Buy Jerry's Turbo S
 

The true value of a 1997 Turbo S is far beyond the 82k stated in the article. I have been looking for a pristine 1997 Turbo S for almost 2 years now and cant find anything for sale under 150k. That is one truly amazing car. Anyone willing to sell one that is in AMAZING condition with under 10k miles for under 100k is a fool.

I would take a 1997 Turbo S over any other car in the world.......no hesitation at all.

I don't get why if a celebrity owned a car it should be worth any more. So, he farted in that seat so it's special? Who actually cares? Not me...

$225K, no way but, some guy will find it special because it was Seinfelds. The only thing special about that S is the color.

Yes $225k could be had easily for that.

Try looking on KBB for a 97' 993 Turbo S.....it even says there are too few to asses a value to it.

I saw 1 993 Turbo S,it was at a PCA meet a few years ago. Seal Grey and it looked like it just left the showroom,that thing drew more than the Carrera GT not too far away from it.

I think I read on another board that this car was owned by a dentist, who just happened to be named Jerry Seinfeld. Expensive either way though :D

Well, there are several reasons this car is special.

• 1. It's #1 in production for '97.
  
  2. It's a special one-off color.
  
  3. It had only 8k mi. on it.
  
  4. It was owned by Jerry Seinfeld - it was NOT owned by a Dentist of the same name.

The article points fun at the irony if someone payed for the provenance of it being owned by Jerry Seinfeld the comedian, only to find out later that it was owned by a Dentist w/ the same name.

It was not, it is genuinely Jerry Seinfeld, the Comedian's car, because there were several articles written at the time which stated that he was getting the 1st production '97 Turbo S. Plus, it would be too easy to document this for a Dealer to try to falsify the car's history.

This is how many Urban Myths begin - someone with poor reading skills misinterprets the article and then goes shooting his mouth off all over the net :eek: - READING IS FUNDAMENTAL! :)
:cheers:

That color is absolutely horrid. Seinfeld should have his head examined for ordering it, knowing his car would be on the market forever until the only other person in the world with the cash and same taste in colors would pony up for the car.

However, when you're a multi-millionaire, who cares about resale value?

Don't forget, only 182 1997 993 Turbo S's were sent to the USA! And only about <2,000 total 993 Turbos (non- S) were sent to the USA for 1996-1997. I think it was about 1,200 1996's and about 600 1997's.

I am looking to purchase a 1996 or 1997 993 Turbo. They are out there. Just look on autotrader. They list over 50 of them. They are really holding their value. New they averaged about $110K. Now they average about $80K. Pretty amazing.

My dad bought a 97' 993 Turbo a few months ago. Paid $82K with 9K miles on it. The original sticker was $127K. Their value is on the increase again.

The 993 Turbo has held its value very well. Obviously the S is a collectors car but, at $225K I don't see it ever selling for more than that. Wouldn't be a wise investment from that standpoint.

The fact that Jerry Seinfeld owned that car should HURT the value!
We all know the REAL genius behind the Senifeld Show was Larry David.
Well at least Seinfeld's bad taste in clothes and hair didn't extend to his wife....She's cute! :cheers:

I still don't understand why the 993's are so valuable. It's not down to performance. There are other Porsches that are rare too they just happen to be ugly.

p.s.
Are those Litronics, Ceramic Brakes (just painted yellow?) and wheels even stock for a 993? Those type of trendy mods usually water down value.

PL

The Litronics were stock on the 993 Turbo S maybe even on the Turbo too. Ceramic brakes were option but looking at the pictures they do seem to be the real deal.

The Turbo S is turly one amazing car. Just can't get over it.

The 993 Turbos S had those yellow painted calipers from the factory. They are not PCCB's. Just painted calipers. Those are also the stock wheels. The 993 Turbo and 993 Turbo S had standard Litronics from the factory.

Standard 18" hollow spoke turbo twists but with a different brilliant silver finish.

The 993 Turbo S basically had every desirable 993 option on it.

You know I'm looking at this 993 Turbo and I'm thinking even if they hadn't gotten rid of the air cooling, it would still be way up in value. I don't think most people bidding up the prices on these cars have ever driven an aircooled 993. There's no need to spend $100-200K to get an air-cooled Carrea, you can get an older model air cooled 911 for way less than these 993's.
So I'm inclined to think its all about that front end styling. The rear of the car doesn't really stand out anymore than the back of a very nice looking 996.
If Porsche doesn't decide to incorporate the Boxster concept prototype styling into the 1999 Carrera, then these 993 depreciate just like any other 911.
The 993 guys should thank us! and at the same time the 996 guys should thank us for saving the whole ship from going under. If that had happened those 993's would have been worth a mint.

