Yeah Grizz, I am with you. This place is a means of entertainment while at work for me too. I also appreciate that members are of all ages, all economic states, and all parts of the world. That way, when I do come on, someone doesn't say the exact same thing I was going to say!

On that note, CFOs, I doubt many boxster owners consider themsleves the elite. I don't notice too much of that here. If we were a ferrari forum, I would understand the back patting.

Everytime I see the letter "S" I get jelous though.

phewwww.....and here I thought yesterday put me on your **************** list.

:cheers:

Naa dude, c'mon. Over what? A traffic court case? Who cares? One of the problems with writing, I guess, is that you can't read body language or hear tone of voice. Check this out. This is how human communication breaks down percentage-wise:

"7 percent verbal (words)

38 percent vocal (volume, pitch, rhythm, etc)

55 percent body movements (mostly facial expressions)"

This applies to a verbal conversation, but I have no reason to believe that a written conversation is much different. If that's true, it means that by writing to one another, we're probably only receiving about 7 percent of the message the other is trying to convey. If we were in a bar somewhere, and you were paying attention to me instead of that little hottie in the low rise jeans, you would be able to "read" much more of my communication and realize that I was just making a point in a friendly argument.

On this end, that exchange was no more serious than I'm an Eagles fan and your Raiders suck.

Agreed, tone of voice and body language play a big part.

For you Griz ( no malice intended :D ) :

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r...nk_Monkey3.jpg

Nick

Heh, so I see another person has learned the fact that this forum is not-so-nice if you:

1. Complain about a ticket.
2. Complain about the environment.
3. Disagree with the moderators.
4. Complain about your car in any way.

It's made me rather reluctant to participate in any way other than a purely technical discussion.

Nick, no way! Grizzly only likes chocolate frosted or cinnamon & sugar. :)

Boston Cream, baby!!!!

Wow!!

Where the hell is Dr. Phil? (probably on the Ferrari BB , I'll bet he kept one) This thread rules. This is how I felt when I bailed, frankly, the place seems a lot cooler now and everyone saying their peace is cathartic, nothing bad there.

Oh BTW, without causing the equivalent of a BB Katrina, where's Mr. "happy motoring" America's favorite vehicle megalomaniac?

Gone, baby. Poof. Like Keyser Soze

your all on my ignore list now!!!! Happy motoring! :) lol

Quote:

"Regrettably, my car doesn't leak, all the locks work, the CEL doesn't come on, no one has stolen my headlights...none of that stuff."

Originally posted by Grizzly.

"Regrettably"? I know your back's ahurtin' man but I fear you may need to seek out professional help at a whole 'nother level, Grizz. "Regrettably"?!? That's just crazy talk! :D (<---body language)

Hey Bogg, I don't know what this is about cause I didn't read all the threads but your posts are good stuff. So stick around. If it's about getting a thread locked..... I don't trust anyone unless they had a few threads locked up.... LOL

F**k rules !! Scr*w the establishment.... The Man's always trying to oppress us... [raises the Jolly Roger]

If your not pushing the envelope, on the edge, you're wasting space.

Concerning technology break through I read somewhere in Excellence that Dr. Porsche once said "if you have not failed you have not gone far enough", I'm sure I had threads locked for standing up to the guy who is apparently gone now.

I have 2 under my belt.

The last post I remember reading of his was this regarding his gambling expertise and all the money he made in Vegas. It seemed like he wanted us to believe he was the inspiration for James Bond or something. Hi I'm Jim, I'm richer than you, smarter than you and have cooler toys than you, oh and I stole "happy motoring" from Esso for my own home use.

Oh, that was early on. You missed some good ones.

I've been the cause of some thread lockage too, but I deserved it. :o

Yeah i remember that thread, the weird thing about that was that a day before he was arguing with half the forum and then afterwards that "Feel Good Thread" about winning buttloads of money in Las Vegas and at the same time acting as if he was no big deal cause he doesnt need it lol

Well, I don't know about that Grizz, the threshold for said lockage was always quite low, especially if you contrast it against what goes on at other BB's.

The last one with Jim and I that was locked was cause of Jim and the forum moderators let him have it in that thread just before locking it... Good Times :D

The best part was bragging about going to see Celine Dion. If I was kidnapped at gunpoint and forced to go to a Celine Dion concert, I would beg my abductors to trigger the explosives they had strapped to my chest.

No doubt, I hear she has a permanent gig at gitmo, lots of good intell has come from her concerts.

Rambling stream of conciousness from one of the co-owners:

Where is this thread headed? Should I close it? Will someone will be offended and then start another thread? Why are they picking on a person who isn't even here anymore? Isn't that crossing the line of good taste? So has Boggtown actually left or are all the posts symptomatic of some other root problem? Perhaps we shouldn't allow any posts about police, getting tickets, the military, global warming, anything off topic? Would the forum members prefer that? Have we abused our power? Is it always this easy being an owner? Is it Friday yet?

Nobody has picked on Jim to a level that closely rivals his own ventures, just catching up. If Jim was concerned about his public perception he might still be here, you really do reap what you sew in this life. To answer your question I think you must search your own soul and ask yourself whether you wish to run a BB like a third world country or like one adults in a free country use. Somebody ate a bullet today to enable me to even type this, I hope people don't ever forget that.

