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Who here has a lift at home?
I've convinced my dad to go in on a lift with me (he's got the space for it, im in an apt. :) )
The only ones I've ever really seen "retail" are at Harbor Freight, and while I trust them for "throw away" socket sets, I don't trust my life to a car above my head on one of their lifts. I did a quick google and found "Challenger Lifts" and emailed them about the "CL4P9X Home Storage 4 Post Lift" (http://www.challengerlifts.com/CL4P9.shtml) which looks exactly like what I'm looking for. I'm looking to spend no more than around $2,000, pretty much set on a 4-post (seem safer and can be used free-standing), and I'd like the ability to still be able to take the wheels off while it's on the lift (like the challenger above). Anyone have lifts at home, or have gone through the same search process? Any tips or hints to watch out for when lift shopping? Thanks fellas! |
Just found this one (although it's a 2 post). Removes doubt about whether it would "work" with the Box :)
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200386167_200386167 Lifts like this one, do they need to be bolted to the ground? I'd like one that does not require modification of the concrete floor, but these just don't "look" safe... |
Check out gesusa.com for lifts (no affiliation). I bought a BendPak 4 post lift from them a few years ago and it works great. My 3 car garage now holds 4 cars!
The Danmar lifts are a little cheaper and similar quality. Not sure you can get a good 4 post lift for less than $2000, but these guys had lowest pricing and great service for what I was looking for at the time. |
Another member of this forum (thank you Paul) turned me on to this company: http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/Atlas-TD6MR-Portable-Scissor-Lift-p/attd-6mr.htm
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oh man! I think I found my lift! http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=XH-PRO8000
I'm assuming you have the scissor lift you linked to? I'm not even sure how I'd accept delivery of that 4 post lift??? 53' foot trailer delivery means you'll probably have to meet up in a parking lot somewhere with your own trailer (simple enough), but how would I coordinate the transfer from the big rig to the small trailer? |
Are you desiring a lift for added car storage, or to work on the car? A four post lift is for car storage or for an exhaust shop. If you want to work on the car, you'll find it virtually useless.
Any two post lift needs to be bolted to the floor, and you must have concrete that is of appropriate PSI and thickness. If you want to work on the car, you really want a two post lift, but with a car like a Porsche, you can get away with a scissor lift, but they are useless for any "normal" cars (BMWs, S2000s, Audis, etc) for anything beyond working on the corners of the car, as the scissor mechanism blocks access to the driveline. |
i like the stability of a 4 post lift and the advantage of being able to store 2 vehicles if I choose. The added clearance underneath is a plus (can't get that with a scissor lift)
I don't want one I need to bolt to the floor, so 2 posts are out. Scissor lifts block too much access for floor jacks and bodies than a 4 post lift. How is a 4 post lift worthless? |
Got a two post lift, no floor plate and assrimick arms.
Allows you to get out of the car without hitting the door, and takes up less floor space. As far as foundations go and bolting, there is nothing special needed. Normal concrete strength and thickness are OK. I park the Porsche underneath, and keep either the Formula Ford or Lotus above. Just remember, that most two post lifts are designed for front engined cars. Porsche being midengined has a different centre of gravety, so it can get unbalanced. If you lift fiberglass cars, just remember that you must lift by the chasis, otherwise body up on the lift, chasis on the ground. If lifting Formula race cars, the shorter front bars are usually not long enough, so some extension is needed. |
I haven't bought a lift yet (next year's budget) but I'm going to go with the Max Jax Portable:
http://www.princessauto.com/car_hoists It is reasonably priced, more than adequste in its lifting capacity, and can be unbolted from the floor and wheeled away when not in use. Plus (big plus actually) it can be operated on a 110V circuit. Most people don't have 220V in their garage. |
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One other reason I like the 4 post lift is that I also have a 914, which as we all know, lives on the lift :)
I'd like to be able to have two cars in at the same time if I need to. The scissor lifts look really functionally smart, but are you ever nervous about front to back balance? Also, my dad would like to be able to work on his F150 if he needed to, so there's a need for some "common ground" on the lift to be able to accommodate the Box, the Teener and the Truck. |
Front to back stability is great, it's solid as a rock front to back and side to side. It can also easily lift a full sized SUV.
That said you can lift any car on any arm type lift and have it fall off the front or back of the lift if too much weight is on one end. The lift stays put, but the car does not. The key is to maximize the distance between the front and rear arms to minimize the lever arms of the weight in front of the front arms and behind the rear arms. Using the stock jack points has worked well for me. It uses 110V power. |
Click on the watch video:
http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/Atlas-TD6MR-Portable-Scissor-Lift-p/attd-6mr.htm |
That's good info Paul, I appreciate the photos. I am trying to decide between a two post and scissor. Do you recall approx how much it was for shipping? Also, I don't have a forklift or anything like that, how did you get it off the back of the truck when it arrived? What do you do for storage when it's not in use?
