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tomonomics 05-24-2014 11:12 AM

Formula 1 documentary - NBCSN tonight
 
Just an FYI - tonight on NBC Sports Net at 8PM they are showing the '1' documentary, a very good (IMO) documentary that was discussed here a while back.

Also tomorrow AM the Monaco GP is on NBC at 7:30 AM EDT. They are repeating this mornings qualifying sessions this afternoon as well.

The weather in the northeast has been spotty, so I'm looking forward to some F1 Cars and Coffee tomorrow AM.

Enjoy the Memorial day weekend, and my thanks to any servicemen/women that are on this board.

-Tom

Nine8Six 05-24-2014 02:09 PM

I was hooked up on the qualifications this afternoon. One thing for sure, this new car is horribly fast. Much faster than any previous f1 prototypes. Maybe because Monaco makes it looks twice faster dunno but only judging from those newly added onboard cams I'm actually surprised they can drive these cars (jets?) out of the corners

wroom for real wroom freaks lol

BIGJake111 05-24-2014 03:44 PM

Also check out /drive the YouTube auto show managed a tv spot, idk if they have a season or if this is a test pilot but it airs at 10:30 on the same channel. I caught the first airing after qualifying this morning, it was really good, a bit awkward at times being their first time on tv, but worth a watch

Tucker2 05-24-2014 09:18 PM

Wow. Great documentary. Really an amazing job.

jmatta 05-25-2014 06:34 AM

The documentary was excellent and very moving...it's difficult to think of how many greats were needlessly lost and the brave men, such as Stewart, who demanded changes for the sake of safety. Still no answers on why Senna was taken with the measures that were put in place by then.

Glad I recorded it because I will watch it again, soon.

dbansal 05-25-2014 10:12 AM

anyone have a linky?

jmatta 05-26-2014 05:07 AM

It was aired on NBC Sports Network...check your listings for a re-broadcast.

tomonomics 05-26-2014 06:29 AM

According to the website, it's on NBC sports again on Sun 6/8 9:30PM-12:00AM

Here's the trailer:

First trailer for new F1 documentary 1 - F1 Fanatic

nieuwhzn 05-26-2014 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nine8Six (Post 401945)
I was hooked up on the qualifications this afternoon. One thing for sure, this new car is horribly fast. Much faster than any previous f1 prototypes. Maybe because Monaco makes it looks twice faster dunno but only judging from those newly added onboard cams I'm actually surprised they can drive these cars (jets?) out of the corners

wroom for real wroom freaks lol


Yup, the displacement went down, but this new hybrid turbo works wonders on the torque. I especially enjoyed the fight for second place between Hamilton and Ricciardo at the end of the race. Hamilton is a great driver but he only could keep Ricciardo off his back because his Mercedes was much faster.
I usually don't watch F1 that much but I make an exception for Monaco! Still waiting for F1 to come to New York.

lkchris 05-27-2014 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jmatta (Post 402013)
The documentary was excellent and very moving...it's difficult to think of how many greats were needlessly lost and the brave men, such as Stewart, who demanded changes for the sake of safety. Still no answers on why Senna was taken with the measures that were put in place by then.

Glad I recorded it because I will watch it again, soon.

Senna was speared through his face shield by a piece of his suspension. Not so sure that could be "corrected."

jmatta 05-27-2014 05:18 PM

I "guess" that's the result of the inquiry...still not certain to this day.

N0tt0N 05-31-2014 03:42 PM

Like any good Senna fan I blame Prost

Perfectlap 05-31-2014 05:37 PM

I rented this on Google Play for $4 when it first came out on video. Right about the time Rush was in theaters..not sure if that was a coincidence. This is definitely a movie for the surround sound home theater set up.

If you enjoyed this and have never watched the Quick and the Dead you should check it out. Stacey Keach narrates the documentary with the late François Cevert playing a prominent role right up to his death in Jackie Stewart's last grand prix. Cevert's story is more tragic than Senna's in my opinion because Senna enjoyed a legendary career while Cevert was on the cusp of greatness after being handed the reigns of the team by Stewart at a very young age.

Perfectlap 05-31-2014 05:39 PM

I rented this on Google Play for $4 when it first came out on video. Right about the time Rush was in theaters..not sure if that was a coincidence. This is definitely a movie for the surround sound home theater set up.

