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pony13ca 04-10-2014 05:58 PM

How much mileage is to much?
 
A buddy of mine hooked me up with a gent selling a 98. It is a beautiful car!! Nicely customized!! But it has 130K!! I'm not planning to sell the car I buy, so I'm not worried to much about resale.
But is 130K to many miles to start my life as a boxster owner. Or does it completely depend on how the car was maintained? He is asking for $7500

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BIGJake111 04-10-2014 06:06 PM

Oh my, that neighborhood, no one knows what a yard is do they. Anyways though as long as you get it for the right price, maybe even cheaper, and are prepared to pay for maintenance then that isn't too bad. Prepare for a second wave of many of the things that go out on these cars earlier on in their life though... if it hasn't had its AOS or Waterpump go out, then it very likely will soon... if either has went out before, depending on how long ago you may be ready to replace one again.... give the car a once over and it may be in better condition than many cars with 70k miles though, back when i was searching for a car there were some with 60k that were worse than ones with 110k. For the price though i do believe you can get a car with closer to 100k miles which is a bit better.

Perfectlap 04-10-2014 06:24 PM

$7500, 130K mile car, driven in winters = better have a long list of previous work done with records to show it.

A Porsche, with that kind of mileage, that you plan to own long-term, that's still on its original shocks, control arms, clutch/IMS/RMS, water pump, coolant tank, AOS, fuel pump, rotors, cats, etc., is a Porsche you'll be fixing.

t2-bxtrs 04-10-2014 06:25 PM

how much mileage is too much
 
Actually 130,000 kilometers isn't that bad considering proper maintenance was done throughout it's life.. a history of maintenance and repairs done would be nice so you can monitor which ones would need immediate attention.
you mentioned customized, that could be a good thing or a detriment if not done properly..
bottom line is, have a ppi done by a qualified technician preferably familiar with Porsches, or Boxster in particular..could also help you make a responsible offer on the car..
Good Luck and Happy Boxstering... Top down weather is upon us, so enjoy your future ride....
t2

Joe B 04-10-2014 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t2-bxtrs (Post 395152)
Actually 130,000 kilometers isn't that bad

130,000 miles=209,000 km.

If the car is in good shape with excellent maintenance and a good price, I'd go for it. $7,500 sounds pretty good.

Perfectlap 04-10-2014 06:38 PM

ah kilometers...

BIGJake111 04-10-2014 06:40 PM

What is on the side of the car.... the side ducts, i cant tell. I would be weary of the mods on this one, as said before some mods are great but some are really bad news.

TeamOxford 04-10-2014 07:40 PM

7500 CDN seems to be sweet for this example, especially with the 18" Carrera wheels.

Perfectlap raises some excellent points; and the maintenance he describes should be checked against the owners records, along with a PPI.

Other than that, it appears to be a good deal.

On a side note................Jake......not meaning to bust your stones or anything, but you REALLY have to work on your posts. Maybe run them by your English teacher, perhaps.........?

Just sayin'.............

TO

Crono0001 04-10-2014 07:45 PM

I think this car is equipped with those side vent stickers we like to laugh at...

... and just from that, I'm going to say no.

pony13ca 04-11-2014 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crono0001 (Post 395162)
I think this car is equipped with those side vent stickers we like to laugh at...

... and just from that, I'm going to say no.

Side vent stickers? I have never heard of them? Why would you put stickers on your Porsche?

Eric G 04-11-2014 05:49 AM

To make the car look like the newer models. If those are the stickers that can be an good insight into the owners view of the car. If you really are at 209,000 miles your car is going to need a lot of work as there are considerable number of parts that are simply old and need to be replaced not to mention the wear parts. Walk away from this car and keep looking unless you are willing to spend sometime wrenching on the car. There are other lower mileage cars out there.

tomc88 04-11-2014 05:55 AM

kph = the measurement of science
mph = legacy of ancient times

Mark_T 04-11-2014 06:49 AM

Can we see some more pics and maybe a list of mods? Is that 130 miles or km? Again, remember that prices on these cars are quite a bit higher in Canada than the US. I wouldn't be so quick to write this car off. It could be a great deal for someone that can do their own work.

