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2000SoCalBoxsterS 05-16-2007 08:57 AM

Porsche beautification idea
 
I don't know about you guys, but I don't run with a front license plate for the same reason that most of us don't. It ugly's up your beautiful front bumper. But there I times when you know you have to fly through hostile territory and you wish you had an easy temporary way to put your plate on.

I believe this is a great solution to the problem:

I am also a member of the Corvette forum. There is a company called Top Flight Reproductions that makes a quick easy-on-and-easy-off removable license plate bracket. It contours slightly with the front bumper as well for a nice-a-look as you can get with a license plate on the front of your car. When you need a plate you just pop it on. For parking in the city, going through tolls, or areas with over enthusiatic LEO's.

For Porsche owners there is good news and bad news. The bad news is that they only make this removable plate holder for Corvettes right now. The good news is that if you have a Boxster S, Cayman, or 911 with the center air intake they believe that the bracket will also work on these Porsches.

If they see as much interest from the Porsche crowd as they do from the Vette crowd I believe they will start making this product especially for Porsches and start advertising on the Porsche forums.

Check them out. I'm ordering mine today.

http://www.topflightrepro.com/

porsche986spyder 05-16-2007 09:14 AM

Looks like a plain painted license plate frame to me. No different than buying one at PepBoys and doing it yourself. What is so special about these frames? :confused:

blinkwatt 05-16-2007 09:14 AM

Looks Bling-tastic.

johne4 05-16-2007 09:23 AM

I guess I consider myself lucky, I live in one of the States that do not have front licence plates :D

BoxsterBob - CA 05-16-2007 09:29 AM

If you're looking for a good temporary option, i.e., get the fix it ticket signed off, or parking where NFP tickets are likely, (LAX and several downtown meter locations) you may want to consider something like this. It's a plate bracket attached to a bolt that fits the tow hook mount. Very ugly for full time operation, but perfect in a pinch.

Personally, I think you could whip one up for a few bucks with Home Depot parts, but this site shows the idea:

http://www.moweraxle.com/pricelist/porschetowhookmount.html

2000SoCalBoxsterS 05-16-2007 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche986spyder
Looks like a plain painted license plate frame to me. No different than buying one at PepBoys and doing it yourself. What is so special about these frames? :confused:

It's not at all just a plain plate frame. I know on their website they don't make that very obvious. They are engineers but not very good marketers. Plus the Vette community is very familiar with it and know how works so they don't explain it well on their site.

Try this link:

http://www.topflightrepro.com/corvetteplatebracket.html

porsche986spyder 05-16-2007 09:43 AM

Trust me. I can buy an identical frame at any car parts store and paint it myself. Plastic tends to be some what flexible, so it would be easy to curve it onto the front of our cars. I preffer not to use one. Police sometimes say something when I get pulled over, but they never write me a ticket. It's to easy to fix and get taken care of. A few years ago on another car I had, the cop gave me a ticket for not having that front plate. I just put mine on the next day with some double sided tape and took a picture of it being on the front bumper, brought it to court with me and my ticket and got it dismissed, while the whole time my car was sitting in the parking lot with NO front plate. It's that easy to get out of and that's why most cops don't enforce it anymore, they like to give you warrnings instead. :cheers:

drburton 05-16-2007 09:58 AM

At my last DE event there was a guy who created a replica of his license plate on a sticker. So it looked exactly like his back license plate, same size etc.. except it was just stuck on the front of the car, so no bracket.

It wasn't beautiful but was a step up from the big bracket and holes in the front of the car.

2000SoCalBoxsterS 05-16-2007 10:07 AM

No. You are not understanding this device. Which I can totally understand because they do a terrible job of showing how it works on their site. I have them creating a better photo explanation and sending it to me.

I've seen an excellent example on the Vette forum by a member but now I can't find the post. It was a few months ago. Let me try to explain this better myself.

Apparantly there is a bracket that fits inside your front center air intake vent in the bumper. It sit's inside where you can't see it. Then the plate holder snaps into that hidden bracket and out agian when you want to go plateless.

For guys who live in states with a front plate law it's a nice solution.

eslai 05-16-2007 10:41 AM

Yeah...I'm having a totally hard time seeing how that plate is removeable or what now. The tow hook one seems to be a very nice solution, but if there's an easier "snap-on/snap-off" solution that doesn't require drilled holes, I'm all for it!

