Advice on short shift kits

[manolo]

Originally Posted by insite

avoid the schnell. i have it in my car & it has a lot of sideways slop. i've compared it side by side with a B&M and the B&M feels great. i'd go that route.

(unless you want to buy my schnell!)

+1 on this. I have the Schnell and there is sidways slop, a little annoying. If I had to do it again I would go B&M. I can't prove it, but the Schnell seems a bit "chinese knock-off" and not CNC'd billet. I'm nearly positive its just cast aluminum thats machined to look high end. I could see slight pitting in my brand new one when I received it. FYI.

[Quickurt]

Originally Posted by manolo

+1 on this. I have the Schnell and there is sidways slop, a little annoying. If I had to do it again I would go B&M. I can't prove it, but the Schnell seems a bit "chinese knock-off" and not CNC'd billet. I'm nearly positive its just cast aluminum thats machined to look high end. I could see slight pitting in my brand new one when I received it. FYI.

I have the schnell 987 kit and I'm completely happy with it.
It is a bit stiff and notchy when cold, but, oh boy, once it warms up!!!!
It has zero sideways slop to it.

[vijen6]

Hey Clickman,

Thanks for digging up that info for me. Appreciate it mucho.

[ekam]

I've been thinking about this thread a bit. I think the whole hunt for "shorter shift" is a bunch of baloony.

The 997 GT3 and GT3RS both only come with the "standard" shifter with the metal bushings. Just think about that for a sec.

We're not running 10 sec Corvettes or Mustangs that you NEED to save that 0.1 sec of shift time.

When was your last time that you did a heel-and-toe or double-clutch?

I agree the stock 986 shifter has a long throw but 997 shifter fixes it. DONE, end of story. You will not get the same great feeling from shifting in a S2000 because our tranny is at the rear end of the car with the shifter cables going across the engine.

A short shifter basically increase your chance for misshift - not a good thing when people are already losing sleep about IMS...

[clickman]

Ekam, I agree we won't be breaking any shift records with the way the basic design of the shifting is set up in these cars. But at the end of the day it's all about feel and how you like to interface with your car. I just enjoy driving the car that much more with my stock short shifter. You say baloony and I say bologna.

[stephen wilson]

Well, we drive these cars to have fun, and if a different shifter does that, then so be it.

BTW, I heel/toe and double-clutch every time I drive my Boxster. ( or '89 Toyota, or wife's RSX for that matter )

[jmatta]

It's not about slamming gears...go drive your Camaro or Korvet if that's your thing. Been a track instructor for fifteen years and when I get a student who thinks they have to shift fast, we have a good discussion on missed gears and tranny damage.

I also heel 'n toe and double clutch when driving on the street...some things just come naturally.