This can't be good for re-sale value

[01SBox]

Been thinking about upgrading my 03 S to a 911 S....did a search for 911's on craigslist and this popped up...

PORSCHE BUYERS BEWARE

someone is pissed.

[The French Dude]

Yes but people has to know this fact...

[Hayden]

Wow, someone is really pissed. They have a point, but are ignoring the majority of Boxsters that don't, and will not, experience an IMSB failure.

[Foydawg]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Wow, someone is really pissed. They have a point, but are ignoring the majority of Boxsters that don't, and will not, experience an IMSB failure.

You should be knocking on some serious wood when you say that, Hayden. You never know when you might suddenly become one the unlucky ones.

Having just experienced my own IMSB failure, I'm pissed too. I've been tempted to go on my own social media campaign like the Craigslist poster but that tactic only hurts those that already own Porsche's and not necessarily Porsche.

[woodsman]

yea and I've never believed Porsche's numbers. - if you haven't replaced your IMS yet you better get to it!

[Hayden]

Not denying that it is a problem, but to go on a crusade about it, while understandable, is probably just consuming the person emotionally with little effect. I will say, though, that a CL ad like that is pretty darn effective regionally, and will probably get flagged too.

If it happens to me, I will be pissed/furious, yes. Perhaps it's just simply unacceptable for Porsche to produce this error and not handle it properly. I wasn't in that boat over the years (as a new owner.) Just saying that statistically, it seems that the failure rate doesn't indicate that all owners are going to be screwed if they buy a boxster. Especially a dual row version. A gamble, yes. More so than any car I've owned or considered owning, but not a guarantee. I don't know.. this topic is just too touchy. It sucks for you guys, and I'm sorry you've had to go through it. Really - it's f*cking expensive.

I guess the best we can hope for out of ads like this are to educate people so that they can use it as a negotiating point to get the retrofit, and get them on here to have a better ownership experience through support and general good times with the community.

[particlewave]

All cars have flaws. They are precision machines with thousands of moving parts...sometimes things break

The failure percentage is pretty low and if one is going to buy something, it's up to them to research it. Then again, I have the big ol' double row and not in the least bit worried

I also don't buy into scare-hype.

[Perfectlap]

Simple fix. Replace IMSB with a Pelican unit or the LNE Solution.
No more worry or anger.

At this point anyone who decides to roll the dice after purchase and ends up holding the unlucky lottery ticket gets no sympathy from those of us who decided to budget for the swap before doing any upgrading or modifying. However if they bought used from a Porsche dealer and were never told/warned then that's different. Most Porsche owners aren't reading forums and Excellence Magazine.

[thstone]

Originally Posted by 01SBox

This can't be good for re-sale value.

Re-sale values have already tanked. The difference in price between a 100K mile running and 100K mile non-running 986 is $5K-$7K - which just happens to be the price of a replacement engine. They can't much cheaper.

[nicecar]

BRUMOS sold me the car, I was told I would'nt be back for a year or 10,000 miles.Within 60 days i spent 4800 with them cv s all the way around, bearings ,so I could go to there D E they were sending me to w/ Hurley for purchasing the car from them. then the clutch went out 90,000 (bought with 88) I asked about the ims..before the clutch job, master mechanic said" what ims" i said ims berring he said oh...havent heard anything about it. today berring is being installed at 113000 and brumos is being picketed for the last month for ims. Coincidentaly hurley was on a commercial saying brumos motors repair centers match price for the same repair from ANYWHERE. my indy is so busy its buy appt. the car was purchased 2010 ,now they only sell cpo

[01SBox]

yeah, I figured it would be down by now...but still there.

Originally Posted by Hayden

I will say, though, that a CL ad like that is pretty darn effective regionally, and will probably get flagged too.

[jsceash]

You have read our posts haven't you I don't think it's any type of secret. I've been on here since 2009. I think IMS was one of the first post I read then went to LN pages and saw photos and videos of it.

[byronvf]

I own a 2002 Boxster with 41k miles on it. I've owned it now for about 2 1/2 years. it has been a pretty good car, but the IMS thing has me worried, especially since I'm in the higher risk category with the single row bearing. What's sinister about this defect is that it destroys the engine. If it was the case that the bearing could just be replace once it failed then not a huge deal. My car probably isn't worth much more then $!0k. If the IMS fails then car is totaled, since it will cost at least that much for a new engine. Fixing the bearing issue sound like it will cost me at least $3k, Ouch! My clutch is fine, and probably years off from needing replacement so I can't fold the cost into clutch work. Sound like having this preventative work done will cost a large portion of the total cost of the car, Uhg. My choices are take my chances, fix it at a large cost, sell the car. I'm not sure.

[Perfectlap]

^cant you just do the Pelican bearing now for ~$1,100 and do the LNE Solution a few years later when the clutch is toast?

[dixbu]

Ignorance is bliss

[runjmc2]

I would love to see a ranking (highest percentage to lowest) of the top causes that take a M96/M97 Boxster off the road. If the ranking includes overheating (a general category I know), valve train (other than IMS), and stupidity....I bet IMS is not #1

[jb92563]

I think this is GOOD advertising because it will depreciate the Boxsters faster and then when it comes time for my next newer model I can upgrade for less cost.

Besides the used 10+ year old Boxster with few miles is already a best kept secret and excellent value even if the engine does blow.

[bella986]

being new to the 986 world, can one tell by VIN if I have a single or double row IMS bearing set up? I believe I was given all original paperwork and receipts, any external way of verifying this IMS upgrade could have been done?
thanks for your responses

[Timco]

Originally Posted by bella986

being new to the 986 world, can one tell by VIN if I have a single or double row IMS bearing set up? I believe I was given all original paperwork and receipts, any external way of verifying this IMS upgrade could have been done?
thanks for your responses

I have all the same questions. I believe a sticker is put on the car under the hood or trunk?

[particlewave]

Originally Posted by bella986

being new to the 986 world, can one tell by VIN if I have a single or double row IMS bearing set up?

You need the # off the engine block. Bottom passenger side, iirc