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southernstar 08-12-2013 11:48 AM

The part number is 996106 447 04 (the original was the same except the last two digits were 00). Available from Pelican, Suncoast, etc., etc.

Brad

jotoole 08-12-2013 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFP in PA (Post 356673)
We pressure test them every time a car comes into the shop; if they don't hold until 18.2 PSIG, they go in the trash. Never tried to develop an "average life expectancy", as it seems to be all over the map. If you can't pressure test, I would replace it at least every two years.

That seems to be my luck with the caps, have always had that condensation so I've ordered yet another "04" cap.

Idaho Red Rocket 3 08-12-2013 09:21 PM

2000 Boxster S 82,000 miles with original cap and no problems.

haz 08-12-2013 11:20 PM

Many responses here are "milage" and "no problems".

Isn't a coolant cap replacement, before a problem appers, the whole point? As a preventive action?

I ordered this one:
PORSCHE 911 BOXSTER CAYMAN COOLANT EXPANSION TANK CAP | eBay

Quote:

Originally Posted by trimer (Post 357014)
So what is the latest and greatest cap I should be ordering? Anyone with a link?


clickman 08-21-2013 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by recycledsixtie (Post 356515)
My coolant cap from my indy shop is blue and says Germany on it. However there are no numbers on it. It could be made in China for all I know!?

I also got my -04 cap like this from a respected indy. The tag on the bag looks genuine, so hopefully it's ok. The missing part number could be an annoyance down the road...

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1377108125.jpg

Mark_T 08-21-2013 10:59 AM

Cap, coolant tank, and sensor replaced at 128000 km. No condensation or leaking issues at that time.

Perfectlap 08-21-2013 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haz (Post 357136)
Many responses here are "milage" and "no problems".

Isn't a coolant cap replacement, before a problem appers, the whole point? As a preventive action?

Well my problem was that each time the cap needed to be taken off to flush the coolant, replace either the coolant tank or water pump, all things you must be doing if you want your head to keep from cracking, the result was that the old cap could not keep a tight seal and air was coming in. This is potentially big big problem if left ignored.
Each time I immediately brought my car back to shop to get the air out but for whatever reason we didn't consider the cap to be the culprit and figured it was that the system hadn't been burped correctly. A bad guess since we were using vacuum fill so air couldn't have gotten in....unless the cap was bad.

So people who are on the original cap with no issues are probably also people who have never replaced their water pump (a potential problem) or people who have never flushed their coolant (a problem if factory coolant has been mixed with generic coolant) or someone who still has the original coolant tank (which often crack because the old cap lets air in after a flush). In other words if your going to take care of your engine properly this must include replacing the coolant cap every time you flush the coolant or replace the water pump. If you do none of these things maybe you'll be lucky. You should also replace your hoses when you do the water pump for the first time.

clickman 08-21-2013 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by l3m (Post 356512)
Here's a pic of the latest coolant cap. I replaced mine last month after I noticed a slight drop in coolant level.

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps586b280c.jpg

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/f...psdf33d828.jpg

Interesting. My -04 cap looks nothing like that...

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1377123690.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1377123702.jpg

ekam 08-21-2013 02:39 PM

Could be a VW cap ? I'd replace it asap.

clickman 08-21-2013 02:45 PM

Not VW. See my post above, where I show the bag with the correct Porsche part number. And I bought it from a well-respected indy. And apparently I'm not the only one with one like this...

ccjazz 08-21-2013 02:45 PM

I agree with ekam. Maybe you picked up the wrong one. Got mine from the dealer recently and it's identical to the top one pictured.

ccjazz 08-21-2013 03:08 PM

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1377126411.jpg


This is what my packaging looks like. Similar but not exact.

ekam 08-21-2013 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickman (Post 358646)
Not VW. See my post above, where I show the bag with the correct Porsche part number. And I bought it from a well-respected indy. And apparently I'm not the only one with one like this...

Either way, get the OEM one direct from the dealer - order from Suncoast or Sunset, both ships to Canada.

After reading this thread I think I'm going to pickup the 04 cap tomorrow just to be safe... I noticed there's condensation around the cap area recently. (I have 03 cap and it's around 2-3 years old.)

ccjazz 08-21-2013 04:42 PM

Changed mine in May. My coolant level was getting low (around the 'min' mark). Wasn't any sign of residue around the cap area and it was dry under the carpet. Since the cap change and top-off the level has stayed just below the full mark.

986_c6 08-21-2013 05:25 PM

78k with 02 base original cap...looks like I will be switching caps soon.

Perfectlap 08-22-2013 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickman (Post 358588)
I also got my -04 cap like this from a respected indy. The tag on the bag looks genuine, so hopefully it's ok. The missing part number could be an annoyance down the road...

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1377108125.jpg

I have the same. No part number on the cap. Weird. My indy strongly favors using OEM whenever possible. Maybe this is new VW takeover stuff...
suppliers are not being directed to follow part numbering protocol strictly. But that meshy thing on one and not the other seems weirder.

trimer 08-22-2013 08:29 AM

OK - so another dumb question. If you replace just the cap. Say I order one, it shows up, I take the old cap off, put the new one on (i just checked and mine ends in 01 so it must be an original), am I going to have a problem with air getting into the system by just changing the cap???

ccjazz 08-22-2013 08:58 AM

I'd just make sure that the engine is cold, say after it's sat over night you'll be fine. Unless you've been having to add coolant recently which might have introduced air into the system.