MNBoxster 05-16-2007 10:50 AM

Hi,

I don't see what the Big Deal is. It's a Fact of Life in the 38 of the 50 States which require a Front Plate. If you live in one of these states, you should have one. Why should everyone else have to do it except you?

You think it looks ugly? Porsche doesn't! Unlike many Car Manufacturers, Porsche photographs all it's cars for Brochures and Press Releases sporting a Front Plate.

The Tow Hook receptacle can be a good way to temporarily mount a Front Plate, but the aftermarket kits aren't the best I've seen.

The best, pictured below, was made for me by a member of another Forum. It's advantage is that you can mount the Plate Up/Down and/or Side-to-Side with so much variance that it actually doesn't look bad.

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

eslai 05-16-2007 11:04 AM

That one _is_ pretty nice. It's not all super CNC-machined like the super-expensive one the Doc showed in this thread, but I do like the ability to position it wherever you want.

As for the aesthetic merits of a front license plate, I guess that's all subject to opinion. I think all cars look better without the front plate. Porsches seem better designed to accommodate the european license plates than the US-sized ones.

porsche986spyder 05-16-2007 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MNBoxster
Hi,

You think it looks ugly? Porsche doesn't! Unlike many Car Manufacturers, Porsche photographs all it's cars for Brochures and Press Releases sporting a Front Plate.

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

That's still a matter of opinion. Porsche does it for obvious LEGAL reasons. Not because they think it does not look ugly. Besides, they are always shown with the cool narrow European version, not some square shaped plate on the front in their Press Releases. ;)

djomlas 05-16-2007 04:36 PM

well the porsche puts on the european plates, which are much nicer looking than the big US ones

Grizzly 05-16-2007 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drburton
At my last DE event there was a guy who created a replica of his license plate on a sticker. So it looked exactly like his back license plate, same size etc.. except it was just stuck on the front of the car, so no bracket.

In Maryland that's called a Fraudulently Altered Tag and it's a no-no, requiring your appearance in court. ;) On the traffic citation, there's a place for the Officer to put in the amount of the fine. When he writes MA (for must appear) on that line...that's never good. In that case the Judge gets to make up his own fine. :eek:

It would be much better to run with no front tag. Last I checked it was $35.00 and no points.

r9i8c7k 05-17-2007 09:01 AM

Plates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BoxsterBob - CA
If you're looking for a good temporary option, i.e., get the fix it ticket signed off, or parking where NFP tickets are likely, (LAX and several downtown meter locations) you may want to consider something like this. It's a plate bracket attached to a bolt that fits the tow hook mount. Very ugly for full time operation, but perfect in a pinch.

Personally, I think you could whip one up for a few bucks with Home Depot parts, but this site shows the idea:

http://www.moweraxle.com/pricelist/porschetowhookmount.html

I have never been ticketed(lucky). But I will keep this in mind if I get a fix it ticket.

r9i8c7k 05-17-2007 09:08 AM

We are special.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MNBoxster
Hi,

I don't see what the Big Deal is. It's a Fact of Life in the 38 of the 50 States which require a Front Plate. If you live in one of these states, you should have one. Why should everyone else have to do it except you?

You think it looks ugly? Porsche doesn't! Unlike many Car Manufacturers, Porsche photographs all it's cars for Brochures and Press Releases sporting a Front Plate.

The Tow Hook receptacle can be a good way to temporarily mount a Front Plate, but the aftermarket kits aren't the best I've seen.

The best, pictured below, was made for me by a member of another Forum. It's advantage is that you can mount the Plate Up/Down and/or Side-to-Side with so much variance that it actually doesn't look bad.

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99


"Why should everyone else have to do it except you?" - because we are Porsche Boxster owners. We are different. Exceptions should be made for special people. No?

Perfectlap 05-17-2007 09:14 AM

well I haven't had a front plate for nearly 9 years. Have been questioned about it by the Five-O many times, only got a ticket once and that was at a check point that was just a big excuse for this small town to ticket everyone. They were giving out tickets left and right in this empty lot. They must have raised allot of dough that night.

I'd rather pay the $30 ticket than make it easier for a state trooper to shoot his lazer at my front plate. The lazer needs something reflective and most license plates are coated in this reflective paint. They can use your headlights too, but you need those.

