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porsche986spyder 05-11-2007 12:32 PM

May have screwed up my car?
 
Okay, I'm not sure if I screwed up my car or not, but I never noticed my car doing this before. Let me start at the begining. Last week I was doing some drag racing (at the track) and was doing some really good launches with my car. At the the end of the day I noticed a burning smell, like the clutch or could have been a rubber smell, like the Serantine Belt. Definately was not the tires.

This week while driving, I noticed when I am accelerating and want to merge or get more pick up by punching the gas, the car engine seems to rev high before I feel any pick up. It's like a few seconds of a delay. W.T.F. Is it possible that my clutch is going or slipping? How can someone tell if it is slipping. Car was already in gear when this happened and the clutch was not pressed at all. Could it be that I streched the Belt or burnt a flat spot onto it? It feels as if the belt is slipping more than anything, but I'm not sure if that is possible because our Boxsters have the Belt Pulley Tensioner. It almost feels like the cars fuel injection is off a bit with the cars pick up, i.e. acceleration. Could I have screwed up the timing? No check engine lights have come on. I'm having the belt replaced next week as part of it's regular maintenance and hope this will fix the problem, but I am not sure. It's also speratic, and some times does not do it at all. Now I'm worried. :confused:

Boxtaboy 05-11-2007 12:35 PM

Nope...not the serpentine belt. You have fried your clutch. That is the clutch slipping. New clutch time. Sorry.

And the slipping will only get worse until it totally dies on you, and you won't be able to move the car. The slipping will basically get to the point where you shift into the gear, step on the gas, and you will see the revs go up, but the car won't move anymore. Get it to a shop and have the clutch replaced, and don't use the Boxster as a drag racer anymore...it's not meant for that kinda work.

Grizzly 05-11-2007 12:37 PM

It sounds like the clutch has gone south. To check, try this: Run the car through the gears to 4th or 5th. At cruising speed, try to accelerate hard. If the car revs but doesn't move (or hesitates before pulling, as you say), you're going to need a clutch.

EDIT: Ha! Boxtaboy beat me to it.

porsche986spyder 05-11-2007 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grizzly
It sounds like the clutch has gone south. To check, try this: Run the car through the gears to 4th or 5th. At cruising speed, try to accelerate hard. If the car revs but doesn't move (or hesitates before pulling, as you say), you're going to need a clutch.

EDIT: Ha! Boxtaboy beat me to it.

That's what it does. Sounds like I burnt that sucker. That's it, no more racing for me. Would an extended warranty cover this, or is that considered regular ware-n-tare and does not cover the clutch?

blueillusion97 05-11-2007 12:43 PM

O yea cluch is gone...i test drove one boxster and thats what it was doing, in 2rd the car wouldnt even move and there was plenty of smoke comming through side vents, that one whas completely gone

Boxtaboy 05-11-2007 12:48 PM

Not sure if your extended warranty would cover a wear item like a clutch. New clutch will cost you about $1500 (parts/labor).

porsche986spyder 05-11-2007 12:49 PM

Okay, stupid question about the clutch and warranty. Don't know what I was thinking. No way is that covered.

porsche986spyder 05-11-2007 12:52 PM

Anyone know of the cheapest place to get an O.E.M. clutch. Or anyone know of a better racing one, maybe a high performance clutch that I can upgrade to?

blinkwatt 05-11-2007 12:52 PM

Hopefully this will save you some money;

http://buyclutch.com/ (give them a call or email them,their site isn't working correctly)

You may want to check and see what parts are required for the clutch replacement to ensure that those 3 parts are all that is needed to replace the clutch.

conradtan 05-11-2007 01:38 PM

So what times/speeds were you posting? :D

deliriousga 05-11-2007 02:51 PM

http://www.****************************************************.com/porscheatcost.php has genuine kits for great prices.

Cloudsurfer 05-12-2007 05:20 AM

Def your clutch. I'd avoid the dealer and have a good indy shop do the work. While you're there, have a look at/ replace the RMS.

If you want to spend time at the drag strip, get a drag car! ;)

Patrick

FrayAdjacent 05-12-2007 09:08 AM

+10 on the clutch.

The clutch in my old Toyota Tacoma wore out, and it was driveable, but in just about any gear, if I punched it, the engine would rev higher, but acceleration was not there.

Had the clutch changed, and the clutch lining was COMPLETELY gone.

If this happens, I'd surmise it could damage the flywheel surface, but it didn't cause any problems in my Toyota.

If I were you, I'd look into replacing the clutch soon. I wouldn't worry too much about the flywheel, they can check it when the transmission is off. The clutch is a consumable part - they'll wear out sooner or later.

