11-06-2008, 03:47 PM
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Transmission Flush
Guys,
I'm setting up my winter projects (doing the research now) and I want to flush the manual transmission on my 01S. I've seen a couple posts that were from 2005-2006 about using 3 qts of Redline MT90.
I once had a 1991 300ZX (loved that car) and I changed the transfluid on it several times. I started with Redline MT90, then Royal Purple and then a thinner weight Redline. Since my 300ZX had synchro issues (clucking in 2nd), the thinner Redline did the job... On the 300ZX the fill plug was on the top of the transmission and the drain was on the bottom, which was real easy to find.
Does anyone have a link to the manual transmission flush, specifically the drain and fill plugs?
Would you recommend 3 qts of the Redline MT90 for the Boxster?
My Boxster is 2001S with 11K mikes and has never had the transmission flushed. It's a little sticky shifting when the engine is cold but is ok when warm.
Any insight is appreciated.
-Steve
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11-06-2008, 05:00 PM
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Nevermind, I think I found what I was looking for on this thread:
http://www.renntech.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=7060
-Steve
Where do I find the special tool for the transmission drain plug?
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11-07-2008, 03:36 AM
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Thanks! That was easy!
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11-07-2008, 04:19 AM
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Is there an advantage to changing trans fluid at such low mileage? The maintenance schedule puts the fluid change at 90k miles, but says nothing about length of time. My '02 S has slightly more miles than Steve's (15k) and was just curious.
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11-07-2008, 08:59 AM
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There really isn't an advantage to changing the tranny fluid 'early' unless it's to upgrade to a better fluid. Tranny fluid operates in a 'closed' system and isn't subject to the type of breakdown motor oil is - no fuel or combustion products to mix with it. Also, tranny fluid actually works a little better once 'aged' a little.
In cars w/ yellow metal balks/synchros, changing too frequently can actually hurt these parts because when new, tranny fluid can slightly attack these parts, but once it starts to break-in, it undergoes a chemical change which is more friendly to the internals. Tranny fluid contains a lot of sulphur compounds to better withstand compression and shear and these breakdown over time which is why used tranny fluid has that strong 'rotten egg' smell to it.
The service interval is spec'd to the type of fluid used - to switch it before it becomes too acidic and to drain any fine metal shavings (normal) which have accumulated at the drain plug (usually magnetic). These s/b a fine paste, not actual chunks. If you find 'chunks' see - Troubleshooting...lol!
But, there are probably better fluids out there than OEM MB1. Redline MT/90 is a very good fluid and while I've not personally used Royal Purple tranny fluid, I have a lot of respect for their products too.
When changing, be sure the tranny is warm which means a 10-15 min. run prior to draining it (90W takes a bit of time to warm), the fluid s/b Hot so be cautious.
Also, be sure to open the Fill Plug BEFORE draining it! Not only will this ease the draining, but if The Fill Plug's siezed, or the threads galled, you don't want to find this out after you've already drained it, you want to be CERTAIN that you can refill it.
Last edited by Lil bastard; 11-11-2008 at 01:06 AM.
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11-08-2008, 05:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chitowndad
3 qts of Redline MT90.
-Steve
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I tried redline in my 00' S and it didn't shift smoothly. I tried different mixes/weights of redline also (75W90 NS, MTL, etc.). I have had fantastic luck with redline on other car trannys (many makes) but for the S the only thing that shifted well for me was the original fluid form the dealer.
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11-09-2008, 03:11 AM
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DON'T TRY ANYTHING OTHER THEN OEM STUFF ON 986 S 6-SPDS. I've had Swepco 201 in mine which I was promised by the local Porsche Racing shop and other indy dealers that it's the best stuff out there for Porsches. That may be true on other Porsches not the M96 6-spds though. It's a pain to shift when the tranny is cold. Once it's warm it's fine but I hate when it's not warm. I will be switching back to OEM when I have the time.
I've seen good stuff on Redline MT-90 on 6-spds though. Personally on my 5-spd I loved the MT-90 but after thsi Swepco 201 on the 6-spd I'm going to back to OEM for good. Lol the Swepco stuff was twice the price of OEM as well.
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11-09-2008, 05:34 AM
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Really? I was about to order 3 qts of Redline MT90. I liked Redline on my 300ZX but if you guys think OEM is better, I'll reconsider.
When it's cold my shift is stiff but not that bad so I guess I'm either being too picky or looking for a winter project next month. I'll put the boxster up on stands for the winter months so that gives me plenty of time to mess around between December and March.
Thanks again, I'll look into OEM.
-Steve
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11-09-2008, 08:33 AM
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I changed mine at about 40,000 miles to Castrol synthetic. I did it early to clear out any metal shavings/particles in the oil - basically being conservative. I ran the Castrol for about 5,000 miles and didn't like it. Poor shifting when cold. At 45,000 miles I switched over to Mobil 1 and it's been okay, a little better.
Understand that you don't really "flush" the transmission so much as drain the old oil out and then put in new stuff, like an engine oil change.
I don't understand the question about the special tool to remove the drain plug though. Disregard what Lil Bastard posted - that tool is for the 5 speed transmission. With the 6 speed transmission from the S you just need a 10 mm allen socket (available at Sears, Harbor Freight, etc.).
Kirk
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11-09-2008, 01:10 PM
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Thanks Kirk,
Ah crap, I ordered that tool and it comes in like 1-2 days so that was pissing $20 down the drain!
Oops.
-Steve
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