But yeah, the fake 987 intake stickers have got to go.

ekam 04-11-2014 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TeamOxford (Post 395161)
7500 CDN seems to be sweet for this example, especially with the 18" Carrera wheels.

Those look like 19"s Carrera Classic wheels.

http://www.****************************************************.com/product/9987CCs.html?Category_Code=987wheels

Trey T 04-11-2014 07:46 AM

these days, 130K miles for 1998 model is super low mileage. What makes these porsche different than other car is the high level of maintenance; you have to check the car more often.
Quote:

Originally Posted by pony13ca (Post 395147)
A buddy of mine hooked me up with a gent selling a 98. It is a beautiful car!! Nicely customized!! But it has 130K!! I'm not planning to sell the car I buy, so I'm not worried to much about resale.
But is 130K to many miles to start my life as a boxster owner. Or does it completely depend on how the car was maintained? He is asking for $7500

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LoL... I think he's doing pretty good compare to tons of other people that can't get these words right:

then, than
your, you're
their, they're, there
to, too


That's when you have really f*cked-up grammar!
Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamOxford (Post 395161)
...

On a side note................Jake......not meaning to bust your stones or anything, but you REALLY have to work on your posts. Maybe run them by your English teacher, perhaps.........?

Just sayin'.............

TO


runjmc2 04-11-2014 10:35 AM

Miles is certainly not the best indicator, but I would consider 130K mi as high mileage and given other options would avoid it. If you can hook it up to a durametric you can see how many hours and overrevs. This can be done without using one of the 3 VINs....e.g. if you know someone with one they can tell you without a "cost."

When I read between the lines on the comments made by the experts and the FACT that Porsche agreed to a limit of 130,000 miles in the IMS settlement, I believe the general life expectancy of a Boxster engine is around 130,000 miles.

I'm sure everyone will jump on this statement and tell the story of the one with 200,000, 250,000, and 300,000+ miles but if you are playing the odds, I believe 130,000 miles is a good figure for average engine life expectancy. To me it's like average life expectancy. If it's 78, someone will tell you about the lady that is 110...but I'm not betting on living to 110.

If the price is right, I would go in knowing it is likely a year or two car (assuming you drive it) and then either it's a roller to see or a project to ad your next engine into

cfos 04-11-2014 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGJake111 (Post 395148)
Oh my, that neighborhood, no one knows what a yard is do they.

Spoken like a teen that has yet to sign their name to a lease... :confused:

Can't wait to see your first pics of your car in a place of "your" own. :p

BIGJake111 04-11-2014 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfos (Post 395295)
Spoken like a teen that has yet to sign their name to a lease... :confused:

Can't wait to see your first pics of your car in a place of "your" own. :p

Listen my trailer will be on a large plot of land :p. The issue is with the way they build them, neighborhoods were not always slab houses right next to each other for miles haha.

Porsche9 04-11-2014 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by runjmc2 (Post 395251)
Miles is certainly not the best indicator, but I would consider 130K mi as high mileage and given other options would avoid it. If you can hook it up to a durametric you can see how many hours and overrevs. This can be done without using one of the 3 VINs....e.g. if you know someone with one they can tell you without a "cost."

When I read between the lines on the comments made by the experts and the FACT that Porsche agreed to a limit of 130,000 miles in the IMS settlement, I believe the general life expectancy of a Boxster engine is around 130,000 miles.

I'm sure everyone will jump on this statement and tell the story of the one with 200,000, 250,000, and 300,000+ miles but if you are playing the odds, I believe 130,000 miles is a good figure for average engine life expectancy. To me it's like average life expectancy. If it's 78, someone will tell you about the lady that is 110...but I'm not betting on living to 110.