Grizzly 05-17-2007 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfectlap
The lazer needs something reflective and most license plates are coated in this reflective paint. They can use your headlights too, but you need those.

Not exactly. The laser "beam" is about three feet wide and bounces off of the front surface area of your vehicle. It doesn't need a front plate or headlights as a reflective surface to function.

boggtown 05-17-2007 10:45 AM

I thought it started as a pencil sized beam, but disperses into an 18 inch diameter by the time it hits your car. And the only reason lazer detecters go off is due to the shaking in the troopers arms allowing the beam to hit the detecter for a split second.

David N. 05-17-2007 11:17 AM

If they can get my little bike behind three lanes of traffic, they can get a boxster without a license plate.

-David

MNBoxster 05-17-2007 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche986spyder
That's still a matter of opinion. Porsche does it for obvious LEGAL reasons. Not because they think it does not look ugly. Besides, they are always shown with the cool narrow European version, not some square shaped plate on the front in their Press Releases. ;)

Hi,

It's not a matter of opinion at all- Porsche DOES photograph all it's cars with a Front plate.

Euro Plate, US Plate, what's the difference - it's still a Front Plate!

Happy Motoring... Jim'99

Grizzly 05-17-2007 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MNBoxster
Hi,

It's not a matter of opinion at all- Porsche DOES photograph all it's cars with a Front plate.

Happy Motoring... Jim'99


The attached photgraph is a lead in photo for Porsche's web-site.

It was taken by Porsche.

None of the vehicles in the photograph are displaying a front plate.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...011/normal.jpg

MNBoxster 05-17-2007 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grizzly
The attached photgraph is a lead in photo for Porsche's web-site.

It was taken by Porsche.

None of the vehicles in the photograph are displaying a front plate.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...011/normal.jpg

Hi,

Idle question - does it Hurt having that DICK permanently planted in your head???

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

Adam 05-17-2007 07:16 PM

At least we don't have it as bad as C6 corvette owners. Apparently, the engineers/designers didn't have a front plate in mind when they made the car. This is a product they are using...
http://www.madvet.com/shop?frame=7.7789

Grizzly 05-17-2007 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MNBoxster
Hi,

Idle question - does it Hurt having that DICK permanently planted in your head???

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

Wow. Harsh. I thought you'd be able to accept the fact that you are wrong a bit more graciously. I mean, being that you are wrong so often, (except of course, when you are plagiarizing someone else's work) I imagined you'd be more skilled at handling it gracefully.

Wrong is palatable. Indignant, pompous, authoritative and wrong..well, that's a little harder to take.

MNBoxster 05-17-2007 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grizzly
Wow. Harsh. I thought you'd be able to accept the fact that you are wrong a bit more graciously. I mean, being that you are wrong so often, (except of course, when you are plagiarizing someone else's work) I imagined you'd be more skilled at handling it gracefully.

Wrong is palatable. Indignant, pompous, authoritative and wrong..well, that's a little harder to take.


Hi,

Of course, you could never be wrong, because you contribute nothing!

A Review of your contributions would reveal a plethora of stirring controversy, it is what you relish. Just review the archives...

You purport to be some kind of Law Enforcement, or some Homeland Security what not - an enigma.

Assuming that's actually true (a stretch I am probably not willing to make) - that you're not just some low-level government functionary (READ in charge of Post-it-Notes inventory) who couldn't hack it in the Commercial World, I'd say we're all in trouble and should start Duct Taping our windows immediately!

Do me, and the Forum, a favor and keep your Cyber-stalking tendencies to yourself! Better yet, just place me on your Iggy list, it's the only thing I'd thank you for...

super66 05-17-2007 09:19 PM

looks like you got a foot in your mouth on this one grizz....porsche updated that pic, I hear the guy who released it and ruined their perfect record of always photographing with a front plate was cut loose.....read em and weep

