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I can't find that comment on the tapatalk app. Not sure if it was deleted but I was trying to say ~20lbs. If I wrote ~200lbs that is definitely a typo lol. The engine cover is 7lbs, sound carpet is like 6lbs and self was another 6lbs. |
Heck. I might have misread the quote. 20lbs sound about right.
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Beat to the punch.
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I think you said YOLO at one point in reference to this engine cover. Just for that, I think I'm required to order 10 minimum.
When we waited in Taco Bell drive through line, the cover warmed up, BUT it wasn't hot. The thermometer readings will put this concern to rest. The sound increased, because the heavy sound and heat damping carpet was removed. The sound level equivalent would be to remove the rear shelf and remove the carpet cover while leaving the engine hatch cover sealed. Shehadehd's engine cover seals the compartment just like the oem hatch cover. Would your kit come with the lights? I need me some of those Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
I have started saving money for a slightly larger project on my boxster, I think I found a Winner! Keep us updated on the temps, living in the Deep South with lots of expected city traffic may be a problem haha.
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If you use the tint that you apply yourself then you will have that protective coating as well that you were considering for the engine side. So if I get one of these I'll have to start carrying a feather duster in the trunk as well. Not sure what the guys or wife will make of that when they see feathers in the trunk. I'll just have to tell the guys that the french maid uses it to clean my engine bay and the wife, that its a special surprise :cool: |
Evidently, this is not uncharted territory. I have never heard of it but there are a number of posting on Caymen owners doing this mod with great results. I am guessing they have worked out the material and heat issues. Below is a link to Google Imagines with a number of photos.
https://www.google.com/search?q=cayman+clear+engine+cover&client=firefox-a&hs=DmI&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=FkbdUsrRF M-woQTe24H4Bw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=582 |
Why did I clean my engine?
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Thanks for the input. I'm trying to consider these situations but the weather right now doesn't really have the capability of taxing the plexiglass like you mentioned. One consideration is that the plexiglass does absorb and dissipate heat across its surface fairly efficiently. If I use a heat gun at 235 degrees or a bit hotter, the plexiglass never gets hot enough to form because it spreads the heat out and transfers it to the other side of the glass. As a result, I need to bend the plexiglass in a forming oven that heats the whole thing at once. Lexan is in no doubt a more resilient plastic, I'm looking for both plexiglass and lexan as material sources. if I notice that the plexiglass gets to forming temps after hard drives like track days or A/X, I'll offer the cover in both lexan and plexiglass, depending on wether you plan on tracking with it or just daily driving. I know high temp plexiglass exists which can withstand consistent temperatures near 300 degrees. I haven't found a local supplier of it though. I'll post test results to engine bay temperatures sometime this week or next to give you an idea of how the inside and outside surface of the plexiglass does under about 1 hour commute time with San Francisco/ Bay Area traffic |
Without a doubt, this isn't new. Peeps been doing this on Caymans for a while. So worry not too much about the heat thing. Don't think those can fit a 987 Boxster though and definitely not a 986. I think they were priced ridiculously high also which I never even bothered looking into any further.
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How about a mod with dual payoff?
Heat reflecting gold foil. Makes engine look better & keeps intake air cooler. |
I'm going to start a new thread to track the ordering process for the covers.
Hardware: I've been able to find a source for all the hardware and I have a couple installation procedures that I think are simple, straightforward, and allow you to switch between the regular or clear engine cover without much work. I'll have a couple people test them to find the best one. I'm also working on find a way to offer the bolts and caps in chrome or any specific color that can match your car exterior, no guarantees though :). Seals: I just ordered a bunch of different type of rubber seals intended for high-heat use and I'll be testing which one gives the tightest seal and best noise reduction. Cover: As mentioned earlier, I'm still working on finding the best material to use and still keep costs down. I don't think I'll be going any thicker than quarter inch plastic because forming becomes increasingly difficult. I'm most likely going to offer both lexan and plexiglass covers; lexan will have to be a bit more because it needs to be cut and formed differently. Depending on how much demand there is I may be able to offer cover that are tinted in a particular color. This is only a plexiglass option. The tinting will be built into the plexiglass because I think any film applied might peel off under high temperature conditions. Examples http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1390243360.jpg Shipping: I haven't worked out anything with shipping yet. |
If you want to do some real high temp testing Phoenix is the place. In summer I regularly see temps on the I10 of 135 (ambient in the mid teens plus heat reflecting from the asphalt and all the cars immiting heat). I am sure the engine bay temps exceed anything you will see in the Bay Area. There a reason a number of manufacturers test here. Let me know if you want me to test.
