2012 Boxster

[CenterIsl]

Originally Posted by blue2000s

http://wot.motortrend.com/report-nextgen-boxstercayman-to-get-bigger-lighter-and-more-powerful-9209.html

Good link - and the article they link to has more detail that sounds pretty accurate to me.

[Deserion]

A Boxster without a boxer motor is not really a Boxster, now is it.

[yelojkt]

Originally Posted by Deserion

A Boxster without a boxer motor is not really a Boxster, now is it.

Good point. I drive a car with a slightly modified 1.8T and it makes the base boxsters that I have driven feel feel slow. I have yet to drive an S model. But I would say it would be comparable in speed to my car. I love this motor (1.8T) but I do not want one in a boxster. I want a flat six. Lower center of gravity and the sound. A boxster without the growl of the flat six behind you just would not be a proper boxster.

[ekam]

http://www.motorauthority.com/blog/1030927_spy-shots-2012-porsche-boxster

[Overdrive]

interesting read, ekam. The car's gone from looking very Carerra GT in style in the 987 to looking very 918 spyder in the 2012, at least in the front end appearance.

[eightsandaces]

Originally Posted by yelojkt

Good point. I drive a car with a slightly modified 1.8T and it makes the base boxsters that I have driven feel feel slow. I have yet to drive an S model. But I would say it would be comparable in speed to my car. I love this motor (1.8T) but I do not want one in a boxster. I want a flat six. Lower center of gravity and the sound. A boxster without the growl of the flat six behind you just would not be a proper boxster.

The boxster feeling slow is sometimes due to how well Porsche cars go fast. Conversely, my old Fiat sounds and feels like it's quick but it's not, at least relative to anything new.

[jbs986]

Originally Posted by eightsandaces

The boxster feeling slow is sometimes due to how well Porsche cars go fast. Conversely, my old Fiat sounds and feels like it's quick but it's not, at least relative to anything new.

I Have a 99 Boxster it can do 0-60 in 7.7 sec. that is SLOOOOOW. My Volvo 0-60 time is 6.5. My Lotus Elise can do it in 4.8 sec.

[eightsandaces]

Originally Posted by jbs986

I Have a 99 Boxster it can do 0-60 in 7.7 sec. that is SLOOOOOW. My Volvo 0-60 time is 6.5. My Lotus Elise can do it in 4.8 sec.

Porsche's are not boulevard stop light racers, people who rate cars based on 0-60 are limiting their interpretation of the vehicle. Face it your "volvo" is toast after sixty. I like the Elise but I hear it requires a Yogi master to assist in the entry exit of the vehicle, no thanks. Not to mention the Elise looks like a praying mantis with the "toss another set of vents in" styling cues. The new Lotus Evora looks a lot cooler but the Cayman crushed it in a side by side and costs more than 10k less.

PS My pal's worked, old school, GTO was a rocketship off the line, I don't see it setting any Nuremberg ring times of note. As Alfa used to advertise, "It's not how fast you go, it's how you go fast".

[jbs986]

Originally Posted by eightsandaces

Porsche's are not boulevard stop light racers, people who rate cars based on 0-60 are limiting their interpretation of the vehicle. Face it your "volvo" is toast after sixty. I like the Elise but I hear it requires a Yogi master to assist in the entry exit of the vehicle, no thanks. Not to mention the Elise looks like a praying mantis with the "toss another set of vents in" styling cues. The new Lotus Evora looks a lot cooler but the Cayman crushed it in a side by side and costs more than 10k less.

PS My pal's worked, old school, GTO was a rocketship off the line, I don't see it setting any Nuremberg ring times of note. As Alfa used to advertise, "It's not how fast you go, it's how you go fast".

I agree, I did not buy my boxster for it's off the line performance,If someone did Thay would be vary disappointed.

My point is are cars are show,that is a fact, As far as the Lotus go's Thay say if you look down and can't see your belt you will have a problem getting in and out of a lotus.This is not a problem for me.

