97 boxster pricing
Bookmark this auction on eBay and then when it ends, let's have a discussion about whether or not the buyer of this car got a good deal or not. It looks like a very clean, relatively low mileage boxster for it's age. No clue as to what's been replaced on it....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190416030715&viewitem= &sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT This car is in Houston, by the way. If anyone here is interested in bidding on it, I am happy to do a free look-over-the-car for you if you like... you know, like a pre pre purchase inspection. |
Sorry if I'm jumping the gun in your discussion, but you'd think, even with the car being in perpetually hot and sunny Houston that they'd at least have a few shots of the car with the top up in their 200+ image photoshoot. :rolleyes: Car looks great, especially inside, but my first concern would be does the top do what it's supposed to both ways without issue, and they're not showing me that.
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Looks very similar in many ways to my 1997 78k mile Box, particularly in the cabin which is nearly identical in terms of trim and wear, barring my gear shift gaiter which is a bit tired.
One thing I will say regards the roof - it's absolutely trivial to get it up and down even if the mechanism has totally lunched itself (as I know from experience!). It's the work of about two minutes to disconnect a few bits and then it goes up and down manually with ease. Short of a video of the thing going up and down, there's isn't much they could post image-wise that would prove the roof works properly. This is something that's easy enough to query and even easier to check on collection and before you fork over the cash. |
There is a reserve price and their website shows an asking price of $9995...
So I'd say any buyer who pays over that got a bad deal. I was driving around today and saw a yellow boxster, so I stopped and talked to the sales guy. Turns out it was an '06 base 5-speed. Previous owner had put cross-drilled rotors front and back, but they were quite rusty. Speed yellow (which I have to admit didn't look as bad as I had always imagined, since I had only seem pictures). Anyway, they were asking $36k - 6k miles on the odometer. |
Interesting "bump" on the driver's door about 1/2 way down the seam between the door and fender. Looks like an outward dent in the door. Can't imagine you could create a dent like that without buckling the fender in. Don't expect a 13 yr old car with 79K to be pristine, but it makes me wonder.... :rolleyes: Digital cameras can boost the price by $3K.
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Husker, good eye! But I think that puckered bit of sheet metal is on the passenger side... or there's a problem on BOTH doors.
Hehehe... if the seller only knew we were scrutinizing his car and listing publicly! Keep those comments a coming. I'm enjoying this. |
Yep, I meant passenger door.
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Detailing a car to look pristine is one thing. Mechanical is another. If that's the original engine and it's a 97'..well you guys know the rest of the story. :cheers:
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jcb, I was thinking the same thing. 80k is right around the time a Porsche motor starts showing IMS issues.
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Who put the 6-speed in there, and where did it come from? :chicken:
Regards, Maurice. |
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So many different opinions on this, and obviously these things can die on you at pretty much any mileage, but personally I'd rather have an early 2.5 on 70k than, say, one on 30k to 40k. I certainly wouldn't have any more confidence in the lower mile car regards the engine grenading. Too many examples of low mile engines going pop for that. For me, the sweetspot for buying an early 2.5 would probably be around 60k with a new clutch and RMS...Any fewer miles than that and I would actually be more nervous about it, not less. |
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Hey, Maurice, I think I'm more confused than you are...I don't see anything about a 6-speed, or a pic showing a 6-speed shifter... :confused: |
The seller should have spent more money on the house so he can get the cars off the street!!
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IMS wasn't a problem on the 97' 2.5L. The 98-99' had cracking sleeve issues. The 97's has some issue like a porous block or something,I don't remember anymore. IMS issues mainly started when Porsche redesigned it for 00'+,mainly the 3.2L on the 986S and 3.4L on the 996 have the issue. People say it's a major problem on the 2.5L & 2.7L,it's not,go on the Rennlist 996 NA section,you'll see how much of a problem it really is. (proportionality speaking) (not that people have said the 2.5L and 2.7L don't have IMS failures....just that out of all the shops I've talked to,all the post on all these boards on the net.....the 2.5L and 2.7L hardly have IMS failures). |
Without repeating some of the earlier comments.
1) Missing the center glass between the seats. 2) IIRC those calipers should be black on the '97 Base boxster. 3) The front bumper is crooked. The lines around the front trunk are slightly off but the line where the passenger side turn lamp meets the fender really catches my eye. 4) If I were to buy this car, I would really like to know what the tire treads look like. Not bashing the car. It could be a fine automobile, but if I were to buy it, I would like the details around 2-4 and would note I'd have to buy the center glass. |
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The 2.5 seem to be affected more with RMS leaks than IMS issues. Some 97s also had issues with porous block castings that usually showed up early in their lives. In fact I have not read of a single porousity issue occurring in early motors since I’ve been following Boxsters starting around 2003. And some later 2.5s had the slipped sleeve issue. This was in the 1998-99 range, but I’m not sure the exact manufacturing dates that were affected. |
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as far as prices in my area , those cars are 10 to 14k all day long. I would not buy from a dealer , look for a first or second owner so you have some history with the car. Most dealers in my area buy these types of cars from the local dealer auctions. large dealership takes it in on trade sends it right to the auction , **************** bag second hand lot buys it and tries to make a profit and does not know a thing about the car. watch out for lines that say , v6 , rides like its on rails and sport model these guys are clowns and 90% of the time the cars are junk.
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Nicely put Jacabean.
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And good catch on the headlight, I got so distracted by the lines that I missed that altogether. |
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I'm betting the center windscreen is nowhere to be found. Same goes with other bits of the interior like the ashtray, etc.
The buyers rarely get these things from cars bought at auction, and if they do, many times they take them off the car and sell them on eBay after the car has been sold to some unsuspecting schmuck. I was an unsuspecting schmuck five years ago when I bought my car off ebay. My car had been raped before it was sold to me. Plus, it was a worn out car that had been given no attention for years. The only thing on the car that didn't need to be fixed or replaced was the motor... which had been swapped a couple of months prior by the PO (before the dealer bought it from the Miami auction). |
Bidding has ended on this item.
Item:1997 Porsche Boxster Ended: Jul 19, 201005:34:43 PDT Bid history: 12 bids Current bid: US $8,399.00 Reserve pricenot met Member Id: t***t( 97) US $8,399.00 Jul-17-10 12:04:56 PDT Member Id: a***a( 142) US $8,299.00 Jul-17-10 14:57:03 PDT Member Id: a***a( 142) US $7,700.00 Jul-17-10 14:56:15 PDT Member Id: k***7( 23) US $6,200.00 Jul-16-10 07:44:05 PDT Member Id: s***c( 84) US $5,000.00 Jul-13-10 15:51:59 PDT Member Id: 5***o( 135) US $4,500.00 Jul-13-10 10:16:41 PDT Member Id: e***d( 2 ) US $3,000.00 Jul-10-10 15:44:01 PDT Member Id: t***o( 0 ) US $3,000.00 Jul-12-10 17:42:23 PDT Member Id: t***o( 0 ) US $2,500.00 Jul-12-10 17:42:05 PDT Member Id: t***o( 0 ) US $2,100.00 Jul-12-10 17:41:41 PDT Member Id: t***o( 0 ) US $2,050.00 Jul-12-10 17:40:34 PDT Member Id: c***a( 271) US $2,000.00 Jul-09-10 18:56:14 PDT |
Where it ended sounds like what it should have gone for, maybe less. The mileage is lower than it could be, but also higher than it could be. I guess we'll see if it pops up again with a lower reserve. :rolleyes:
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Regarding the dual row IMS bearing vs the single row: FWIW, my 2000 Boxster S was built with the dual row bearing. So, not ALL 3.2L have the single row bearing.
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