If the price is right, I would go in knowing it is likely a year or two car (assuming you drive it) and then either it's a roller to see or a project to ad your next engine into

It's km not miles. Basically it has a little over 80k miles.

pony13ca 04-11-2014 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porsche9 (Post 395299)
It's km not miles. Basically it has a little over 80k miles.

No, it has 130,000 miles on it. Around 209,000 KM. If it was 80 miles, It would probably be in my driveway now.

cfos 04-11-2014 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGJake111 (Post 395298)
Listen my trailer will be on a large plot of land :p. The issue is with the way they build them, neighborhoods were not always slab houses right next to each other for miles haha.

Yeah, your right. Why, just the other day I heard about this mythical place call Manhattan.

http://s2.djyimg.com/n3/eet-content/...+Hill_4656.jpg

Surely, it doesn't exist and is nothing more than a ghost town or a movie set made of plywood.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/wp-cont...02/shirley.jpg

BIGJake111 04-11-2014 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfos (Post 395302)
Yeah, your right. Why, just the other day I heard about this mythical place call Manhattan.

http://s2.djyimg.com/n3/eet-content/...+Hill_4656.jpg

It is Canada, not Long Island... They have room.

cfos 04-11-2014 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGJake111 (Post 395303)
It is Canada, not Long Island... They have room.

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Uh... Manhattan isn't Long Island either... Out of curiosity, maybe you can answer this -- I heard about a study that said that the less that Americans knew about the location of the Ukraine, the more they want the US to intervene (attack). Why do people like (you?) that feel that way?

;)

BIGJake111 04-11-2014 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfos (Post 395307)
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Uh... Manhattan isn't Long Island either... Out of curiosity, maybe you can answer this -- I heard about a study that said that the less that Americans knew about the location of the Ukraine, the more they want the US to intervene (attack). Why do people like (you?) that feel that way?

;)

Im totally on Russia's side actually, i mean the people want to be Russian so why should we intervene. Some would argue it is appeasement like with Hitler and Poland, but i do not imagine Russia going any further than Crimera.

Porsche9 04-11-2014 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGJake111 (Post 395310)
Im totally on Russia's side actually, i mean the people want to be Russian so why should we intervene. Some would argue it is appeasement like with Hitler and Poland, but i do not imagine Russia going any further than Crimera.

That's funny.

Timco 04-11-2014 08:49 PM

Bought at 119k. Now have 132k. MILES. Runs perfect. Great car. No regrets.

Russia must be stopped. We are supposed to be protecting Ukraine.

recycledsixtie 04-12-2014 05:07 AM

1. This is a car forum not a political forum.
2. Big Jake your comments about somebody else's yard is tacky. Not everybody wants or can afford a big yard.
3. The less miles on a Boxster the better with the exception that some would say the ims bearing is more vulnerable with low miles in an older car.
G.:)

Timco 04-12-2014 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by recycledsixtie (Post 395340)
1. This is a car forum not a political forum.
2. Big Jake your comments about somebody else's yard is tacky. Not everybody wants or can afford a big yard.
3. The less miles on a Boxster the better with the exception that some would say the ims bearing is more vulnerable with low miles in an older car.
G.:)

1...So what if other topics are discussed in GD. No moderator I have ever seen here has requested we stick to Boxster or Porsche topics. Should I request my smart car tipping thread be locked? What about JD not being JD anymore? I have never minded going off topic here and there. Refreshing conversation, actually. I have less time for internet police who want a pic of a gun pulled, or OT threads locked, or any OT comment censored. Just don't read or comment on those posts.

2...Gotta agree. If he rents his first place (an apartment) with his very own wages from the beginning with nothing more than a fridge of food from his parents (which I was damn thankful to get) then I will be impressed. I grew up somewhat poor, but we had a house & small yard. To each their own and I really do hope they get what they want for Christmas...Several apartments gone by before I had a yard. (Isn't this off topic?)

3...The less miles, the better on ANY car. These cars run fine at higher mileage, as long as the regular maint was done.