Oh, and remember that smell. Nothing smells like a clutch burning!

leeedwards 05-12-2007 10:05 AM

I just replaced my clutch, Dealer in Fremont Ca. quoted $2000. including RMS replacement. I found independent shop in Oakland Ca. who did the job for $1400. So shop around.

porsche986spyder 05-14-2007 06:27 AM

Thanks for all the advice. I'm going to replace the complete clutch and the RMS while they have the whole thing out. Kill 2 birds with one stone I figure. Found a shop I use that will do it all for $950.00 :cheers:

djomlas 05-14-2007 06:34 AM

drag racing? lol
btw, what time did you get? was this a 1/4 mile?

just go out and do some autoX man

JAAY 05-14-2007 09:06 AM

950 is a good price. You are going to need a new flywheel too. your old one is going to be terribly heat checked. New flywheel = $900.00
I just did the whole thing with new seals. 2000.00
J

porsche986spyder 05-14-2007 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAAY
950 is a good price. You are going to need a new flywheel too. your old one is going to be terribly heat checked. New flywheel = $900.00
I just did the whole thing with new seals. 2000.00
J

It's $950.00 for the labor and $15.00 for the RMS part, $377.00 for the complete clutch kit. I'm hoping I won't need a new flywheel. We'll see.

TriGem2k 05-14-2007 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by porsche986spyder
It's $950.00 for the labor and $15.00 for the RMS part, $377.00 for the complete clutch kit. I'm hoping I won't need a new flywheel. We'll see.


I had dealer do the clutch for me, Parts & Labor $1400... You should check with your local dealer. Sounds like the indy shop is going to save you about $80. That's not worth it in my opinion.

porsche986spyder 05-14-2007 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TriGem2k
I had dealer do the clutch for me, Parts & Labor $1400... You should check with your local dealer. Sounds like the indy shop is going to save you about $80. That's not worth it in my opinion.

Steelership wanted 1,200 just for labor alone! Boardwalk Porsche, Plano Tx. ;)

TriGem2k 05-14-2007 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by porsche986spyder
Steelership wanted 1,200 just for labor alone! Boardwalk Porsche, Plano Tx. ;)


Personally I'd still rather fork over the exta $250 in labor and know that Porsche is behind the work and anything that goes wrong is on them...It's a big job I wouldn't trust just anyone. I'm sure you are aware but they will be dropping your tranny.

You can supply them the parts, you don't have to pay what they charge for the kit.

porsche986spyder 05-14-2007 11:43 AM

ALL of the dealerships in Dallas told me this: "We can install any part you provide us, we just can't garuntee/warranty the work done if you don't buy it from us." All the other German Mechanic shops in my area WILL use other poeples parts and WILL warranty the work done. Go figure. The only benifit the dealership offered that the other places could not do was the quick turn around. 1-2 days at dealership and 3-4 days at other shops. I gues they just don't have the man power to turn it around that fast.

TriGem2k 05-14-2007 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche986spyder
ALL of the dealerships in Dallas told me this: "We can install any part you provide us, we just can't garuntee/warranty the work done if you don't buy it from us." All the other German Mechanic shops in my area WILL use other poeples parts and WILL warranty the work done. Go figure. The only benifit the dealership offered that the other places could not do was the quick turn around. 1-2 days at dealership and 3-4 days at other shops. I gues they just don't have the man power to turn it around that fast.


Wow Dealers in Dallas suck. Maybe my relationship with my dealer is just good and they like to "hook me up"

porsche986spyder 05-14-2007 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TriGem2k
Wow Dealers in Dallas suck. Maybe my relationship with my dealer is just good and they like to "hook me up"

Well, you may want to ask about the warranty on parts. MOST dealers don't tell you about this unless you ASK THEM. They will just do the work with no questions asked. Then, if your part breaks, all they have to say is that they warranty the work done but not the parts because you did not buy them there, so they cannot be held responsible. It's stupid, but that's how most ALL dealerships work.

TriGem2k 05-14-2007 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche986spyder
Well, you may want to ask about the warranty on parts. MOST dealers don't tell you about this unless you ASK THEM. They will just do the work with no questions asked. Then, if your part breaks, all they have to say is that they warranty the work done but not the parts because you did not buy them there, so they cannot be held responsible. It's stupid, but that's how most ALL dealerships work.


Well Porsche warranties the parts they make anyway. My car has only unsed OEM parts anyway. It shouldnt matter if I bought them at the dealer doing the work or from Sun Coast Parts. I will ask my dealer next time.

Are you using OEM parts or aftermarket stuff?

porsche986spyder 05-15-2007 06:21 AM

Parts are from Suncoast. Do they use O.E.M. parts?

It's basicaly like this, let's say you buy a Serantine belt from Suncoast, regardless if it is an O.E.M. part or not, and you have your local Porsche Dealership install the part. They will warranty the work done, but not the part even if it is an O.E.M. part you bought from another location. So if a week down the road it starts to squeek or make a noise and the belt needs to be adjusted you could ALWAYS bring it back, but if it broke, they would not be responsible because you did not purchase the part from them, even though they installed it and warranty the work of the INSTALLATION only. You can go back as many times needed to fix any noise or for an adjustment if it was not installed correct, but not for any other related issue. It's really stupid.

On the other hand, in the past I have brought the print out of other competitors prices with me and showed it to the parts service manager and they will match their prices. But will not match warehouse or wholesale prices. I haven't tried this yet. Will see what happens.

djomlas 05-15-2007 07:08 AM

you still didnt answer, what did u get 1/4 mile?

porsche986spyder 05-15-2007 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djomlas
you still didnt answer, what did u get 1/4 mile?

Not worth posting or bragging about. I'm still MAD at myself for srewing up my clutch. I'd rather not say. :(


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