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In one of life's ironies, I had free access to a professional shop including four post lift, every imaginable tool and two young gun ASE mechanics in the next room in case things got hairy. My legs didn't last long enough to go on that 986 repair journey but I would have liked it, in the same room is an old Camaro and an original mini.
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Had mine up on a 2 post Bend-Pak just a few weeks ago. No problem with lifting and working. I would own a scissor lift if at home though.
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I've got a scissor lift. Beware thought they aren't all equal. the first one i looked at the specs posted on the web said the arms would extend to a maximum 63 inches wide. I measured my boxster and bmw and the lift would do both. When i got it delivered and set up the arms would only extend to a maximum width of 54 inches so I couldn't lift the bmw with it.
When I called and complained they said the specifications were subject to change. I felt I was misled. I bought the unit as opposed to their competitors based on the specifications listed on their website. They did take the unit back and I picked one up from another vendor. Theirs had the same size frame but longer arms and did fit the bmw. Moral of the story: online specifications are worthless and subject to change whenever it benefits the vendor. |
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Max jax
I have a max-jax portable 2 post lift in my garage with 8 1/2 foot ceilings. Love it. Was one of the first buyers and highly recommend it. MaxJax Portable Two Post Lifting System by Dannmar.
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I have a typical 2 car garage and do not have much space for a lift. I do most of my own maint-repair on my cars and have been looking for one.
With the space I have I've been eying this one out. EZ CAR LIFT - FREE-STANDING USE-ANYWHERE CAR LIFT! FAST. SAFE. STRONG.EASY. Wonder if anyone here have tried this. Still undecided. |
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additionally, if you need to remove the wheel to do anything it's useless - try to replace the cv boots with that lift. if you're looking to store the boxster for the winter in your dad's garage, then it seems like a good choice. assuming your dad (or mom) don't mind parking under another car. :) |
Hey Paul...
Awhile back I did my front motor mount and my water pump/thermostat. With your scissor lift, would all these parts be easily accessible? Ie, is the front part of the engine behind the back part of the lift, or do you have to be somewhat of a contortionist to reach stuff through the support structures of the lift? |
Just buy one of those ramps from pepboys. They lift the car 1 foot when you drive over them. Plenty of space to work on anything.
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I have been reading more about lifts over the last few days and I think I see most of the advantages and disadvantages of each style, but now my overriding concern is, how do I get the thing off the back of the delivery truck? I live in the burbs and don't have a dock or any type of a forklift. It looks like it would be a 3rd party shipping company that would deliver it, and details are a little sketchy as to if they would even have a lift gate, but it appears even that wouldn't be enough. I have also read in a few places where people say "the driver isn't going to sit and wait for an hour while you dismantle the thing and take it off piece by piece."
If you own a lift, how did you do it? I don't own a truck either, but could borrow or rent one if that could somehow help. (ie, picking it up at at shipping terminal that would put it in my truck with their forklift, then I could screw around all day unloading it) |
Benjamin, I'm betting the delivery company will be well aware of the pallet jacks or equivalent needed to get the product into your driveway. They may even have an electric gate that lowers it like an appliance delivery. From the driveway to install it's all you.
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Delivery at a shipping terminal and a (rental) truck is one option I considered when I got my lift. I ended up having it delivered to my Brother-in-law's business and he brought it over on his car hauling trailer. We opened the package on the trailer and unloaded it piece by piece and set it up.
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I Have the Maxjax I think it is the best investment I've made. Work great on all my cars and truck.
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The easy car lift looks kind of awkward. To high for a creeper but not high enough for a chair, or enough height to stand under. Not sure, does anyone own this? Max Jax looks like the way to go. This thread has got me seriously thinking again.
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Atlas Lift
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…just installed an Atlas Lift, 8,000lb. capacity. Should do the job and then some. Our garage has an eleven foot ceiling, should have done this years ago.
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You don't need no stinking lift! |
Once you press a button to make your car go up and down as you please - you realize it's the greatest thing you've ever bought if you like to work on your own car. I did and it's worth every single penny it cost me (200000 pennies).
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Definitely the best thing that I've ever done!
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Meh, if you guys can't get on your backs under a car up on jacks, you aren't real wrenches.
Alright, I envy you. I hate crawling under the car , only to have to crawl out to get a tool I forgot. But I guess you guys have bigger bank than me. I can't see investing in a lift that I will use only a few times a year. Oh, any of you guys in the Miami area? |
I purchased this AMMCO scissor lift used when I lived in Orlando off Craigslist. The movers loved putting this on the moving truck :D . When I bought my house in GA. I decided to recess it into the floor which I did myself. Just love using it makes everything so much easier. I've had my 914, 911 and Boxster on it no issues at all. One of these days I'll buy a used four post to go along side her. In my opinion buying used is the way to go.
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That looks awesome and is a great idea. |
wow I have to say some of you guys have some really cool toys.
One day I'll have a proper sized garage and do just that :) Great inspiration. Thx for sharing!!! |
EZCarLift!
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The best option I could find for a one car garage. Only up about 18" here - goes to 26". Enough to remove the engine if you take off the rear bumper.
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