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...cheplates2.jpg

boggtown 05-17-2007 10:43 PM

Hmm. I went to the walpapers for porsche.com and like half didnt have front plates either... I run without them since I want better MPG's due to the less drag. :p

tomk17 05-18-2007 06:55 AM

I live in Massachusetts which is a 2 plate state. The state is in transition from the rear plate only (green) to front/rear plates (red). When I picked the car up my dealer gave me a great tip "unofficially". I went out and bought a cheap $5 plastic plate bracket. I mounted the front plate to it but did not screw the bracket onto the car. I then broke the plastic bracket and I keep it in the front trunk. If I get stopped my line is" I just came out of the mall yesterday and found the broken plate on the ground - see, here is the broken one. I have a new Porsche mounting plate on order". I betting I can pull it off if I'm stopped. I even smudged some dirt on the plate. Hate to be sneaky but the front of my car looks great without it. PS: I did need to mount the plate with some very small screws to get the annual inspection sticker.

porsche986spyder 05-18-2007 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MNBoxster
Hi,

It's not a matter of opinion at all- Porsche DOES photograph all it's cars with a Front plate.

Euro Plate, US Plate, what's the difference - it's still a Front Plate!

Happy Motoring... Jim'99

I was talking about weather it looks UGLY or not. The difference is the size and shape of the our UGLY US PLATES vs. the cool sleek and small EUROPEAN size. They look much nicer. Again, it's all about your opion. As an Art Director, I think I know what I'm talking about. It's what I do for a living. And those beauty shots that PORSCHE uses are always with EURO plates. Their is a big difference in terms of what looks better. :cheers:

porsche986spyder 05-18-2007 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grizzly
The attached photgraph is a lead in photo for Porsche's web-site.

It was taken by Porsche.

None of the vehicles in the photograph are displaying a front plate.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...011/normal.jpg


Thanks for finding this image for me! You made me laugh! :p

porsche986spyder 05-18-2007 07:53 AM

I guess the best question is why are 38 states required to have both front and rear and those other states are not? I moved from Louisiana to Texas and was shocked to learn the the state does not require a helmet when ridding a motorcycle requires a front plate on your car. Louisiana does not. But they do require helmets. Go figure. :dance:

John V 05-18-2007 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomk17
If I get stopped my line is" I just came out of the mall yesterday and found the broken plate on the ground - see, here is the broken one. I have a new Porsche mounting plate on order". I betting I can pull it off if I'm stopped. I even smudged some dirt on the plate. Hate to be sneaky but the front of my car looks great without it.

It won't work. Been there, done that, they gave me a fix-it ticket for it anyway. After the second time being stopped by the cops I gave up.

A co-worked had Geico insurance and his rates went up as a result of his three fix-it tickets for the plate being missing. No points, just a fine, but it was reported to insurance and they jacked his rates. Great stuff.

Grizzly 05-18-2007 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MNBoxster
Hi,

Of course, you could never be wrong, because you contribute nothing!

A Review of your contributions would reveal a plethora of stirring controversy, it is what you relish. Just review the archives...

You purport to be some kind of Law Enforcement, or some Homeland Security what not - an enigma.

Assuming that's actually true (a stretch I am probably not willing to make) - that you're not just some low-level government functionary (READ in charge of Post-it-Notes inventory) who couldn't hack it in the Commercial World, I'd say we're all in trouble and should start Duct Taping our windows immediately!

Do me, and the Forum, a favor and keep your Cyber-stalking tendencies to yourself! Better yet, just place me on your Iggy list, it's the only thing I'd thank you for...

Perhaps you should review the archives. Beyond stealing from wikipedia and quoting from a service manual, what do you contribute exactly? At least the members seem to appreciate my humor. Yes, we're able to use you to do our research for us, when we don't feel like looking the answers up ourselves. I suppose that's something, but for me at least, not worth enduring your deplorable personality.

If I were willing to steal others' work and spend countless hour researching a shop manual, in hopes that others believed I was knowledgeable, I guess I could be a "valuable" contributor, just like you.

Just curious...when you said I was full of **************** last week and insisted that the forum member get himself to a Hunter 97xx ASAP, did you send him a check for the $200.00 he wasted because you were wrong...again?

As for what I do or don't do for a living, there are at least four forum members who know exactly what I do, where I've been and what I've done. That makes you wrong...again. Does it ever become tiresome for you?

I have to admit that I was very impressed by the stories you recounted recently of your service time and the missions you've flown. Even though I'm not a vet myself, military service is most honorable and impressive to me. Did it ever occur to you, however, that perhaps it was your charming personality that caused your C.O.s to repeatedly send you on those suicide escort missions in the first place? How disappointed they must've been each time they saw you limping back to the deck, smoke billowing from your tail. "Dammit, send him up again!"


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