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I'll beta test one for you...and I won't even charge you for it! :D
Seriously, I must have one in clear with multi-color lights (I like to change things up a lot) so hurry it up already! It's been a day or two and I'm sick of waiting :( What's the darn holdup? :D :p |
So sick!!!!! I want one :cheers:
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If the Lexan is warping or melting at the track or if that's a concern, can you use slightly thicker Lexan? |
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Haha, I watched the gif before looking at who it was from... Now it makes sense lol. I've pinpointed a good source for plexiglass and even lexan so tonight I'm going to try and get things together to make a small batch order for the first set of prototypes. Also, I have to do some testing with the LEDs to make sure they work reliably with the engine temps they're subjected to. I'm sure I'm being overly cautious but the last thing I want is for someone to message me saying something failed.
Also, the LEDs are going to be socketed into the rear defroster switch to reduce the amount of wiring needed for the installation. Whoever orders leds can manually wire them to a separate switch if they wanted. I'm also in the process of adding a switcher at the junction where the rear defroster connector is. The goal would be to allow you to plug in both the rear defroster and LEDs into the plug and switch off the defroster or LEDs so that the dash switch will activate one of them or both depending in how you set it up. The motivation for this was to keep power draw to a minimum but still allow you guys to retain defroster capability if needed. This will probably be an optional add on since I don't want to wire the setup if I don't need to, e.g. You have a plastic soft top and no use for the defroster. |
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As long as it seals the compartment like the OEM cover (no fumes or heat inside) and it is "kinda" safe in a car accident... I personally like the blue lighting, but would prefer AMBER just like the interior gauge lights. Just another little idea: How about creating a see through plexi glas cover including a classic 356/911 chrome engine grille...that would be my favorite... ...oh pelicanparts are offering those...cool...hmmm...lets see:rolleyes: |
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These LEDs do continuous RGB coloring. Name it and it will do it. I didn't take a picture with Amber but I have this one. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/21/e7e7e5uz.jpg |
who's going to offer painted manifolds like the custom speedster in the current Excellence mag?
oh, and if you need any cold weather testing....;) |
When you get this working the way you want, I am definitely in on a buy :cheers:
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I am definitely interested in buying this once you have made a final product. I think it would look awesome if you painted the intake manifold or laid some carbon fiber over it. 2 Thumbs up!! |
Just a suggestion - double check the grade of material that you plan to use; there are several grades and the forming temperature (when they start to become pliable) ranges from 185°F to 329°F.
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Uh huh! Look who decided to use the rear defrost plug for power.
I seem to remember a certain someone naysaying the idea all the way home. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Definitely interested in getting one of these when you have the details worked out.
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Ok now that looks spectacular. Love the lights!:dance:
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Great looking addition. A very cool concept indeed.
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So I've made my choice on two distributors for plexiglass and lexan and I'm getting some samples sent for cutting.
I've also located three sources for rubber sealing and I'll be testing each for heat resistance, sound deadening, aesthetics, and to make sure no fumes leak through. The mounting method I'm using now requires you to swap out the OEM clip nuts for a different set that the bolts lock into better. I'm currently looking for a set of bolts that let me keep the original clip nuts without loosening on bumpy roads. It will be at least a week until I get the samples I ordered and possibly a week more before I'm satisfied with the dimensions, seals, and hardware. I'll keep you all updated and probably get a formal count on who is interested so I can send out a batch order of plexiglass or lexan. |
Thanks for the update.
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I have only been a member of this site for a few days and I must say the innovation and expertise are just amazing. I don't know how I wasn't aware of this site previously. I have seen the mod on a Cayman and it looked fantastic.
Great work!! I have done no modifications to my car since buying it new, but I would consider this. Do you know if the storage unit is difficult to remove? I assume this would all be reversible to stock if one decided to go that route for a concours event, correct? |
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Removing the existing cover is easy. Once you done it once you can do it in about 2 minutes (do a search on this forum or Youtube). Having said that this mod is super easy to reverse when it is time to sell the car. Assuming the clear cover is in good shape I sure you could resell it to recoup some of your money. |
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I was also looking at a Cayman site (HIP Design) that offers the clear engine covers for the Cayman and the painting of the intake manifolds (silver for the runners, read with white Porsche lettering at the top) looked great. HIP also offers a cover for their clear engine cover so that items can still be stored on top of the clear cover or one can simply protect that clear cover when there isn't a desire to show off the engine. Interesting. |
Nice Nice Nice!!! I like
Shehadehd I've always said you had more than a trick. You got skillz mate ;) |
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Getting your intake manifold painted is almost a must to take full advantage of the clear engine cover. HIP's storage bin is pretty cool. I don't know if it's $300 cool though. Since some have the Bose system and would rather keep it in, I'm looking at a way to let you guys put the rear self on the cover if needed. It would get rid of the engine view from the cabin. You should still be able to see the engine through the rear window with the top up. |
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Thanks! I might not have the fancy equipment that you have... But I do what I can :) |
A cover for the plexi is good. i'm wondering if this could be done in such away as the orginal cover would fit back over the plexi and then just be removed when wanting to show the engine? That's probably getting a bit complicated...
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