12-20-2011, 08:08 AM
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It's not the drawings they will have a problem with. It's the use of their company and car names.
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12-20-2011, 11:03 AM
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Not to add onto the dogpile, but I would also be wary of the owners of the original photographs from which the illustrations were developed. Too many greedy money-hungry types out there ready to slap cease and desist on anyone and everyone they can.
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12-20-2011, 12:40 PM
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I am sure as this progresses I will work from more and more from my own photos but it is fairly hard to go back and shoot historic moments and many of the shots I use are promotional photos are for all intent and purposes in the public domain. They are disseminated to promote the brand and not as an object of work unto themselves.
I think I have a decent argument that I am in fact creating new intellectual property because I am adding details that are not discernible in the photographs. There is a surprising amount of checking and cross referencing that goes on with each image. I usually don't do stuff with only one angle, I want two or three because the tiny logo on the rear quarter panel in the photo is a pixelated mess and I have to draw it precisely because you cant blur vector lines. So there is a lot that I add to the thing to make it what it is. If I used a program to convert the base image to a piece of automated art then I could see the argument but that is not the case.

Also as part of the process I have to re-create all of the logos and lettering which can be more time consuming than actually drawing the cars. After having owned an advertising agency I get into corporate identity as much as the making of the car. Each car is a moment in technology and advertising that then transcends into art and history if the performance is good enough. It is a nexus of public performance and in that sense the resulting exterior of the car is made to be consumed by as many as will see it, so my work is more along the lines of Warhol's Campbell's soup cans.
Anyway I have spent far more money to get here than I have made or will make. I do this because I like to do it not because I think I might make money at it. I set up the t-shirts because I wanted a t-shirt and I made a calendar because I wanted a calendar.
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12-21-2011, 07:10 AM
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...and because you had the slightest feeling some of us might want a shirt/mug/calendar, too, right?
Hey, seeing your preparation for any potential argument on the matter I feel better about it. You certainly know more about it than I do, and either way it's still impressive stuff and worth some recognition.
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12-21-2011, 07:49 AM
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Why thank you O/D!
I just received my T-shirt sample today, they are really nice. I ordered the basic Tee to see the quality and they are made by Gildan (Gildan Ultra Cotton on the Label), they are a nice weight and seem to be well made.
I got both sides printed to see how much coverage and what kind of colors and detail I would get and I must say that the colors are accurate, the detail is just as if it was printed on my HP here at my desk and it appears to be a durable process that will hold up well to washing.
I will snap a pic or two when I get the chance.
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12-23-2011, 08:31 AM
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Lucas Ordonez loves the Signatech Nissan illustration and I am sending him one to put on his wall. Too bad I can't deliver it personally to Spain!
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12-23-2011, 11:07 AM
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That's awesome, and some really good exposure for you. What better endorsement does one need for their work?
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12-31-2011, 04:36 AM
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The new 2012 Calendars from Lulu came in and they are perfect. Better than the Vistaprints samples and a whole lot easier to deal with and less expensive too!
2012 Illustrated Porsche Calendar by Scott Smith in Cars
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01-05-2012, 01:14 PM
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I think someone would be a great candidate to design a new 986forum banner logo.
Being that we have new ownership.
p.s.
Please do the Boxster Concept car. Can't believe it will be going on 19 years.
I will state that no other Porsche concept has aged better.
http://thegarageblog.com/garage/wp-content/uploads/porsche-museum-opening.jpg
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01-05-2012, 03:46 PM
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If we can find a nice hero image that is 1500 pixels or more in size (the bigger the better) plus a couple of other shots from different angles I bet it could be done!
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01-22-2012, 05:05 PM
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Here is the latest, the 2011 Audi R18 that won the 24 Hours of Le mans in the epic one against the crowd battle after McNish's and Rockenfeller's accidents. I took the picture at Petit Le Mans and just finished the illustration.
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