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ekam 01-16-2012 05:14 AM

Sat in the 991 at Detroit Auto Show...
 
I'm really not crazy with the slanted windshield design that all the manufacturers are doing. It pushes the dash & steering wheel further forward away from you. (Yes I have tried adjusting the powered adjustable steering wheel on 2 separate cars but it won't come further forward.)

I also notice you sit into the car and you'll get surrounded by the high dash and doors like a tank as supposed to looking the car's front fenders like on the 986. 986 or 993 and earlier owners know what I'm talking about. (I'm 6'2".)

The standard full powered seats are very, very supportive, but definitely not for large people and I wonder the side bolster will wear quickly as you'll rub when you get in and out for sure.

Carrera S now have standard 6-pot front calipers. The wheels also have a slightly different (satin?) finish than the common painted silver color. They look nice.

It does not have front radiator, the center black hole is fake and does not redirect air to the side like the 997.2.

Frunk has everything covered up with plastic bits except for windshield wiper cap. Rear "hatch" opens but everything is covered except for coolant cap I think ... I couldn't find the oil cap. Not good for DIYer but I guess the new owners won't be doing any DIY.

Pictures coming later this afternoon...

ekam 01-16-2012 06:11 PM

http://www.pbase.com/elegantcam/imag...0/original.jpg

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http://www.pbase.com/elegantcam/imag...6/original.jpg

ekam 01-16-2012 06:13 PM

http://www.pbase.com/elegantcam/imag...0/original.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/elegantcam/imag...1/original.jpg

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ekam 01-16-2012 06:16 PM

http://www.pbase.com/elegantcam/imag...7/original.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/elegantcam/imag...9/original.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/elegantcam/imag...0/original.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/elegantcam/imag...9/original.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/elegantcam/imag...0/original.jpg

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landrovered 01-16-2012 06:20 PM

Great photos, better than most magazines to date.

jaykay 01-16-2012 07:19 PM

Agreed....great stuff Ekam!

unklekraker 01-16-2012 09:04 PM

+1 w/ landrovered....Great shots, man!!!!

thstone 01-16-2012 09:10 PM

Very nice photos! Thanks.

DFW02S 01-16-2012 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ekam (Post 274483)
I'm really not crazy with the slanted windshield design that all the manufacturers are doing. It pushes the dash & steering wheel further forward away from you. (Yes I have tried adjusting the powered adjustable steering wheel on 2 separate cars but it won't come further forward.).....

Chris Harris made a similar comment in EVO magazine, but said that after 40 minutes of driving, he didn't care any longer because the car was that good.

coreseller 01-17-2012 02:11 AM

Agreed on the photography, well done Ekam. Except for the rear bumper novel and chaotic seams / lines all over it, I like the rest.

blue2000s 01-17-2012 02:26 AM

Notice how small the driver looks in the car? This thing is huge.

The interior has alot of shiney metal and complicated shapes. It's way overstyled imo.

landrovered 01-17-2012 03:18 AM

I want to see the 911 with a big ass wing on the back before I make my final verdict. It is elegant but can it carry the full monte ?

ekam 01-17-2012 03:47 AM

^SpeedArt.

http://sacarfan.co.za/wp-content/upl...t-sp91-r-2.jpg

http://www.motorward.com/wp-content/...ART-SP91-R.jpg

GT3

http://log.autogespot.com/01-2012/911/3.jpg

Pat 01-17-2012 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blue2000s (Post 274605)
Notice how small the driver looks in the car? This thing is huge.

Ugh, I thought the same thing. Cars are just getting so outrageously huge. Even the cars that are supposed to be sports cars. Ridiculous.
I can't help but wonder what the car would be like at 70% it's new size. SO much more fun, I'm sure.

blue2000s 01-17-2012 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat (Post 274623)
Ugh, I thought the same thing. Cars are just getting so outrageously huge. Even the cars that are supposed to be sports cars. Ridiculous.
I can't help but wonder what the car would be like at 70% it's new size. SO much more fun, I'm sure.

LOL, it would be a 993 and it would be awesome!

tonycarreon 01-17-2012 08:37 AM

blackberry tablet, digital dash & chrono integrated in 911 @ CES 2012...

QNX Porsche 911 - YouTube

vitaminC 01-17-2012 08:40 AM

Thanks for the detailed images. Looking forward to sitting in one myself!

thstone 01-17-2012 09:44 AM

The good news is that as everything Porsche moves upmarket, the older 911's start to look like incredible deals so I've been looking at a few 996 Turbo's with low miles at half the price of a new Boxster.

ekam 01-17-2012 09:49 AM

Yup, great deal on 996 Turbo for sure... no IMS, proven platform for 600, hell even 700+hp.

Perfectlap 01-17-2012 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DFW02S (Post 274602)
Chris Harris made a similar comment in EVO magazine, but said that after 40 minutes of driving, he didn't care any longer because the car was that good.

Harris is one of my favorites, clearly the guy can drive too btw, but I always take journalists evaluations of something new from Porsche with a Titanic iceberg-sized grain of salt. You can't make it a habit to slam all of Porsche's efforts and expect to get first crack at their cars. Harris in particular is a purist who is so fanatical that he mortgaged his next three lifetimes to pay for the 997 GT3 4.0 with no special terms, all interest up front at 7% when the base rate is 000.000%
I'm sure in private he will tell you that the grandpa ride/Rohrl time sheet essence of these now longer than a Corvette (just put the engine the middle already) Carreras are making an undeniable turn in the direction of more Aston Martin less Steve McQueen.


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