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rxgolf 08-17-2004 07:36 AM

cabin leak
 
Hello Fellow Boxster lovers, I recently discovered yesterday after all the rain we got here in Va. that there was water in both sides of the car when I went to drive it. I have a 99 and this has never happened before. I called the dealer and they said that it was odd. I was wondering if I should take it in or is there something I can do myself to fix the problem.

Tool Pants 08-17-2004 08:01 AM

There are 2 drains under the top. Check to see if they are clear.

rxgolf 08-17-2004 01:42 PM

Do you mean under the convertible top or top of the wind shield trim ?

Tool Pants 08-17-2004 02:29 PM

Under the top. You need to put the top in the service position.

There are also 2 drains under each side of the battery but I had to quess as all you said was there was water in both sides of the car. Each door also has 2 drains.

rxgolf 08-17-2004 08:36 PM

Thanks for the info, I really appreciate this board.

Alienz 08-17-2004 09:29 PM

Was the water under the seats?

rxgolf 08-18-2004 07:14 PM

No, by the feet on both driver and passanger.

Alienz 08-18-2004 09:11 PM

Check out under the driver's seat, see if there is water around the anti-theft unit (it's a black box ).

Alienz 08-21-2004 05:53 PM

I checked today and the passenger side is soaking wet!! There is also a little bit on the driver's side. COuld it be the AC leaking the water onto the rug?

mrmickeymouse 08-21-2004 05:57 PM

Yes it is the drains, either clogged,or popped off. You have no idea how many of these posts I see now it's summer time.

Alienz 08-21-2004 06:06 PM

Front or rear? I'm sure my rear drains are good but haven't checked the front yet.

rxgolf 08-21-2004 06:17 PM

I still can't find the drain holes to see if thay are clogged.

mrmickeymouse 08-21-2004 06:55 PM

I would run the A/C and then see were it is coming from under the dash.

rxgolf 08-21-2004 07:16 PM

It's alot of water and it only happens when it rains really hard and I don't cover the car.

mrmickeymouse 08-21-2004 08:06 PM

Oh Ok..

I having trouble trying to cut and paste you the diagrams of the drainage points.

PDF files are such a pain....

Alienz 08-21-2004 08:09 PM

I'm not sure if it is rain related. The other day I turned the AC on while it was humid, I felt water dripping on my feet. WHen I checked under there, I felt a plastic rectangular pipe that was a little bit wet. I assumed it was from the humidity. As far as rain is concerned, water cannot get in there (front of the seat) and leave area under the seat dry.

Alienz 08-21-2004 08:14 PM

In this picture, the water in my case was leaking from there to the back of the seat. This Water Pan/Drip is very hard to replace so I just plugged the hole with RTV and glue. Water still leaks but not as much at before, I still have to seal it more with that stuff.

ON the passenger side, there is a small trail of water on the rug coming down from the dashboard. I don't know the source though.

rxgolf 08-21-2004 08:19 PM

There's no water underneath or behind my seats, just on the floor board panels by the peddles.

Alienz 08-21-2004 08:25 PM

THen I think we have this problem...
http://www.986faq.com/10-0/problems.asp#009

mrmickeymouse 08-22-2004 06:40 PM

RXgolf-

Send an e mail to me so I can e mail you the diagrams.

Alienz 08-22-2004 07:28 PM

thnx for the diagrams mrmickeymouse. Wow I didn't know suck a little drain hole can be a big problem.

Shortbus 09-29-2004 09:52 AM

so how do you guys check the entire drain for blockages? Do you run some sort of wire through it???? In my case, I keep getting water in my driver side door around the speaker, which i think leaks onto the carpet on the driver side floor. The dealer wants 400 bucks to replace my door seal. Screw them.

If I drop water onto the windsheild on the driver side, i see water coming out from under the driver side door. Is this normal? Looks like it's draining water into the door jamb.

Tool Pants 09-29-2004 11:57 AM

There are 2 drains at the bottom of the door, little slits in the metal. Hard to see because they are hidden by the rubber door seal.

Shortbus 09-29-2004 12:31 PM

cool i'll check those out. I bet my freaking dealer doesn't even have a clue they're there. I'm liking those people less and less.

