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John Bergen 02-26-2014 03:27 PM

Any suggestions for street tires?
 
My 2000 S may need tires soon. It has the optional 18" turbo twist " Technology" wheels. Any suggested tires to consider? I have used Yokohamas on past cars with good results. Just street use, no tracking. Thanks!

Dlirium 02-26-2014 04:39 PM

Lots of posts on that topic...check some of those out..

steved0x 02-26-2014 05:32 PM

I've got a thread going in the perf section, but it is for street and track use, so we are talking about max and extreme perf summer tires.

I'm not sure where in CA you are, but if it is in a year round warm part of CA and you don't anticipate any cold weather driving, summer tires might be the best, and give you the grip for occasional spirited driving.

I have the Sumitomo htr z iii, a max perf summer tire, and I like them, but I am stepping up as they are almost worn out and I am doing more autox and track days.

Check tirerack.com, clear out the categories you don't want, and then check out some of tire rack's test results and reviews.

If I wasn't doing track days I would probably stay with the sumis �� They have good reviews on tire rack.. and did I mention they are (relatively) inexpensive ��

Fintro11 02-26-2014 05:44 PM

Michelin Super Sports, not too high of cost , amazing dry / amazing wet and they have amazing tread wear

Topless 02-26-2014 05:44 PM

Lots of choices. Just depends on what you want from your tires.
Dry grip
Wet grip
quiet ride
ride stiffness
cold weather use
track days
longevity
price

black_box 02-27-2014 05:03 AM

The Michelin PSSs are very very good while in good condition, HOWEVER, once they wear down they can become downright dangerous in wet conditions. I burned up a pair of rears in 6k miles (street with a tiny bit of track). Fortunately, michelin and tire rack actually honor their treadwear warranties.

kodabear 02-27-2014 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by John Bergen (Post 388623)
My 2000 S may need tires soon. It has the optional 18" turbo twist " Technology" wheels. Any suggested tires to consider? I have used Yokohamas on past cars with good results. Just street use, no tracking. Thanks!

Its taken me a long time to realize this but the honest truth is that for street only use you really should not be driving such that you'd ever need sticky tires, unless of course you want to end up like Paul Walker. My recommendation is to find the proper speed rated tires in the proper sizes with reasonable tread wear >=300. All buying sticky low wear tire accomplishes is having to buy another set real soon and more $ for the tire guys. It's a money making scam as far as I'm concerned.

If your looking for dual use tires, that's a different story.

jb92563 02-27-2014 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by kodabear (Post 388670)
Its taken me a long time to realize this but the honest truth is that for street only use you really should not be driving such that you'd ever need sticky tires, unless of course you want to end up like Paul Walker. My recommendation is to find the proper speed rated tires in the proper sizes with reasonable tread wear >=300. All buying sticky low wear tire accomplishes is having to buy another set real soon and more $ for the tire guys. It's a money making scam as far as I'm concerned.

If your looking for dual use tires, that's a different story.

No Sticky tires for street use, whats the fun in that?

Even for safety sake on the street the extra traction could not hurt, but since most of us bought a Sports Car, its likely that we will drive in a spirited fashion now and then.

I have been using the Hankook V12's for daily use and a few auto crosses and I have discovered that it has excellent wet performance as well.

The treads have held up for 2 years now and still may have another year in them for daily use.

In retrospect I'd like even more stickiness for Auto-X and am thinking about the Hankook RS-3 for next time.

RaisedOnPorsches 02-27-2014 07:12 AM

I'd had good experiences with Sumitomo HRT Z-III tires for street use on a 2.5l Boxster.

Dave S. 02-27-2014 08:23 AM

I'm going with the Continental Extreme Contact DWS All Seasons this time. A friend of mine put them on his 993 a few years ago and they still look like new and handle well.
I only drive my car in summer, never track it, and I live in the mountains of Colorado, where you can get snow in any month of the year, so I prefer to have an all season tire.

Deserion 02-27-2014 08:49 AM

I have the Hankook Ventus V12 Evo on mine, and they're working out very well. Previously had Michelin Pilot Sport A/S on there (also satisfied).

eicheldp 02-27-2014 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave S. (Post 388689)
I'm going with the Continental Extreme Contact DWS All Seasons this time. A friend of mine put them on his 993 a few years ago and they still look like new and handle well.
I only drive my car in summer, never track it, and I live in the mountains of Colorado, where you can get snow in any month of the year, so I prefer to have an all season tire.

I have the DWS's on my daily driver and am not impressed with the tread wear. I travel 100 miles RT of highway driving on the toll way and my first set went bald after 20,000 miles. My dealer rotated the tires every 5000 miles and performed an alignment at installation.