Perfectlap 08-22-2013 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trimer (Post 358741)
OK - so another dumb question. If you replace just the cap. Say I order one, it shows up, I take the old cap off, put the new one on (i just checked and mine ends in 01 so it must be an original), am I going to have a problem with air getting into the system by just changing the cap???

Since this car is new to you I have a general rule when it comes to anything coolant system related:

Don't guess. Have the professional check everything out. You can't kid around with this part of the car.

The cap is cheap but plays a critical role. In my opinion, the latest cap should be part of the PPI, as well as replacing the coolant tank. Coolant should be flushed at some interval, people debate how often, but once you decide to do this you have to make sure it's been done right by previous owners.

ekam 08-23-2013 05:47 AM

I will post pics later but I found white residue outside of my 03 cap. Will post pics later.

runjmc2 08-23-2013 09:13 AM

My '97 with 103K mi had the original cap AND had previously (to me) had the water pump and tank replaced. In addition, my mechanic looked everything over and did not mention it first...point being not "everyone" shares the concern with using the original cap. I agree with the logic to replace it and requested that my mechanic change it at the last oil change.

Perfectlap 01-17-2014 01:15 PM

^ smart. and Friday bump. We must have a lot of new Members since thread start.

heliguy 01-17-2014 02:10 PM

Original...

jsceash 01-17-2014 03:09 PM

I believe it's original. the only one I've had

doragman 01-18-2014 07:04 AM

original...on a 99

evan9eleven 01-18-2014 02:04 PM

New version of the cap at 73,000 kms, along with preventative maintenance: water pump, thermostat and coolant tank (among a dozen other things.)

Perfectlap 04-25-2014 01:33 PM

Friday bump...

And replace your gas cap too. I think it got rid of a CEL that kept coming up.

John Bergen 04-25-2014 03:08 PM

Replaced it with the new version on my 2000S at 66K miles. Car was overheating before that.

986_c6 05-16-2014 01:02 PM

Just had a slight trail of coolant when pulling into the garage, condensation at the trunk, and I noticed the past 1-2 years, I was topping off with distilled water (not much, less than 1/2 cup).

Ordering from Suncoast right now...you guys rock!

Tucker2 05-16-2014 04:20 PM

Thanks for this thread guys. I have this issue and an 01 cap. I'll be ordering a new one this weekend.

eicheldp 05-16-2014 06:08 PM

Started getting condensation in the trunk and replaced the original cap on my 2004S with 16,000 miles. Trunk is now free of condensation.

jotoole 05-18-2014 05:49 AM

On my second 04 version coolant cap. Caps seemed fine, just replaced them hoping to eliminate condensation.
Have always had condensation. No loss of coolant or overheating, except when water pump fails.
And I'm on my fourth water pump. Worn impellers each time.
100,000 mi 2000 base.

Timco 05-18-2014 06:07 AM

Had condensation over the cap area. Swapped cap a year back. Blue one. No condensation since.

jotoole 05-18-2014 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotoole (Post 400834)
On my second 04 version coolant cap. Caps seemed fine, just replaced them hoping to eliminate condensation.
Have always had condensation. No loss of coolant or overheating, except when water pump fails.
And I'm on my fourth water pump. Worn impellers each time.
100,000 mi 2000 base.

Still have condensation, albeit very little.

986_c6 05-20-2014 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotoole (Post 400834)
On my second 04 version coolant cap. Caps seemed fine, just replaced them hoping to eliminate condensation.
Have always had condensation. No loss of coolant or overheating, except when water pump fails.
And I'm on my fourth water pump. Worn impellers each time.
100,000 mi 2000 base.

Yikes! 4 water pumps in 100k miles? How did you know water pump failed each time, did you wait for it to overheat, or trail of coolant leaking under the car?

I am on my original water pump with 80k miles, 02 base.

Thanks.

OKCShooter 05-20-2014 05:07 AM

2002 w/80K...Original Cap

Coaster 05-20-2014 07:42 AM

Replaced mine at 95k with water pump (which was beginning to leak) and coolant.

Ian c 05-20-2014 09:06 AM

03 Boxster 2.7 tip .
142k on original 02 cap

09 carrera 4s pdk .
65k on original 03 cap

SpikeJr 05-20-2014 10:40 PM

Glad this thread was refreshed - after putting down my beverage I took a stroll out to the garage and noticed that my cap was an .01 part number. For a minute I was impressed that I have 88K miles on my '98 Boxster and I'm still on the original cap...then I started to recall that there was some work done on the system by the previous owner....

So that got me looking through the maintenance records I received with the car. Sure enough - in 2005 with 36K miles the reservoir was replaced and a new cap was included.

What I find odd is the service record has the new cap as having the part number of .04....and I somehow have a cap with an .01 part number?? Did they have the .04 cap in 2005?

Regardless - even if the cap was replaced a 2nd time with an original .01 part number cap...I will now be ordering the .04 cap...

Perfectlap 05-21-2014 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpikeJr (Post 401273)

Regardless - even if the cap was replaced a 2nd time with an original .01 part number cap...I will now be ordering the .04 cap...

Smart. Our resident mechanic says his shop toss any that don't hold a minimum presure of 18 PSIG if I recall. Seems to me that if you flush as a DIY without vac fill and have a cap not holding enough pressure you'll like split the original coolant tank via trapped air or worse you'll bake up a fresh batch of hot pockets and burn your tongue.


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