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sasha055 02-17-2011 12:52 PM

FS SIR B90-P bearing tool
 
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I have a SIR B90-P bearing tool for sale, got it from a forum member here.
Used 3 times, once by Og57 and 2 times by me.

Comes with box, instructions and all the attachements

200$ shipped in lower USA

Thanks
Sasha

sasha055 02-23-2011 08:45 AM

Bumpity bump

JFP in PA 02-23-2011 10:19 AM

Overpriced; you can get a new one for that money...............

sasha055 02-23-2011 12:54 PM

Where?

2 month ago when I got it I looked all over, cheapest one was 320$ shipped from SIR

Thanks
Sasha

JFP in PA 02-23-2011 02:34 PM

A very quick and cursory internet search will turn up several vendors retailing them brand new for around $230; and with slightly more effort, you can definitely do better than that......

sasha055 02-23-2011 03:17 PM

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I think you're talking about Just the bearing puller as in attached picture.
Same puller can be bought for 240 from SIR or for 190 from ebay or 100 from harbor freight (generic one)
However it doesn't include horseshoe attachement for pulling the hub (B90-3 and B90-3J).

With the B90-3 attachements the tool is 320+ shipping from SIR

Trust me I did a lot of research before pulling the trigger on the whole kit, I even bought the generic puller from Harbor freight.. it didn't work for me

Don't get me wrong I'm not saying please buy from me and if it's overpriced I'll gladly accept it..

Thanks
Sasha

JFP in PA 02-23-2011 06:21 PM

A B90 master set, which includes adaptors for just about everything under the sun (Porsche, BMW, Mercedes, etc.), lists for about $380 (and can be found for less, I know because I have one) and looks like this:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA300_.jpg

Obviously, that is not what is in your picture. You stated you have a B90-P, which lists for around $230, and looks like this:

http://www.handsontools.com/assets/images/stb90-p.jpg

SIR was pushing a "bonus kit" at one time, which included the B90-P and the "horse shoe" that had a list price of $320, but also can be found for less if you look around. I think that is what you have. The “horse shoe” can also be purchased separately for about $30 (List).

Sorry to "burst your bubble" but I still think you are asking too much.......

jrj3rd 02-25-2011 07:50 AM

JFP

Think your lists are outdated - SIR now gives a list of $560 for the master set and they can be found for ~$375 - 400.

The set he is selling averages ~275 - 300 most places (pelican is 275)

While it is not a fantastic bargin, it is a fiar price for ~200 considering he will ship it for that (heavy)

JFP in PA 02-25-2011 08:35 AM

Actually, my pricing is current. I recently paid a little over $315 for a master set, plus freight, and can still purchase the B90-P for a little over $200. Throw in the horse shoe for another $30. Used shop tooling typically sells for about 50% of street pricing for new unless it is very rare or unusual, so the used tool that sold new for $230 should sell in the $120 range, or perhaps a slight bit more due to rarity. List pricing, by-the-by, is only for reference purposes; most distributors covering the professional shops, like my local, actually sell for less and are typically very competitive. And not to take anything away from Wayne, but Pelican is rarely the cheapest source for this type of purchase.

insite 02-25-2011 08:43 AM

JFP - post a link. i've never seen it for less than $275 and IMO $200 is a fair price.

JFP in PA 02-25-2011 09:05 AM

Same as photo above, Handontools , $235. Cost Plus Tools is the same price. My local distributor is about $200.

insite 02-25-2011 09:07 AM

read the note at the bottom, JFP:

NOTE: To extract the Hub w/o using a slide hammer on Porsche models (excluding 356 or 914) part#'s B 90-3 along with B 90-3J are needed.

you just confirmed what we were saying.

JFP in PA 02-25-2011 09:09 AM

Which costs an additional $30, not $320. To get back on point, used tooling sells for about 50% of street pricing, which is rarely list to begin with..............in this case, $125-135.

insite 02-25-2011 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JFP in PA
Which costs an additional $30.


which brings it up to $265, which is about what everyone EXCEPT you has said that it costs.

add in the b90-3 bracket (another $85) and $200 is starting to look like a pretty good deal, no?