If you enjoyed this and have never watched the Quick and the Dead you should check it out. Stacey Keach narrates the documentary with the late François Cevert playing a prominent role right up to his death in Jackie Stewart's last grand prix. Cevert's story is more tragic than Senna's in my opinion because Senna enjoyed a legendary career while Cevert was on the cusp of greatness after being handed the reigns of the team by Stewart at a very young age.

tomonomics 06-08-2014 01:54 PM

FYI - the '1' documentary is airing again tonight on NBC Sports.

Perfectlap 06-08-2014 05:24 PM

Another good one: "weekend of a Champion" on Google Play.
The infamous Roman Polanski follows Jackie Stewart at the 1971 Mónaco GP.
A sort of reality show for the 1970's.

TeamOxford 06-09-2014 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Perfectlap (Post 404740)
Another good one: "weekend of a Champion" on Google Play. The infamous Roman Polanski follows Jackie Stewart at the 1971 Mónaco GP.

This "reality show" is also available in its entirety, for free viewing, on YouTube. More of a Stewart ego trip than anything else, when Jackie was THE driver from 1970 to his retirement in 1973.

If you don't believe me, just ask him. :rolleyes:

Just sayin'...........

TO

coreseller 06-09-2014 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TeamOxford (Post 404916)
This "reality show" is also available in its entirety, for free viewing, on YouTube. More of a Stewart ego trip than anything else, when Jackie was THE driver from 1970 to his retirement in 1973.

If you don't believe me, just ask him. :rolleyes:

Just sayin'...........

TO

Couldn't agree more. Stewart without a doubt was the man back then but infallible arrogance imo overshadowed some of the more becoming traits.

BTW TO...."Just Sayin"...sounds like one of my kids typical responses lol

Perfectlap 06-09-2014 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamOxford (Post 404916)
This "reality show" is also available in its entirety, for free viewing, on YouTube. More of a Stewart ego trip than anything else, when Jackie was THE driver from 1970 to his retirement in 1973.

If you don't believe me, just ask him. :rolleyes:

Just sayin'...........

TO

F1 drivers of his era had a near 70% of being dead within 5 years.

That's not the sort of terrain that a person with low self-esteem is going to cut it in.

If you found a racing driver with that level of super human talent, in an era when GP cars weren't doing any of the driving for you whatsoever, against the best and bravest drivers in the world, on tracks that had laughable safety standards, when Bandini and Williamson were both roasted alive during a race, a driver that could stand going to 10 funerals per season during that five year era.... and this person was also a nice guy with a regular sized ego, then I would say your lofty expectations were met.

If I met a guy who pulled all that off, and managed to outlive it all, he could be as big as an arrogant prima donna as he wished. Because the bottom line is this guy could have decided to sell bar-b-q sets at the local hardware store instead.
How many of us would continue with our respective lines of work if we were told we had a 70% of being killed on the job by 2019? Not many...

coreseller 06-09-2014 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Perfectlap (Post 404932)
F1 drivers of his era had a near 70% of being dead within 5 years.

That's not the sort of terrain that a person with low self-esteem is going to cut it in.

If you found a racing driver with that level of super human talent, in an era when GP cars weren't doing any of the driving for you whatsoever, against the best and bravest drivers in the world, on tracks that had laughable safety standards, when Bandini and Williamson were both roasted alive during a race, a driver that could stand going to 10 funerals per season during that five year era.... and this person was also a nice guy with a regular sized ego, then I would say your lofty expectations were met.

If I met a guy who pulled all that off, and managed to outlive it all, he could be as big as an arrogant prima donna as he wished. Because the bottom line is this guy could have decided to sell bar-b-q sets at the local hardware store instead.
How many of us would continue with our respective lines of work if we were told we had a 70% of being killed on the job by 2019? Not many...


Yes, they no doubt had a right to whatever mindset they wanted but don't kid yourself, no one put a gun to their heads telling them to race or else. There were hundreds of other hungry drivers looking to take their positions if offered. Thank God there were drivers like Stewart, Fittipaldi and Lauda to bring sanity to the track.

The driver line-ups ran the spectrum personality wise but Stewart's overt arrogance definitely rose head and shoulders above most drivers' inner confidence levels. Another question; why would he go to Roman Polanski (what a prince of a gentleman :barf:) to make his film?

TeamOxford 06-10-2014 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfectlap (Post 404932)
F1 drivers of his era had a near 70% of being dead within 5 years. That's not the sort of terrain that a person with low self-esteem is going to cut it in.

If you found a racing driver with that level of super human talent, in an era when GP cars weren't doing any of the driving for you whatsoever, against the best and bravest drivers in the world, on tracks that had laughable safety standards, when Bandini and Williamson were both roasted alive during a race, a driver that could stand going to 10 funerals per season during that five year era.... and this person was also a nice guy with a regular sized ego, then I would say your lofty expectations were met.