Christian -

Shortbus 09-30-2004 04:02 AM

I couldn't find those drains anywhere. I went around the bopttom part of the door around the seal and only found where the seal plugs INTO the door... So is water SUPPOSED to drain through the inside of the door???? Those freaking morons at HBL Porsche have apperently sealed the whole bottom part of my door panel right under the carpet. I'm planning to take the door panel off myself (found some step by step directions) and find out where water is getting INTO the door FROM. They supposedly already sealed the gasket in the door jamb, and now wanted to replace the seal on the door frame (i.e. the car BODY), not sure how that would ever stop water from getting behind the door PANELS but sure ,they'd make a good amnt of $$. Freaking idiots.

I honestly thought i'd get to like my porsche dealer, but just am coming to realize they're just as dumb as any dealer I've ever dealt with, if not dumber. They broke half the parts on my door panel when they took it off and just kind of re-put them all back in together.

Shortbus 09-30-2004 07:29 AM

And now my driver side matt is completely soaked and my car's starting to smell like mold. I'm just thinking i'm gonna dump it and get a nissan again. This frekking sucks.

Shortbus 10-25-2004 01:05 PM

Well good news I fixed the door leak myself. Got some sealant and resealed the door jamb gasket and also removed my door panel and resealed the whole bottom of the insulation panel behind the carpetting including the speaker screws that hold the speaker assembly to the door and it's been leak free!!!!! Knock on wood.

porsche986 10-25-2004 01:42 PM

m3 leak
 
My bmw M3 cab is leaking water bad i havent a clue where its comming from but the blue leather has around 3 inches of water on every dam morning after a heavy rain fall. Its a shame as with 300 bhp i never use it but its handy as it has 4 seats.

any ideas?

the boxster takes the garage and the bmw sits on the driveway.

Ad Sach 10-25-2004 02:48 PM

Re: m3 leak
 
Quote:

Originally posted by porsche986
My bmw M3 cab is leaking water bad i havent a clue where its comming from but the blue leather has around 3 inches of water on every dam morning after a heavy rain fall. Its a shame as with 300 bhp i never use it but its handy as it has 4 seats.

any ideas?

the boxster takes the garage and the bmw sits on the driveway.

Only 300HP, an E36? Blue leather - the seats?


I'd try placing one end of a large garbage bag under where the top meets the windshield and the other end high up to the rear. If your bag collects water THROUGH the top you might be able to seal the leak with a convertible top sealer.



FWIW I have not heard of a Boxster top leaking through the fabric. I think it is rubberized in the middle like those mattress covers for babies.

porsche986 10-25-2004 03:04 PM

yer i will try that, thankyou.

i also see the boxster rubber seal and the bmw dont have that. There again porsche is far better than any bmw.

p.s my m3 is around 300bhp + i have never really tested it but it gives my boxster 2.5 a run for its money. I mean when my brother drove my boxster and i drove my m3 i could pull away from 0-100 then the boxster pulled level and left me at 140mph then i was gaining and it was level for ages...

i think although the m3 has more bhp the boxster levels up of the weight ratio and quick gear box.

with my car blue, the leather blue and i have just installed dvd screens i am a little worried about this CRAZY weather but thanks i will do that trick tomorrow night.

i didnt know there was such a thing called cab top sealer, i will get some..
thanks adsach

Shortbus 10-26-2004 06:06 AM

unfortunately water leaks are very deceiving when it comes to finding the SOURCE of the leak. Trial and error is your best bet. Get creative, like the bag under the top idea is a good start. In my case the gasket water leak has been a known problem with older Boxsters (the2.5)... My dealer achully "supposedly" resealed it for me (for 200 bucks mind you) and when it still leaked and I mentioned MAYBE trying to add another layer of sealant they said NO and wanted to replace the seal that runs along the frame of the door sill on the car for an additional 400 something bucks. Had I trusted their judgement and gone with it I'd be 400$ short and still leaking... Resealing my door gasket and bottom was step 1 of my trial and error plan. I was lucky enough it worked. Good luck with yer M3. I definitely noticed the boxster pulls VERY well at higher speeds. For a 2.5L engine that's quite impressive I must say.


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