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TxAgs986 02-01-2014 09:17 PM

Bypassing MOST system
 
Ok guys, trying to get some ideas. I've been looking all over various forums but can't seem to find what I want.

First - I have an 04 anniversary edition, so I don't wat to make any changes that can't be undone. I want to be able to put all stock gear back in if I decide to sell it.

2nd - I have the MOST system with Bose.

I'm trying to find anyone that might have put in a new system. What I am considering is installing a new head unit, amp and new speakers. I will leave all fiber optic links in place and I plan to use the speaker cable already in place.

I really need a head unit that can play my iPod and charge it. I already have a new Pioneer media player, and I would love to make it work. I did see some photos of a car with mini amplifiers installed near the battery, but I can't seem to find them again.

Any thoughts?

Thanks!

Jason

Timco 02-02-2014 04:07 AM

I have same car, Bose premium sound system. Had a new amp and Alpine installed, connects with Bluetooth. Sounds fantastic, using stock speaks and the subwoofer box made for the car. Since it's FO, that is all abandoned and new wires from head to amp are needed. Then from amp out, same wires. New amp goes where old amp was. I was not concerned with making stereo back to stock but saved the Cd holder, radio, and amp in case next guy wants it. They had one hell of a time getting the engine noise out of it, said these cars are tough to get the engine noise filtered out without putting filters on the channels which takes sound away.

TxAgs986 02-02-2014 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Timco (Post 384250)
I have same car, Bose premium sound system. Had a new amp and Alpine installed, connects with Bluetooth. Sounds fantastic, using stock speaks and the subwoofer box made for the car.

So, how did they deal with the low impedance of the Bose speakers? Specifically, the subs?

Timco 02-02-2014 06:10 AM

Gosh, over my head. I'll post a pic of amp and one other new devise they added.

What I can say is the sub box is controlled by the subwoofer settings in the head, and can easily thump to where it rattles more than I can stand. It gets loud!!

TxAgs986 02-02-2014 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Timco (Post 384265)
Gosh, over my head. I'll post a pic of amp and one other new devise they added.

What I can say is the sub box is controlled by the subwoofer settings in the head, and can easily thump to where it rattles more than I can stand. It gets loud!!

Any photos would be greatly appreciated!

Timco 02-02-2014 01:22 PM

http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/a...pstptfdffr.jpg

http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/a...psm2e1lnly.jpg

No comments on the dust, please. Gotta detail the trunks!!

I'll take an interior in a few when I'm out there.

TxAgs986 02-02-2014 08:21 PM

Thanks a ton!

TxAgs986 02-03-2014 06:54 AM

Timco,

Is that 2 amps? I completely get the big rockford amp. What's the little guy?

Thanks!

danch 02-09-2014 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Timco (Post 384335)
http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/a...pstptfdffr.jpg

http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/a...psm2e1lnly.jpg

No comments on the dust, please. Gotta detail the trunks!!

I'll take an interior in a few when I'm out there.

Sorry to jump in Timco, what model is that amp & have you any closer pictures of the smaller device (terminals) ?

Looking to bypass the MOST system & put a new head unit in with all the modern needs

Thanks

Dan

TxAgs986 02-10-2014 05:32 PM

Making good progress!

Removed all hardware and left wiring in place. I chose a media player HU which leaves a ton of space to leave wiring in dash.

I chose a 5ch Alpine amp. Next challenge will be to figure out crossovers. I'll post a write up when I'm finished.

rp17 02-12-2014 09:24 PM

Following this thread guys. Still debating if its worth all the trouble to remove this system. My radio is fine, but who listens to the radio? Ipod and cellphone hook up is what I'm after. Best option I came across was sending your radio to becker to have the cable wired nto the back. Right now I'm just listening to the exhaust.

Heard from others that the latest FM modulators are better now. Back up camera and a 7inch screen would be nice though.

TxAgs986 02-13-2014 04:17 AM

It is definitely worth it so far. I got dash speakers and door speakers hooked up yesterday. It sounds so much better.

I suggest getting a good 5 channel amp. On the Alpine V70, there are crossovers for each pair of channels. So, I can tune the speakers a bit more.

I'm going to do a bit of a longer write up on this project soon.

danch 02-13-2014 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TxAgs986 (Post 386345)
It is definitely worth it so far. I got dash speakers and door speakers hooked up yesterday. It sounds so much better.

I suggest getting a good 5 channel amp. On the Alpine V70, there are crossovers for each pair of channels. So, I can tune the speakers a bit more.

I'm going to do a bit of a longer write up on this project soon.

Hi how are you assigning the 5 channels & do you have the rear bose setup,

Are you running the door subs & rear subs off the same channel ?

Ta

Dan

eicheldp 02-13-2014 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rp17 (Post 386316)
Following this thread guys. Still debating if its worth all the trouble to remove this system. My radio is fine, but who listens to the radio? Ipod and cellphone hook up is what I'm after. Best option I came across was sending your radio to becker to have the cable wired nto the back. Right now I'm just listening to the exhaust.

Heard from others that the latest FM modulators are better now. Back up camera and a 7inch screen would be nice though.

Check out Pedro's garage. He's now offering a Blue Tooth application for steaming music and hands free telephone.

I am not affiliated in any way.

dghii 02-13-2014 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rp17 (Post 386316)
Following this thread guys. Still debating if its worth all the trouble to remove this system. My radio is fine, but who listens to the radio? Ipod and cellphone hook up is what I'm after. Best option I came across was sending your radio to becker to have the cable wired nto the back. Right now I'm just listening to the exhaust.

Heard from others that the latest FM modulators are better now. Back up camera and a 7inch screen would be nice though.

Better make sure about sending your radio to Becker. I researched this and they tap into the phone input for the radio...your input will not be stereo. If I can find the thread again I'll post it.

I'm going to go one of two ways on my 2003S with Bose.
1. Replace HU and amp
or
2. Try the Sccosche adapter that connects into the antenna. Its a modulator but its also a direct connection so there is no problem with any adjacent radio stations.

Given that Bluetooth audio is not CD quality (although I love the wireless connectivity), the Scosche may not be a bad compromise. Also, I'm confident I will be able to connect a bluetooth receiver to the Scosche adapter and achieve wireless connectivity with the Bose system.

eicheldp 02-13-2014 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dghii (Post 386381)
2. Try the Sccosche adapter that connects into the antenna. Its a modulator but its also a direct connection so there is no problem with any adjacent radio stations.

Given that Bluetooth audio is not CD quality (although I love the wireless connectivity), the Scosche may not be a bad compromise. Also, I'm confident I will be able to connect a bluetooth receiver to the Scosche adapter and achieve wireless connectivity with the Bose system.

Let us know if you go this route, I'll be interested to see your results.

danch 02-13-2014 09:34 AM

I've gone route 1 & have a Pioneer double din unit on the way with the eurospeed facia kit, just trying to find info on which amp & how set it up, hopefully get it started next Thursday ;)



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TxAgs986 02-14-2014 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danch (Post 386346)
Hi how are you assigning the 5 channels & do you have the rear bose setup,

Are you running the door subs & rear subs off the same channel ?

Ta

Dan

Dan,

I have done the following- dash speakers are routed to front, door speakers are routed to rear, the sub is routed the sub. The only weird part was routing the little rear speakers in the enclosure to the dash. I did this to utilize the crossover. These speakers are tied together so I ran in bridged mode across ch1 and ch2.

Now I just need to learn more about tuning this crossover.

Jason


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