BIGJake111 04-12-2014 06:22 AM

Agreed on not minding other topics, and again I have no issue with the person who owns the house (aside from the air vent stickers) I just find it applying that builders and contractors build these neighborhoods like this, it has nothing to do with price, there are many new developments in my area with 500k and up homes and the market here in the south is cheap, these homes would be much more elsewhere. But the point is the builders and contractors still build them right on top of each other and even in these much more expensive cases, on slabs. My problem has nothing to do with the finance situation of a small yard and such because finances honestly doesn't govern it. I am not insulting the owners choice of home either, I just don't see why they build them like that.


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Nine8Six 04-12-2014 07:40 AM

OP

Congrats on your new acquisition in advance, if you ever decide to go for it.

Changing pretty much everything on that little roadster to make it worthwhile is less than 10k (new full suspension kit, brakes, tires, rods, wheel bearings, complete engine tune-up, coolant reservoir and an AOS). You still got a "Porsche Car" for less than 20k ;)

Can't wait to see pics and read your first rides' comments. Great little car, have fun mate

rp17 04-12-2014 07:43 AM

Back on topic.....I think there is nothing wrong with a high mileage car. The lower the miles better but as long as the maintenance has been kept up, it should be fine.

What does concern me with high mileage cars is the suspension. Check to see if it was recently replaced or budget for it. I would rather have worn seats over a worn out suspension. Both can be fixed ofcourse.

Jamesp 04-12-2014 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGJake111 (Post 395310)
Im totally on Russia's side actually, i mean the people want to be Russian so why should we intervene. Some would argue it is appeasement like with Hitler and Poland, but i do not imagine Russia going any further than Crimera.

Jake, You need to study a little history, what you are fishing for here is "anschluss" with Austria. BTW Putin used the same racial arguments Hitler did. Nothing like going with a tried and true plan. Appeasement ended with Poland, and then tens of millions of folks died in WW2. Mostly without nukes. We can beat that today in a couple of hours. Putin certainly would go further than Crimea given the chance. He wants the buffer states back that Russia lost around the time you were born.

Jamesp 04-12-2014 01:58 PM

Whoops - +1 on the thoughts below that you can expect increased maintenance on a high mileage car, but going in eyes wide open, and doing the maintenance a high mileage car should be fine. Also the for the boogeyman IMSB, just plan to get it changed.

BIGJake111 04-12-2014 02:06 PM

For me, we have no business in it until they step on our soil or threaten one of our lives. Opposing opinions are always welcome and I take it as an opertunity to learn


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Jamesp 04-12-2014 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGJake111 (Post 395401)
For me, we have no business in it until they step on our soil or threaten one of our lives. Opposing opinions are always welcome and I take it as an opertunity to learn


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Look up isolationism, and see where that got us. It's best (though hardest politically) to stop dictators like Putin early on. That lesson was hard learned and we should remember it.

Jamesp 04-12-2014 02:11 PM

And be sure to check the tires of any high mileage car for dry rot.

Timco 04-12-2014 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGJake111 (Post 395401)
For me, we have no business in it until they step on our soil or threaten one of our lives. Opposing opinions are always welcome and I take it as an opertunity to learn


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Did you just say opertunity?

Jamesp 04-12-2014 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timco (Post 395414)
Did you just say opertunity?

It'a a southern thing...

pony13ca 04-12-2014 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamesp (Post 395400)
Whoops - +1 on the thoughts below that you can expect increased maintenance on a high mileage car, but going in eyes wide open, and doing the maintenance a high mileage car should be fine. Also the for the boogeyman IMSB, just plan to get it changed.

At this price, the car would go in for clutch and IMS before I had gone 50 Kilometers. And I would still have money left for an emergency fund.

BIGJake111 04-12-2014 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pony13ca (Post 395423)
At this price, the car would go in for clutch and IMS before I had gone 50 Kilometers. And I would still have money left for an emergency fund.

For the price i say PPI and then jump on it!


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