Offered me a new set @ 40% off and now I have 4/10 tread depth after 22,000 miles. I may not be going back to these since they are supposed to have a 50,000 mile warranty.

Looking at Michelin Pilot Sport A/S3 for the 04 Boxster S. Have the same tread as the PSS, tirerack has them rated close to the performance of the PSS and they have a 50,000 mile warranty. Also less expensive than the PSS. :)

Topless 02-27-2014 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by eicheldp (Post 388696)
I have the DWS's on my daily driver and am not impressed with the tread wear. I travel 100 miles RT of highway driving on the toll way and my first set went bald after 20,000 miles. My dealer rotated the tires every 5000 miles and performed an alignment at installation.

Offered me a new set @ 40% off and now I have 4/10 tread depth after 22,000 miles. I may not be going back to these since they are supposed to have a 50,000 mile warranty.

Looking at Michelin Pilot Sport A/S3 for the 04 Boxster S. Have the same tread as the PSS, tirerack has them rated close to the performance of the PSS and they have a 50,000 mile warranty. Also less expensive than the PSS. :)

Hmmm, I'd say 20k miles on a set of Boxster rears is outstanding treadwear. I usually get about 5k on the rears. Different tire choices for different reasons.

:cheers:

kodabear 02-27-2014 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jb92563 (Post 388675)
No Sticky tires for street use, whats the fun in that?

Even for safety sake on the street the extra traction could not hurt, but since most of us bought a Sports Car, its likely that we will drive in a spirited fashion now and then.

Michelen sport pilots have a 300 wear rating and are plenty sticky for any street use. If you need the extra traction for "safety" you are driving over your head.

As far as "fun" can't answer that as I have not had fun driving "fast"in street cars for years' there, because frankly all street cars are dog slow. .. But then I have a racecar that pulls close to 3gs and can lap laguna seca faster than any porsche ever built has except for 3... 962, rs spyder, and gt1. So my perspective on fast is vastly different from most

eicheldp 02-27-2014 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topless (Post 388726)
Hmmm, I'd say 20k miles on a set of Boxster rears is outstanding treadwear. I usually get about 5k on the rears. Different tire choices for different reasons.

:cheers:

Topless,
The 20,000 miles was on my Hyundai Sonata. :o That's my DD. Just bought the Boxster in Late October. The Boxster has the original Yoko's on it from 2004 with 16,000 miles.

LAP1DOUG 02-27-2014 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kodabear (Post 388727)
Michelen sport pilots have a 300 wear rating and are plenty sticky for any street use. If you need the extra traction for "safety" you are driving over your head.

As far as "fun" can't answer that as I have not had fun driving "fast"in street cars for years' there, because frankly all street cars are dog slow. .. But then I have a racecar that pulls close to 3gs and can lap laguna seca faster than any porsche ever built has except for 3... 962, rs spyder, and gt1. So my perspective on fast is vastly different from most

I generally agree with Koda, with decent tires and suspension, there is no curve on the street that will truly challenge a well driven 986 at any sane street speed. So, get some kid of decent Michelins, or BFG's and just enjoy the ride and the long tire life. But, if you want to ever auto-x or track, you need an entirely different level to be competitive.

Hey Koda, that looks like a Van Diemen FC in your avatar. I can't believe the excellent values available on these now. I'm an old S2000 guy, but they have gone out of sight, so I'm starting to look for an RF92+. Any suggestions?

BYprodriver 02-27-2014 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kodabear (Post 388670)
Its taken me a long time to realize this but the honest truth is that for street only use you really should not be driving such that you'd ever need sticky tires, unless of course you want to end up like Paul Walker. My recommendation is to find the proper speed rated tires in the proper sizes with reasonable tread wear >=300. All buying sticky low wear tire accomplishes is having to buy another set real soon and more $ for the tire guys. It's a money making scam as far as I'm concerned.

If your looking for dual use tires, that's a different story.

If the sticky tire's superior collision avoidance benefits allow you to prevent 1 collision they have more than paid for themselves!

silverboxter 02-27-2014 06:12 PM

Tires
 
i prefer Bridgestone Potenza. They came on my used 2001 base box. It had 62k miles when i got it. it now has 175k miles.

i'm on my third set on the rear.

but get this...i'm still running the original pair on the front! they still look and perform fine. i can't believe they have 110k miles!!

they're W-rated, assymetrical and look great.

murphy986 02-27-2014 06:49 PM

I've got the Hankook V12's. Nice for the price! Run much better when hot.

