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		|  04-17-2007, 12:35 PM | #1 |  
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			What would it do for a 2.5 box?  Its from an 03' Box S.  Would it change the sound of the car at all?
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		|  04-17-2007, 03:13 PM | #2 |  
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			I don't know what fitment issues there will be, but I know the sound won't be all that different.
		 
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		|  04-17-2007, 03:32 PM | #3 |  
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			On a 2001 2.7, changing from factory to a 2004S muffler made a very noticeable difference.
 
 Mostly at low car speeds -- much beyond 50, the wind noise
 overshadowed the sound.
 
 But quite pleasant at lower speeds. Not loud enough to suit
 me (like the '07 Sport Exhaust does), but definitely different.
 And worth doing if you get a cheap/free one.
 
 So if you get  your hands on one for the right price, it only
 takes an hour or so to swap them out. And, no, you do not
 have to take off the bumper.
 
 That said, I can't answer  your specific question of a 2.5L
 to an '03S.
 
 Best,
 
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		|  04-17-2007, 03:36 PM | #4 |  
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				  And, no, you do nothave to take off the bumper.
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Really?? I thought it was a HUGE PITA to try taking the muffler off w/o removing the rear bumper. Is this not the case? That would be really nice if so.
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		|  04-17-2007, 08:55 PM | #5 |  
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			Well....I do have an S muffler from an 02 sitting in my basement if someone needs it.....
 Also, is is incredibly easier to do an exhaust with the bumper off.  I've done it with the bumper on, and while its possible, you must be very flexible to reach the upper bolts.
 
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		|  04-17-2007, 09:08 PM | #6 |  
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			if you replace the exhaust all by yourself it's a HUGE pain in the neck to do it w/o taking the bumper off.  If you have a friend who helps you balance the 30+ lb of stock muffler in place it's OK.
 But thinking about when I replaced my stock muffler with a GHL, the biggest pain was do get these damn "U" pipes which connect the muffler with the secondary cats into the muffler, talk about a TIGHT fit ...
 
 But my general question is: Unless someone gives you the "S" muffler for free, why bother, go with a nice aftermarket exhaust which really makes a difference...
 
 Hey and these aftermarket exhausts tend to be much lighter and smaller which makes the installation so much easier
 
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			Aren't the exhaust the same internally?
		 
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		|  04-18-2007, 03:25 AM | #8 |  
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				 Really?? I thought it was a HUGE PITA to try taking the muffler off w/o removing the rear bumper. Is this not the case? That would be really nice if so. |  
It's easy enough to do with the bumper on, and it takes less time.  
 
The 2003+ mufflers were changed for additional sound.  The earlier mufflers are all identical internally - the "S" mufflers just have different tips.  So putting a pre-2002 "S" muffler on a pre-2002 non-S car will do nothing for power and sound.
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		|  04-18-2007, 07:38 AM | #9 |  
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			Maybe someday I'll have to get an S muffler to try on my car....
		 
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		|  04-18-2007, 08:33 AM | #10 |  
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			I too have read that the mufflers for the S models were changedsometime in 2003/2004. I promise you that the 2004 ones are
 different -- you can see it just by looking inside it.
 
 As far as taking the bumper off, knock yourself out if you want
 to do it, but it isn't needed.
 
 I would recommend, however, using a lube/penetrant of some
 sort to soak the bolts for a bit first. Use ramps or a lift, excercising
 approcpriate caution and safety, of course, when doing this.
 
 You really can reach the bolts needed, with the right combination
 of sockets, extensions, etc. And you really can wiggle it out and
 back in. I did it by myself three times, so I know it can be done.
 
 And that was, using ramps, on my back using the legs and knees
 to balance it as I wiggled it back in place.
 
 The first time is harder, of course, but a heck of a lot easier than
 removing the bumper (at least from all the pictures I have seen
 that doing that involves).
 
 Best,
 
 - Mark
 
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