Aren't only the Heads water-cooled on the 993 Turbo and TurboS? Or am I wrong?

The 993 Turbo and Turbo S are air/oil cooled. They hold 12 quarts of full synthetic.

PL, it's as simple and as pure as SUPPLY & DEMAND can be. There are many more people who want to buy the cars then there are people wanting to part with them. Less than 2,000 brought to the USA.

Did I mention +400 HP, all wheel drive, 0-60 in about 3.8 seconds...and that sound! :)

I think I just wet myself!

DAMN THIS THREAD!!!!

I have been looking for a 1997 Turbo S for too long and almost gave up hope until this thread was posted. Now my passion is on the rise again!

TriGem, there are 4 or 5 Turbo S's on autotrader, so if you are serious, I think you could get one of them for $150K. Be careful though, a couple I have seen are converted "S" cars, ...not from the factory.

Two 993 Turbos I had my eye on, sold this week. You got to be ready to pull the trigger when the right car comes up because the hot ones get sold quickly.

I have test driven two already. Neither of them I would buy.

Hate to say it, especially on this forum, but if I were to pay 150k for a car....it would have a different prancing horse on the emblem....

Today, you could easily buy 2 Ferrari's from 1996-1997 for the same price one 1997 Turbos S will cost you. There is a reason for that! :)

Care to elaborate on that? I have been in one and it's the way these cars should be,very plain and low bodyfat. There isn't much to them.

I haven't driven one but would love to hear about your experiences though. More importantly why wouldn't you buy either one you drove?

Hey Blink, good question. One I drove, about a week ago, was pretty beaten and trashed. 40k miles, modded suspension, and filthy interior. The second one I test drove was very-very nice but had a few body panels that were replaced with carbon fiber. It also had about 40k miles, very-very clean.

Don't forget, you are also buying the "seller" too. Not just the car. So everything needs to come together. I fully expect the process to take several months. And sometimes the journey is more fun than the final destination.

I really want a very stock car. No mods.

The car is amazing. Sounds great. Easy to drive. Scary fast!

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=241010392&dealer_id=1659988&car_yea r=1997&model=911TURBO&num_records=&systime=&make2= &start_year=1997&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&engine= &certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_ty pe=both&distance=0&marketZipError=false&search_lan g=en&make=POR&keywords_display=&color=&page_locati on=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&d efault_sort=priceDESC&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&so rt_type=priceDESC&address=22066&advanced=&end_year =2000&doors=&transmission=&max_price=&cardist=2271

maybe i should sell all my cars for it :D

993 Turbo is an amazing car to drive. If you keep the rpms low, it drives like an n/a car. But, when you put your foot in it, it wakes up quick. One thing I liked about it is you can actually hear the turbos and they sound good. 996 Turbo just doesn't feel as sporty, it's almost too refined.

What makes the 993 superior to the 964 and previous 911's. The exterior styling, arguably the best looking 911 ever made and they're the last of the air cooled. Some say it's the last true 911.

Very good point, however since my garage could only handle one car it would be of the 360 variety...which is obviously comparing apples to oranges to a Turbo S...just sayin....

I cant believe that car is over 10 years old....seems like yesterday...

Hey IowaS, right now on autotrader, there are about 260 Ferrari 360's for sale. That's more than the number of Porsche Turbo S in the USA. Right now there are probably less than 8 Turbo S's for sale.

You would have no trouble finding a Ferrari for sale. But what about that "engine-out" maintenance schedule! :eek:

I was under the impression with the 360 or 430 they had figured out how to keep the engine in the bay and service it. Keeping the cost out of the $10K range.

TriGem, here ya go:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1997-Porsche-911-Turbo-S-Black-on-Black-Very-Rare_W0QQitemZ320231808031QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item 320231808031

regardless...either would make me happy. :dance:

Well, at $225K, Jerry's car is really a bargain, but only if you refrain from putting any more miles on it.

Unlike a Sinatra, Streisand, Andretti, or McQueen car, people will soon forget who the hell Jerry Seinfeld was.

The only way you'll preserve it's value is NOT to drive it.

At that point, it's really an investment, and no longer a car.