JFP in PA 02-25-2011 09:19 AM

Not in my world, we have rarely ever paid more than 50% of what we could get tooling for new for anything used. And the only time we did pay more than 50% of street price was because it was fairly impossible to find, and even then it never got over 60%. If a tool costs $320 (his best price, which remains in dispute), he sould be looking for something in the $160 range or so, not $200. Good for him if he gets $200, but I don't think he will.

insite 02-25-2011 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JFP in PA
Not in my world, we have rarely ever paid more than 50% of what we could get tooling for new for anything used. And the only time we did pay more than 50% of street price was because it was fairly impossible to find, and even then it never got over 60%. If a tool costs $320 (his best price, which remains in dispute), he sould be looking for something in the $160 range or so, not $200. Good for him if he gets $200, but I don't think he will.



good god, man. the guy is just trying to sell some stuff at a REASONABLE price. if you wouldn't pay more than $160, DON'T BUY IT. your first post said that you could get a NEW one for the $200 price. you then provided a web link where an apples to apples version is......THREE FIFTY.

the rest of us might find that a $150 savings for a lightly used model is adequate for us to make the purchase.

JFP in PA 02-25-2011 09:53 AM

OK. Let’s put this to bed, once and for all, as I need to get back under a customer’s car. I did not want, or need the item in the first place; I was just trying to make a considered observation after seeing he was getting no activity on his posting..................

The OP said he has a B90-P for sale used for $200, which I said is too much as it lists new for around $230 or so, as I have demonstrated. Then he said no, it was a kit, and not actually the B90-P, that also contained the horse shoe adaptor, to which I commented that would add another $30 (List for the adaptor is actually between $30 and $35 as there are three size horse shoes for different Porsche models), or about $260 total in my world. He said he could not find it for less than $320, which you and others appear to think, may have been correct at the time. Fine. So if he bought it for that, not knowing you can get it in separately, and paid that amount, then that ($320) should be the basis of the selling price in his world. As he was posting to sell it, and “bumping” it due to inactivity, I made what I still feel is the correct observation based upon years of buying and selling shop tooling, he is asking too much. If he can get the price, God bless him, but I still think it is too much.

I’m out of here.............

Frank M 02-26-2011 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JFP in PA
Not in my world, we have rarely ever paid more than 50% of what we could get tooling for new for anything used. And the only time we did pay more than 50% of street price was because it was fairly impossible to find, and even then it never got over 60%. .

Ahhhh, yes this is what takes place daily in the real world.

To get the maximum price for a tool, part or an accessory one should sell it in a forum where the members are not in tune to what the street price would actually be.

This takes place all the time and everyone is happy.

sasha055 02-26-2011 07:59 AM

Sold

I don't know what world do you guys live in, but from my experience(I had to buy all the tools including screwdrivers) used tools that are not outdated or broken.. always go for more then 50% of their price. Even if we go with 50% price..

This set is 320$ online (SIR or pelican parts) even more if you count shipping.
I asked 200$ SHIPPED for it, shipping is 25-30$ plus Paypal takes another 10 out of it.. so in the end I'm getting 160-170$ for it.. How the F did it turn out with me ripping of fellow forum members?

JFP I have a great deal of respect for you, your posts greatly helped me with my AOS and bearing replacements.. but why did you jump at me? what did I do to you?
From time to time it's ok to acknowledge that "I didn't read the post.. just saw the title and decided to post OVERPRICED!"


Thanks
Sasha

insite 02-26-2011 11:25 AM

nice. fair price = quick sale. not sure why some people decided to jump in your face.

advancescash 02-28-2011 11:56 PM

Sir Tools Porsche Kit for Rear Wheel and Front Wheel Drive - For most models with a singular Solid Roller Wheel Bearing (S.R.W.B.) and Independent Rear Suspension (I.R.S.). Designed to extract and/or install hubs. Built in self-centering mechanism and incorporates a roller thrust bearing.
Special kit designed for 911, 912, 914, 924, 928, 944, 968 and Boxster models with S.R.W.B. and I.R.S. Excluding the Hubs of 914's. 356 models, see tool 242-A.
NOTE: To extract the Hub w/o using a slide hammer on Porsche models (excluding 356 or 914) part#'s B 90-3 along with B 90-3J are needed.

