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soucorp 09-24-2013 11:15 AM

crazy Porsche crash...
 
LiveLeak.com - Rally Crash, Porsche 964 totalled and launched into the water.

was this dude asleep at the wheels???

coreseller 09-24-2013 11:30 AM

He's a very experienced rally driver, throttle stuck wide open and not enough time to cut motor. Both driver and co-driver escaped serious injury. In process of rebuilding the car. Interview in dutch but some footage of car being repaired:

Kleinjan nauwelijks onder de indruk van crash in Hellendoorn Rally

He said damage is not that bad and they will be back next year. His reaction to the crash, translated. "Well I have a black eye and my co driver caught a cold because of the water"

My favorite part is the guy who immediately shrugs off the crash and resumes staring at his phone, it's not just Americans lol.

Nine8Six 09-24-2013 11:59 AM

^ They all say the same story!

Can't count the number of times I've seen this same mistake on many circuits I had the chance to hangout at. Locking the wheels + panic = fast and straight run to the nearest ditch

Not sleeping, just inexperienced is my best guess

soucorp 09-24-2013 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coreseller (Post 364707)
He's a very experienced rally driver, throttle stuck wide open and not enough time to cut motor. Both driver and co-driver escaped serious injury. In process of rebuilding the car. Interview in dutch but some footage of car being repaired:

Kleinjan nauwelijks onder de indruk van crash in Hellendoorn Rally

He said damage is not that bad and they will be back next year. His reaction to the crash, translated. "Well I have a black eye and my co driver caught a cold because of the water"

My favorite part is the guy who immediately shrugs off the crash and resumes staring at his phone, it's not just Americans lol.

In looking at the video in SLO-MO, I only see he's trying to brake hard before the barrier but I do not see him steer the wheel on the turn at all. Sorry but not buying the throttle stuck open excuse. Glad they both didn't get seriously hurt.

thstone 09-24-2013 12:50 PM

I have to say that the first time that I watched this I was freaked about the co-driver being stuck under the water. Glad that he got out ok.

coreseller 09-24-2013 01:27 PM

Well guys, it wasn't me doing the driving, I was just relaying what was reported over in Holland / Finland. Good to know we are blessed with such accomplished road rally drivers here on the Boxster Board.............:rolleyes:

husker boxster 09-24-2013 04:09 PM

"Who's the U-Boat Commander?"

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KRAM36 09-24-2013 05:11 PM

Rough way to get your Porsche water cooled. :p

stephen wilson 09-25-2013 04:29 PM

No way to tell from the video, but I can tell you from first hand experience, if it was a stuck throttle, you won't just let off and steer out of it. Luckily I just went into a runoff area, not a barrier.

BYprodriver 09-25-2013 04:41 PM

Slap shifter into neutral &/or press clutch pedal to the floor? :confused:

See the wheel rim break off leaving the center bolted in place?

TeamOxford 09-25-2013 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BYprodriver (Post 364954)
Slap shifter into neutral &/or press clutch pedal to the floor? :confused:

Then turn and HANDBRAKE!

TO

stephen wilson 09-26-2013 04:20 AM

OK, Have you guys actually had this happen? I have, you just can't think & react that quickly. I tried to hit the kill switch, and missed !

That's why it would be worth it for any racer to practice several response scenarios, building muscle memory in case it's ever needed.

wawa 09-26-2013 04:48 AM

Might I add people are forgeting one thing. This guy is racing, so when do you think he is gonna brake? At the last second! So, time to lift of gaz, start braking, realizing gaz is stuck, it's already late to do anything.

It's not an old lady having her yaris gaz stuck on the flat long linear highway.

Later
Chris

jesseborgelt 09-26-2013 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BYprodriver (Post 364954)
Slap shifter into neutral &/or press clutch pedal to the floor? :confused:

See the wheel rim break off leaving the center bolted in place?

I had to watch it again after you mentioned the wheel breaking. That is not something you see often!

If I crashed a car and was embarrassed I would probably blame some mechanical part of the car too. If the throttle was stuck, wouldn't you continue to hear the engine rev? It appears to decrease prior to hitting the wall. Compare the WOT sound of him coming out of the corner to just prior to the "oh crap moment" when impact is unavoidable. It sounds like he let up prior to impact.

Nine8Six 09-26-2013 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jesseborgelt (Post 365054)
I had to watch it again after you mentioned the wheel breaking. That is not something you see often!

If I crashed a car and was embarrassed I would probably blame some mechanical part of the car too.

That's ego, I have the same behavior. Sticky everything, gears, brakes, even tires are FREE to accuse ;)

But commercial-wise, most often the sponsor(s) will request and pay for press conferences and interviews to be staged. Scripts in the lines of "mechanical failure" are 100% of the time used in any embarrassing scenario. Been in the business for a while to know.

The only 'mistake' allowed to be publically disclosed in professional (or sponsored) racing is to be passed by a faster racer. The rest is all mechanical failures. What else can it be.

BYprodriver 09-26-2013 09:37 AM

[QUOTE=jesseborgelt;365054]I had to watch it again after you mentioned the wheel breaking. That is not something you see often!

If I crashed a car and was embarrassed I would probably blame some mechanical part of the car too. If the throttle was stuck, wouldn't you continue to hear the engine rev? It appears to decrease prior to hitting the wall. Compare the WOT sound of him coming out of the corner to just prior to the "oh crap moment" when impact is unavoidable. It sounds like he let up prior to impact.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, it does sound like the engine is much quieter. It's strange that he never seemed to turn the steering wheel.

woodsman 09-26-2013 01:29 PM

ALWAYS TURN THE WHEEL! LIFT AND TURN-- LIFT AND TURN-- LIFT AND TURN!!! Brain fade takes only a tenth of a second and then ALWAYS LIFT AND TURN!!:eek:


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