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Old 05-03-2007, 03:17 PM   #1
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Did you rip off Wiki without giving them credit?? Shame on you!
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Old 05-03-2007, 07:15 PM   #2
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Jim,
Did you rip off Wiki without giving them credit?? Shame on you!
Hi,

No I didn't. Someone else PM'd me about Chico's (? or whatever his name is) post, seemingly jabbing me. I didn't see it since his contributions are hidden to me. Guy must be cyber-stalking me, disecting everything I write, I dunno - his prob, not mine, I'm not concerned with what he does.

I took my post from my own notes. I've been working with CF since I was studying for my degree in Materials Science back in the '70's. Back then, there were probably fewer than 1000 people who even knew what it was.

You see, I had a small business with a partner producing cosmetic CF parts for the Lotus Esprit. I met my partner, a fellow Esprit owner, at a Nat'l. Lotus convention we both attended. We had similar science/engineering backgrounds and decided to see if we could make up some parts. That's when we contributed to the article in Wikipedia back in '05. We made contributions to the articles on Carbon Nanotubes and Pyrolysis also - this isn't the only forum I contribute to.

He was actually working for a company and had access to some mold making equipment, including a CNC. I spec'd the pieces, produced 3D CAD drawings and my partner would use these to produce a mold and lay up the piece. We made a few sample pieces, but found that using the painted or wet method produced too many rejects from air bubbles, even when vacuum bagged.

We then started making the pieces from prepreg cloth and autoclaving them. These turned out so well that our reject rate came down from 50% to under 4%. So, we started making them to order. We produced about 1000 various pieces in total. But, since we used this expensive production method, we could not really afford to continue (at a price people were willing to pay, and we sold at near our cost) since we could not reach any economy of scale without making a sizeable investment in equipment and we didn't feel the market (both demand estimates as well as competition from firms already doing this work) warranted such a gamble. But, we had a good time, learned a great deal, made several new good friends, and came out pretty much even.

I'd actually forgotten about this submission to Wiki until I broke out my notes for the current thread. Guess I don't feel the need to footnote an article I co-authored...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

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Lol he thinks I'm stalking, I just decided to check his words against wikipedia and I just noticed that his first large reply about carbon fiber is word for word identical to thw wikipedia information on carbon fiber. Not jabing him, just think its unethical to copy and paste amounts of information like that without parphrasing it or quoting it. People get kicked out of there masters program for that kind of thing. But its a forum so doesn't really matter but I knew he didn't know everything about everything he posts... try compairing his posts to wikipedias info on carbon fiber.... word for word match on 80% of his posts here. And if he contributed his notes on CF to wiki, for someone who is anal to the max, he didnt cite himself at all in the artical

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_fiber
Heres the history of contributions to the topic of CF on wiki and i see no Jim or MNBoxster listed
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carbon_fiber&limit=500&action=history

I must admit, im being kind of a jerk right now so ill stop before things escalate.
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CJ I think sometimes in life you have to admit when you are wrong (unless you are having a debate with Bruce Lee ).
Something our current Prez has learned the very hard way.
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CJ I think sometimes in life you have to admit when you are wrong (unless you are having a debate with Bruce Lee ).
Something our current Prez has learned the very hard way.
I usually do accept when im wrong quicker than anyone i know ever could. I admit i was being a jerk, cant say im wrong officially...you know the history of wiki, no jim there and he never forgets stuff, so how would he forget he posted that info word for word in wiki.... I find it strange, is all. I couuuuuuld be wrong but thats as far as ill go on record of admission or wrongness haha no big deal though really, Im looking for another thread to respond to today, this on is done
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