John Bergen 02-27-2014 08:43 PM

Thanks for the good info folks!

kk2002s 02-28-2014 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaisedOnPorsches (Post 388680)
I'd had good experiences with Sumitomo HRT Z-III tires for street use on a 2.5l Boxster.

+1
They came with my car, apparently relatively new. I've put 15k miles on them, they are still in excellent shape. I will be taking them through to Fall. So that should be about 20-22k for me. Then I am in the same boat looking for tires. It will be an all season next.
I even drive them in the winter. I know No No. Never had any dry road traction issues even in single digits. They have be very good in rain
I've driven in snow with them and that is definitely not their purpose.

These are price friendly, good gripping fairly long lasting Summer Tires

mikesz 02-28-2014 05:13 AM

I too bought a set of Sumitomo HRT Z-III from Tire Rack. So far so good. Of course only had the car 1 year and drive it on the weekends.

Slate 01 02-28-2014 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silverboxter (Post 388809)
i prefer Bridgestone Potenza. They came on my used 2001 base box. It had 62k miles when i got it. it now has 175k miles.

i'm on my third set on the rear.

but get this...i'm still running the original pair on the front! they still look and perform fine. i can't believe they have 110k miles!!

they're W-rated, assymetrical and look great.

Wow I am amazed to hear that, I had those tires on a 350Z and thought they were the loudest tires, after 1k miles, I'd ever had on a car. I'd never consider buying those tires again. Glad you like them.

Rob175 02-28-2014 06:15 AM

I too have the Hankook Ventus V12 and I'm very happy with them (and the great price)....

ekam 02-28-2014 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BYprodriver (Post 388806)
If the sticky tire's superior collision avoidance benefits allow you to prevent 1 collision they have more than paid for themselves!

Beside sticky tires is the only form of upgrade that will improve on all performance aspects of a vehicle - corner speed, braking distance, acceleration, etc etc etc.

And it's fun to play frogger. :dance:

BugsFerBrains 02-28-2014 01:38 PM

I just put on Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3 on all 4 corners.
We'll be driving all street, supposed to be good in the wet.

st600r 10-09-2014 07:28 PM

I need tire suggestions
 
Hey TOPLESS you mentioned 5K miles on rears. Can you elaborate. I just went 4K on some really crummy Falken tires. When I bought my car (986) it had Hankook evo V12's which seemed to wear quite well (some where around 23K on the back tires).

I need tire suggestions for decent grip, no winter or snow use, fair amount of rain. I use 235/35-19 fronts & 265/30-19 rears.

Any help would be appreciated. Don't want to buy tires every 4k miles.

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Coaster 10-10-2014 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by black_box (Post 388669)
The Michelin PSSs are very very good while in good condition, HOWEVER, once they wear down they can become downright dangerous in wet conditions.

This is my experience with the PSSs also.

JayG 10-10-2014 02:20 PM

Hankook Ventus V12 evo2

I put a set on a couple of weeks ago and love them
Great dry and wet performance and 320 treadwear.
Probably slightly less performance that the Bridgestone SE-02 that were on the car before, but they only lasted around 8k

Ended up costing me out the door mounted and balanced including tax $750

Check Tire rack as well.

Perfectlap 10-10-2014 02:36 PM

I like my RE-11. It's the stickiest tire I've had since running an R-compound but not as rough on the drive-train.
Pretty quiet, good in rain (I'm a stickler for that), and good wear although I run a winter tire half the year so maybe that's partly why.
I'm not sure what the latest iteration of the RE-11 is now.

Don't be a chiseler on two things: tires and oil. one saves your neck the other your costly engine.

san rensho 10-11-2014 02:50 PM

My Hankook Ventus v 12s have 17k miles and after measuring the tread, I should get at least 5k more miles out of them. Great grip and when they break away, they do so gently and predictably.

When I drive, I go fast and hard around corners and I don't spare the throttle, but I am very easy on the brakes. I try to anticipate traffic so I can just coast rather than have to brake, unless of course, I'm late braking after getting off an exit ramp at 100 mph.

JayG 10-11-2014 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by san rensho (Post 421365)
My Hankook Ventus v 12s have 17k miles and after measuring the tread, I should get at least 5k more miles out of them. Great grip and when they break away, they do so gently and predictably.

When I drive, I go fast and hard around corners and I don't spare the throttle, but I am very easy on the brakes. I try to anticipate traffic so I can just coast rather than have to brake, unless of course, I'm late braking after getting off an exit ramp at 100 mph.

I am seeing similar performance as well, sticky and very predictable. Mine are the new version, so they have even higher tread life. The older ones I believe were 280.,

Time will tell


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