JFP in PA 03-01-2011 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sasha055
Sold

I don't know what world do you guys live in, but from my experience(I had to buy all the tools including screwdrivers) used tools that are not outdated or broken.. always go for more then 50% of their price. Even if we go with 50% price..

This set is 320$ online (SIR or pelican parts) even more if you count shipping.
I asked 200$ SHIPPED for it, shipping is 25-30$ plus Paypal takes another 10 out of it.. so in the end I'm getting 160-170$ for it.. How the F did it turn out with me ripping of fellow forum members?

JFP I have a great deal of respect for you, your posts greatly helped me with my AOS and bearing replacements.. but why did you jump at me? what did I do to you?
From time to time it's ok to acknowledge that "I didn't read the post.. just saw the title and decided to post OVERPRICED!"


Thanks
Sasha


First, let’s get something straight, I did not “jump in anyone’s face”. You posted a “for sale” thread, and were bumping it to get it back up, usually a sign that there had not been a large level of interest. I merely suggested that in my opinion, based upon years of buying and selling used shop equipment, that asking $200 for something that, according to your posts, sold new for $320; I felt $160 or so should be more like it, and suggested your $200 price was a bit high, particularly as the tooling had already passed thru multiple hands. How this got misconstrued into a personal attack is beyond me.

Just to bring closure to this, I have received quite a few emails concerning this thread, several of which appear to agree with my assessment of the value of this tool. That said, if you got your asking price, more power to you………..

insite 03-01-2011 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFP in PA
First, let’s get something straight, I did not “jump in anyone’s face”........




JFP, i think you DID jump in his face. your initial assertion was that a new one could be had for the same price. your argument quickly fell apart, and you started moving the goal posts. when it came time for you to 'put up or shut up', you posted a link that confirmed the OP's assertion. you jumped into someone else's post, started an argument that you LOST, and then now, you somehow try to claim victory by citing 'private emails'. heck, you could be president.

the bottom line is that an article is 'worth' that which someone is willing to pay for it. by this premise, the OP was totally vindicated & the item was proven to be 'worth' the $200 asking price.

JFP in PA 03-01-2011 10:58 AM

You entitled to your opinion, but I just went back and re-read the entire thread, and respectfully disagree, particularly that I was trying to start an argument, or “get in anyone’s face”.

As you seem to see things from a “zero sum” perspective, tell you what, in the future, I’ll go out of my way to try and keep any helpful thoughts to myself………

Jaxonalden 03-01-2011 11:08 AM

Before you guys start launching ICBM's at each other, the statement "an article is 'worth' that which someone is willing to pay for it" is true, because I'm the one that bought it. :dance:

I would have paid more but hell I got it for $200 shipped! It's a bearing puller made out of hardened steel, this thing will not "wear out". Yea it might have some scuffs and scratches on it but it's a TOOL. The value dropping by 50% because it's used just like a new car being driven off the lot is BS. Quality tools hold their value...period! The only way they wouldn't is if they're broke or can't perform for the porpose for which they were made.

When I get done changing the bearings in my car (and I'm going to take my time), I'll be right back on here selling it to the next 986forum member. Selling it to someone that's looking the save a few hundred bucks by doing the job themselves and not having to buy a new puller that will only be used one time.

Seal Gray S 06-01-2011 08:36 PM

I'm not scared
 
Man! For a bunch of wealthy Porche owners, you all are a bit uptight...but I don't mean to offend, so don't lay into me because I can't spell or something like that.

Jaxonalden, when you are done with it, I would be interested in getting it from you if I don't have one allready.

Prost

Frodo 06-02-2011 05:34 AM

A) Just to set the record straight here, we're not ALL "wealthy Porsche owners", and

B) Nobody here really gets all that "uptight", at least not very often. We'll hurl crap in each other's direction from time to time, but rarely do people get that worked up (other than perhaps temporarily). Those who do typically don't stick around all that long.

Opinions get expressed, and (naturally) opinions differ. No big deal...


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