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I thought your children were older? And whose car is that?

Cute... How much does the labor cost? ;)

Hey Sammy, I have been shopping for a 1996 or 1997 Carrera 993 Turbo since February. This is one of the cars I like, and received the photo from the owner today. Thought it was cute!

Yes, my daughters are 10 and 7.5!

993's are definately the best air-cooled 911 appearance wise and performance as well. I want one some day to add to the stable.

thats a very nice carrera :D You gonna buy it :dance:

I will be buying a 993 Turbo. Just don't know which one right now. The buying process requires a lot of due diligence. I have done 2 PPI's and passed on both cars. I am test driving two on Tuesday. I am doing another PPI on Monday. If you make a mistake, it could easily cost you $15-20 large.

The actual hunt is a lot of fun!

[QUOTE=bmussatti]I will be buying a 993 Turbo. Just don't know which one right now. The buying process requires a lot of due diligence. I have done 2 PPI's and passed on both cars. I am test driving two on Tuesday. I am doing another PPI on Monday. If you make a mistake, it could easily cost you $15-20 large.

The actual hunt is a lot of fun![/QUOTE

i agree searching is always fun, if you dont mind me asking how much are they going for? or how much are you willing to spend???

hope you find a great one :cheers:

Blkboxster, like most Porsches, pricing is all over the board. I lot depends on the things you would expect; condition, mileage, options, mods (some increase some decrease) and history.

I have looked at cars from $60-90. Cars with 12,000 miles and cars with 40,000 miles.

Now is a great time to buy, with the current economy. Sellers are also becoming more realistic. I want a good, solid car. Not a garage queen or museum piece. I plan to drive it, like I do the Boxster.

We'll see what happens. No rush.

Heck, I could buy a 2006-2007 (soon a 2008) Carrera S for about the same money, and get a warranty. This is actually an option for me, but I really want the old body style, air cooled engine and turbo power.

But, the potential costs involved with a +12 year old Porsche is very daunting.

Agreed, on my brothers 87 just changing the clutch costs upwards of $2200. Plus the maintenance is much more regular, parts are more expensive, and so is the labor.

fragdude, I hear ya brotha!

The clutch on the 993 turbo is engine out service and $3,000 easy. A valve job is also engine out and starts at $12k...plus the "while you are in there" stuff added on.

An oil change at a well respected indy shop in Chicago is +$330. It requires 2 oil filters, removal of an under body engine bay panel, the right rear wheel and part of the wheel well liner and 11-12 quarts of full synthetic oil(they recommend Royal Purple 15W40). And you have to add the oil real-real slowly.

That's the funny thing about 993's. The nice ones are selling for the same as 996 turbo. MMmmm..280hp or 415hp? Is the 993 worth it????

Adam, a lot of the nice 993 NA's are selling for MORE than a 996 Turbo.

A 993 Turbo sells for much more than a 996 Turbo on average.

I am only looking at 993 Turbos.

I too love the 993 body, air cooled engine note as well as the "old-school" interior. They are gorgeous!

The cost of the cars and the maintenance is crazy! Sounds like you are well informed and on top of it, so I know you will pick a great one.

The dilemma: how are you going to decide which to drive?

Looking forward to seeing the pictures and hearing the stories when you pull the trigger.

ddb

Bmussatti, I foresee...large bills in your future...and much enjoyment!
:cheers:

i thought it was 400hp???

I'm pretty sure the 993 Turbo has 400 hp, there is also an "S" edition that is extremely rare that has a bit more though

yep thats what i thought, its a monster :cheers:

Yes, the 993 Twin Turbo has 400 HP @ 5,750 rpm and 400 ft lb @ 4,500 rpm. The curb weight is 3,307 pounds.

The 993 Twin Turbo S has 424 HP. They only brought about 181 units to the USA.

Both cars are AWD- most people don't realize this.

Porsche brough about 1,200 993 Turbos into the USA in 1996 and about another 600 in 1997. There are right now only about 80-90 active cars for sale in the USA. The sad part is that the strength of the Euro has many of these cars going to over-seas buyers. So, there are becoming less and less cars available in the USA.

only a jump of 24hp, thats nothing, you have driven the 993 turbo right ? if so how was it :D

I know the S also had some cosmetic changes like holes in the 3/4 panels for the intercoolers instead of them being ontop of the engine like in the regular car. But you know Porsche, they sometimes are quite modest about their performance figures and 24 extra hp from porsche can mean quite a difference if its in the right places...
That said, 993 turbo is one of my dream cars. I saw one last new years in Aspen, absolutely stunning.

You know.. as nice as 993 s were, modern technology usually wins out. My next door neighbor has a 993. Ever since he has driven my car, he always says how he cant believe how nice it is and how nicely it drives. He feels his car is under powered and not nearly as balanced. I think if you are going to get one you should go for the Turbo, or first gen. C4S. Dont get me wrong, I love the look of the car and if I could afford an air cooled to add to the collection, I would in a minute.

By the way, my neighbor said the cost of ownership on his 993 is way higher than the 996 and 986s of today.

We need more money so that we dont have to make these kinds of decisions...
The only decision should be "What am I going to drive today?".

When I was done (and still do) I looked like this guy:

:D

Fragdude, actually the ducts built into the rear panels on the 993TTS are all "SHOW" and no "GO". They do absolutely nothing. They are not vented to the intercooler...not even to the rear brakes.

But, yes, they do look very cool!

On the 996TT and 997TT...that's a different story. They are functional beyond looks.

Hey DDB, excellent question! And, I think I have an answer, becuase this is something you must consider in the process. Mainly because the Turbo does not do well sitting around. It needs to be driven.

I only drive my Boxster once (maybe twice) per week. Only on nice summer days April through late October. Never to work. But when I do drive it, I am gone for 6-8 hours and can rip through 300-400 miles no problem.

With the Turbo, I would drive it into November, maybe December and then try again for a nice sunny winter day here and there in February and March. It would probably sit most of January. The AWD aspect of the car and the fact that it is a coupe would give me a longer driving season.

So I would alternate weekends with the cars, to keep both happy.

I remember reading several months ago that one of the Forum members here really looks forward to Fridays, because he/she will take the Boxster into the office on a nice day. I would love to do that too, but I personally feel very strange driving a "Porsche" to work. The last thing I need is my boss or customers seeing this type of car. I know this is my own personal 'hang-up' but that is just the way I feel. In fact, most people I know outside of a few neighbors, people here, and a few immediate family members, nobody knows I have a Boxster. So, with that said, I would like to drive the Turbo to work on office-only-days (40 miles round trip) on nice days, and I could "justify" it to myself (or others if 'questioned') that, "It is a 12-13-14 year old car!"...and catch less attention and scrutiny. Maybe not. But, it works for me.

Better read this month's excellence first, finally someone told the truth about Porsche's superior mid engine platform. I like the 993 too, it's beautiful, but I think I would get the Cayman S instead.

the thing about the cayman S is that its so typical, the 993 turbo is a rare beauty

:cheers:

Yeah the 993 turbos have that much. I was referring to the NA 993's. The early ones had about 270 then the later "varioram" cars had about 280. I didn't know he was looking at 993 turbos. Those are big bucks.

That kinda is a bummer. I thought porsche was above that kinda stuff...oh well, I've only seen a turbo S once in person and I had no idea what it was at that time.