There is no doubt that F1 drivers have large egos and plenty of self-esteem. It's necessary for them to do what they do. Stewart's ego was so large that it spilled out into virtually every conversation and interview at the time. And that put a lot of people off.

There were PLENTY of World Champions and Grand Prix winners of that era, also with tremendous egos, who kept them in check and showed a great sense of humility. Champions like Clark, Brabham, Hill, Surtees, and Fittipaldi were humble in their victories. Denny Hulme was especially humble.

I think Jackie got caught up with the growing attention F1 racing was getting, the jet set people it attracted, and the glamour that went with it. And he played it to the limit, believe me.

None of this is to detract what a bloody quick driver and worthy Champion he was. He seems to have mellowed somewhat since his retirement, as most drivers do after their racing career ends.

TO

p.s. Just sayin'.......... ;)

Perfectlap 06-10-2014 10:24 AM

^ I agree Hill and the "old school" were from a different era of gentlemen. But as you say they didn't have the level of exposure that came after them. It's a generational thing, that we see with each generation. More attention, more "me".

All that being said, I could never criticize any driver who strapped himself into such rolling coffins. The drivers in F1 when downforce met shockingly unsafe circuits like in the late 60's and 70's are another category of human competitor. Far above any other sport before or since.
If anything I think he's one of the few in F1 who aren't afraid to get into a row with Bernie Ecclestone over Silverstone or whatever. And I really admired had how Sir Jackie was always near his better half unlike so many professional athletes with Tiger Woods type arrangements.

TeamOxford 06-10-2014 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Perfectlap (Post 405063)
^ I agree Hill and the "old school" were from a different era of gentlemen. But as you say they didn't have the level of exposure that came after them.

I never said that. All of the drivers mentioned in my post were Stewart's peers. The "exposure" was the same. Jackie just handled it differently. His ego was more transparent to everyone. Just read his ghost-written book "Faster".

TO

Perfectlap 06-10-2014 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamOxford (Post 405068)
I never said that. All of the drivers mentioned in my post were Stewart's peers. The "exposure" was the same. Jackie just handled it differently. His ego was more transparent to everyone. Just read his ghost-written book "Faster".

TO

what I'm saying is that Stewart wasn't from that era of Graham Hill, Moss, Surtees and Brabham (guys born a decade earlier or more) who generally handled spotlight with a bit less flash and attention getting vs. the guys who came after. And that's continued to be the case, where guys like Clark may be the exception, each generation of grand prix drivers seem to seek more and more attention and recognition.

Maybe Stewart was the start of it, perhaps but he was also part of much more lethal era of racing than those guys before him. Everyone has different coping mechanisms to deal with such human extremes where death becomes a guarantee every few races, unless you've been in those shoes week in and week out I fail to see how anyone can begrudge a guy for doing things in their own way. If we're talking about a golf player or footballer with a very obvious mountain-sized ego that's one thing but we may never see a sport demand so much of human being as we saw in the late 60's and 70's of F1. Maybe other drivers of his era could judge Stewart as less than gracious but that's a very select group of men that earned it.

TeamOxford 06-10-2014 05:03 PM

Geez PL, all I'm saying is what I originally posted:

This "reality show" is also available in its entirety, for free viewing, on YouTube. More of a Stewart ego trip than anything else, when Jackie was THE driver from 1970 to his retirement in 1973.

If you don't believe me, just ask him.


What's up with the mini-novella posts, where one has to search to find a point, or go through some truncated logic to determine what you're actually saying?

Or is it just that you always have to have the last word?

TO

Perfectlap 06-11-2014 08:27 AM

I don't think it was ego trip movie. In fact, it was a 'behind the scenes' format well ahead of its time.

You think six sentences about the greatest era F1 is too ardous?

Let's make it a photos and videos only forum then!

http://www.espnf1.com/PICTURES/CMS/8100/8142.jpg

TeamOxford 06-12-2014 07:32 AM

Sounds good to me.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01/Emmo1402587095.jpg
Fittipaldi, in the wet at Monaco, 1972.

TO

JFP in PA 06-12-2014 09:09 AM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ll-FordP34.jpg

tomonomics 05-23-2015 05:49 AM

Just a bump for those who have not yet seen (and those who want to watch it again).....the "1" F1 documentary is on NBCSports network tonight t 9:00 PM EDT. Set your DVRs for the Monaco Grand Prix which is also tomorrow morning.

-T


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