As for the comments on the vents unlike Porsche and many other cars,there isn't a single thing on the car that is for just looks, it is there for performance reasons only.the car light at only 1850lbs it will smoke my boxster in every performance category.I would love to take you out on the track with me, based on your comments I can tell you have never been in a Lotus but obviously you an expert when it comes to the Lotus Elise.

As far as looks, I think to looks great, I like that you called it a praying mantis, it will eat my Boxster alive out on the track.

[laphan]

Originally Posted by eightsandaces

The boxster feeling slow is sometimes due to how well Porsche cars go fast. Conversely, my old Fiat sounds and feels like it's quick but it's not, at least relative to anything new.

Completely agree... My winter beater is mercury grand marquis. It has 4.6 V8, feels fast because the car squats whenever you press the accelerator pedal (felt fast like in fast and furious movie but it actually took over 9 sec to 60). The cowl/A- pillar/roof make really loud vibration noise whenever you go faster than 65mph (I still sometime check if I still have my roof after extended highway cruising).
It even feel like you are going to flip over if you take corner faster than 35mph

http://www.insideline.com/mercury/grand-marquis/2010/2010-mercury-grand-marquis-ls-ultimate-edition-full-test.html

The boxster feels slower as long as you don't look at the speedometer....

[chris97boxster]

Originally Posted by Deserion

A Boxster without a boxer motor is not really a Boxster, now is it.

+1
like I said earlier. ..I didn't know what to say to a
turbo 4 cyl (if its an audi/vw)
But that statement sums it up

Would a Corvette b a vette with a V6 in it?

Would a 911 be a 911 with a V8?

Maybe they VW / porsche need a reminder on what makes a boxster
my 2 cents
Chris

[Overdrive]

That's definitely my concern...the whole point of the name of the car was combining two aspects of it, the boxer engine and it being a roadster...not trying to insult anyone's intelligence here, as I'm sure 90% of the members on here know this, but it just points to there being an obvious misnomer situation there if they continue to call the car a Boxster and the engine isn't flat, be it a flat 4, 6, whatever. That'd really be my only gripe if they were to make that error. If it's still a high power 4 cylinder, I can't really complain all that much, it's just the nature of the beast with car development these days.

As for the whole issue of the Lotus (a marque of which I am a fan, so don't try to paint me as biased) vs. the Boxster, as someone mentioned earlier, we're talking about two entirely different machines from two different eras with very different technological developments to them, as well as two very different weights. To expect a trackable street car over a decade old that used to put out 200 horses to the CRANK on a good day with the wind behind it to outperform or even keep up with a featherlight, barely streetable track car is not realistic. You might as well try to compare a Bugatti Veyron to a Tuk-Tuk. I really don't see why someone's trying so hard to point out how lame this car is. A Crown Victoria's pretty lame when you try to compare it to an F1 car, too, but which one can you drive to the track, on the track, and back home again? One could do this all day with any and every car you could think of, but why bother? People know the issues with the car and that Porsche messed up in a lot of ways...it's not stopping people from buying them and enjoying them on and off the track.
:dance:

[jacabean]

there is no need for hostilities gentlemen . We would not be up here if we did not like our Boxsters .
Back to the smaller boxster type car we have been hearing about. I don't think it is even going to be called a boxster. From what i have read the Boxster is just going to keep heading up market and this car will slot in under it to fill where the box. used to be priced.

[jbs986]

The smaller Boxster you are referring to jacabean is the baby Boxster or( the New 356 as it is called internally at Porsche) it will share the same mid-engine platformW/ the new VW Bluesport and the new Audi R4 rumor is that Porsche is developing a horizontally opposed 4-cylinder Turbo 2.0L engine producing 250-300hp. for the car.

The new 356 will be smaller and lighter then the 987 cost less, around $ 40,000 it is ment to undercut the base Boxster/Caman and will be on sale sometime in 2012 and it will still be called a Boxster.

[CenterIsl]

Originally Posted by jbs986

The new 356...will still be called a Boxster.

Sounds like a mistake to me, just as if they'd called the original Boxster a 911 - which would have further insulted the 911 crowd. Insulting the Boxster crowd - now that would really be pissing in their own soup.