02-23-2005, 09:19 PM
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The Cayman Islands are where crooks hide their money in phony corporations and secret bank accounts.
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02-24-2005, 12:43 AM
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What's in a name? The top doesn't go down. What's the point?
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02-24-2005, 04:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard EVO
The Cayman Islands are where crooks hide their money in phony corporations and secret bank accounts.
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Wrong, the Caymans opened their doors and books to the US Govt in the late 90's. You can't hide money there. :ah:
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02-24-2005, 04:45 AM
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So I'm thinking that when folks learn how to modify this new coupe version, and add some more HP, and get it into competitions, it'll show its big brother what's up.
I have the strangest feeling that anyone owning a Cayman will get nothing but vile sneers from 911 owners.
And I agree...I wish that the boxster could have a bit of this extra power.
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02-24-2005, 04:59 AM
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I have a hard time believing that anything short of a GT3, GT2, or Turbo driver is going to be able to stay along side a Cayman S long enough to get a vile sneer in. :dance:
A few quick questions I've had floating in my head this morning:
Is this yet another attempt by Porsche to kill the 911?
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Is this an attempt by Porsche to kill the low end of the 911 family? (i.e keep the 4S level and up)
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02-24-2005, 06:57 AM
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I agree Q. It really doesn't make sense to buy a more expensive car that is less capable in practically every way. The base Carrera will still have 25 more hp than the Cayman S, but the extra heft of the 911 will pretty much nullify that advantage. The only case I see for buying a 911 now would be for the back seat, but I'm willing to bet the back seats in most owners' cars don't see much use anyway. That, and there will be the people that just have to have a 911 because of the heritage and prestige that the name carries.
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02-24-2005, 07:07 AM
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The Cayman S will be what the 911 used to be. The 911 has been gradually going upmarket with models like GT3, GT2, uprated Turbo model (I forget what this is called). a 997 S is about a $90,000 car with a relatively few options added.
So if the Cayman S can be available in the $60,000 range, it will fill the place in the Porsche lineup once occupied by the 993 and earlier 911s, back when there was a 928 GT or S4. The 911 is now in the spot previously occupied by the 928, but at a much higher price.
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Ernest Hemingway
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02-24-2005, 07:53 AM
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The first model of the Cayenne was the "S", then came the Turbo, then the "standard" Cayenne with the V6.
So maybe we will be treated to a Cayman Turbo a few years down the road, followed by the standard Cayman, with the 2.7 Boxster motor?
I suspect our beloved Box will remain the entry-level Porsche, but 911 buyers had better brace themselves for some hefty price increases, to put a little distance between it and the $65K Cayman (S).
It is always comforting to know that Porsche continues to set profitability records, year after year.
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02-24-2005, 10:47 AM
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I found this with a Yahoo search on "Porsche Cayman S" this morning. I think this is an official pick, but not sure. It sure looks like a 911.
Here's a link: http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000627033030
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2004 Audi S4 (B6) sedan -- bone stock
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"There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games."
Ernest Hemingway
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02-24-2005, 12:00 PM
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I know what you mean. If it wasn't for the intake grill on the side, I would've thought I was looking at a 911.
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02-24-2005, 12:32 PM
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Only guessing at performance
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I know what you mean. If it wasn't for the intake grill on the side, I would've thought I was looking at a 911.
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I would anticipate doing the 0-60 in 4.9-5sec or lower not by much. The 987 S is 5.1 secs. then the top speed is has to break the 170 mph. What do you think? I still prefer the convertible. My opinion is that the engine eventually will find itself in the 987.
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02-24-2005, 01:37 PM
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If the cayman comes with an optional 3.4L and the option is not offered for the boxster, Porsche will definately hear about it from disgruntled boxster enthusiasists.
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02-28-2005, 03:34 PM
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It Still Is A Hardtop!!!
I don't know about the rest of you guys, but when I went looking for my Boxster, the caymen would never have been a consideration because it's not a convertible!!!! The two cars simply can't be compared...I'll take 0-60 in 5 1/2 (or whatever) seconds and go cart-like drives up to Skyline Blvd with the top down anyday over 0-60 in 5 seconds in a hardtop.
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