I for one can not understand why you guys (the moderators) do some of the things you do. I am one of the biggest capitalists in the world so I would not dispute your right to lock down whatever thread you want and when to do it. But really...

Should you close it? Absolutely not. It is not hurting anyone. And I am sure someone will just start another similar thread like they always do.

Why are they picking on a person who isn't even here anymore? Isn't that crossing the line of good taste? In light of all the crap you guys let him get away with I don't think it is in bad taste at all. People who feel that it is in bad taste can elect not to read the thread. The reason why everyone is talking about him is because he was a tremendous a$$ who constantly argued with everyone and made a lot of people feel too intimidated to post in disagreement. Now that the wicked witch is gone we can voice our true opinion without fear of unfair retaliation. Except for maybe from the moderators (just kidding of course). But seriously-why you let him go on so long and beat so many people up is beyond me. I know I am not the only person who felt like you guys were protecting him. Good riddance to bad trash. Happy Motoring my a$$.

So has Boggtown actually left or are all the posts symptomatic of some other root problem? I certainly hope not. I enjoyed reading his posts. I think that he was just venting his frustration. In my opinion the probl;em is that some really popular threads get shut down too quickly.

Perhaps we shouldn't allow any posts about police, getting tickets, the military, global warming, anything off topic? I think it is silly not to allow these kinds of posts. After all they do seem to be the most popular until they are shut down....

Have we abused our power? Absolutely but it's your board to do what you want with. Irregardless people will continue to read and post here including myself. We will just miss the entertainment.

Is it always this easy being an owner? Yes. And as your business grows it gets even easier. More people=more problems.

Is it Friday yet? No.

Hey man, great to hear from you.

I couldn't possibly agree more with what der Geist has said. I freely admit that I am one of the worst offenders, when it comes to "picking on" our former member. You'll remember, I hope, that I am not coming out of the shadows now that he is gone, but that I also did battle with him while he was here. He was a bully, who spent every day torturing people from behind his keyboard and bolstering his own perceived superiority, by any means necessary. xusmnimij couldn't have it more right than when he said you reap what you sow...and he likely doesn't even know how it all ended. I believe the reason he was allowed to get away with as much as he did was because he seemed to many to have a wealth of automotive knowledge (whether you wanted to hear about it or not). Unfortunately, as some members found out the hard way, much of his automotive knowledge was stored in his ass, as opposed to in his head. Members paid for unnecessary repairs and/or did actual damage to their vehicles by following some of his incorrect or flat-out fabricated advice.

I think the board has been improved dramatically since our boy's demise. When he and I used to square off, my PM box would light up like a Christmas tree with the cheers of onlookers. If I miss anything, I miss that. If my occasional mention of his name, his foibles, or whatever is in bad taste, just tell me. I'll never bring it up again.

As for the off topic posts, you're asking the same question I was yesterday. I truly didn't know the answer. What the responders seemed to say to me was, that we should be a community of people with a common interest, who can talk about whatever comes up, like a bunch of good friends grabbing a beer after the softball game. Will we always agree? Of course not, but that feels comfortable to me. 7000 votes to go...

Hey Griz...

We need to get you a talk show of some sort. I think Don Imus' spot is still open.

As for the PM box lighting up, I'll try and load it up with photos of strippers for you.

Thanks man. You're always looking out for me.

I'd need a talk show I can do from bed. Do you think they could roll me out on stage and I could just lay there? That's what they do with Rosie O'Donnell, right?

I'm so friggin' bored I can't stand it. Can you tell?

Grizz, your assumption is correct, I don't know what finally toppled the Al Jimkieda regime of terror. Please PM me sometime and fill me in, that way no further public damage is done to our former member.

LOL -- Gold! how bout Jimsama Mn Laden

If the Jim you're talking about is the Jim I'm thinking of, I believe he sold his Boxster. I saw him post on another forum awhile back stating he got tired of living with the potential mechanical failure from faulty engineering, so he sold it.

The only reason I remember it is because it seemed so anti Porsche from a guy who seemed to spend a lot of time on Porsche forums.

But I might be mistaken.

I think folks can say just about anything on a forum and it's not going to bother me at all. I like all the different perspectives. The self righteous stuff does get pretty boring and I ignore it. Just like in real life. LOL

Poet was it a Lotus site? Big Jim claimed he had an Eprit too. Given the PM I just read it's unclear what is or isn't true in almost anything he authored.

might have been.... but not sure why I'd be on the Lotus site must have been the other big Porsche site..... he used same name as on this forum... knows a lot about mechanical stuff

Chances are it was him if it was the same name, might have been on renntech.org

If life were only as easy as a "google search":

http://www.flat-6.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19580

Good to see that he's just as much a miserable, flip-flopping, kill-joy over there as he was here.

who? mnboxster??

Wow! i didn't know that this many other people had issues with Jim. Whenever I used to get into it with him I felt like people just sided with him instead of me. Curious.

And yes, he is one of the reasons why I stopped posting here very much.

Seems like another Boxster BB could have been formed just by those trying to avoid him, clearly his exit has helped return more members to 986, that should eleviate any concerns the Mods have about whether their decisions were correct & responsible. As far as siding with him, nobody sheltered his ass more than Brucelee.