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Old 02-19-2007, 10:46 AM   #1
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I'm planning on REVO, maybe someday all chipped 987 owners get together and make a 'real world experience' report. Anyone with GIAC'ed 987?
GIAC doesn't offer 987 programming yet, unfortunately - otherwise I'd be on it; it isn't in their long range plan either, through summer.

Am I the only one who does not understand what the original poster is talking about in referring to the shift points. This is commonly understood as the engine speed at which one shifts into a given gear, no? Chipping doesn't change anything in that regard. Why would it be any less or more smooth afterward?
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Old 02-19-2007, 11:33 AM   #2
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I'm in So Cal also, where is Powerchip located? I was thinking of going with the Revo chip myself, but that sounds pretty nice if they are taking care of you and the price is actually less than the Revo re-flash. Although the Revo is done by my local Porsche mechanic and so they would probably take care of me also. Fun stuff!
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Old 02-19-2007, 01:17 PM   #3
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I'm in So Cal also, where is Powerchip located? I was thinking of going with the Revo chip myself, but that sounds pretty nice if they are taking care of you and the price is actually less than the Revo re-flash. Although the Revo is done by my local Porsche mechanic and so they would probably take care of me also. Fun stuff!
They're located in West L.A.
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Old 02-19-2007, 02:44 PM   #4
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How is this PowerChip any different from...

How is this PowerChip any different from the Jet Performance Chips? They do the same thing. Re-map your stock ECU. Anyone know which is better. Jet is certainly allot cheaper. Only $275.99!

http://www.performancecenter.com/products?category_name_sub=Factory+ECU+Upgrades&category_name=Chips+%26+Programmers&clearance=0&step=0

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Old 02-19-2007, 04:51 PM   #5
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How is this PowerChip any different from the Jet Performance Chips? They do the same thing. Re-map your stock ECU. Anyone know which is better. Jet is certainly allot cheaper. Only $275.99!

http://www.performancecenter.com/products?category_name_sub=Factory+ECU+Upgrades&category_name=Chips+%26+Programmers&clearance=0&step=0

It says 05 Boxster up there, but it doesn't say 06 or 07. Granted, the 05 is the same as those, but I think they made an error and they only re-map for 986s.


I have a 987


Powerchip is appealing because it comes w/ a warranty AND a guarantee for a good price.
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Old 02-20-2007, 06:14 AM   #6
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How is this PowerChip any different from the Jet Performance Chips? They do the same thing. Re-map your stock ECU. Anyone know which is better. Jet is certainly allot cheaper. Only $275.99!

http://www.performancecenter.com/products?category_name_sub=Factory+ECU+Upgrades&category_name=Chips+%26+Programmers&clearance=0&step=0[/QUOTE]

These are offered for ALL 97-04 Boxsters!
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Old 02-20-2007, 06:27 AM   #7
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How is this PowerChip any different from the Jet Performance Chips? They do the same thing. Re-map your stock ECU. Anyone know which is better. Jet is certainly allot cheaper. Only $275.99!

http://www.performancecenter.com/products?category_name_sub=Factory+ECU+Upgrades&category_name=Chips+%26+Programmers&clearance=0&step=0
These are offered for ALL 97-04 Boxsters![/QUOTE]

Hi,

There are several ways to chip a car. You can add additional Maps, you can piggy-back on the OEM ECU and overide default Maps when certain parameters are experienced, or you can trick the ECU into seeing different conditions than those actually present. Some of these are actual hardware chipsets while others are merely a code over-write.

It is more difficult (therefore more expensive) to break the OEM code to write additional Maps (which are tested to work properly) than it is to create hardware/software which sends false sensor readings to the existing ECU.

I have not researched whether or not these chips differ in this manner. Also, each company's market research establishes the price point people are willing to pay and they price their products accordingly...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99
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I have not researched whether or not these chips differ in this manner. Also, each company's market research establishes the price point people are willing to pay and they price their products accordingly...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99[/QUOTE]

Jet Performance, re-writes the code. That's why they require you to send in your ECU and then they overnight it back to you after they are done with the changes. That's the same thing that PowerChip does. So why is it better, if it is at all?

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Old 02-19-2007, 04:59 PM   #9
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GIAC doesn't offer 987 programming yet, unfortunately - otherwise I'd be on it; it isn't in their long range plan either, through summer.

Am I the only one who does not understand what the original poster is talking about in referring to the shift points. This is commonly understood as the engine speed at which one shifts into a given gear, no? Chipping doesn't change anything in that regard. Why would it be any less or more smooth afterward?
Hi,

First, without trying to start any flames, I've rarely met anyone who spent $600 (or such) on an upgrade who's own personal Butt Dyno didn't confirm the money as well spent, not casting aspersions in any way, but don't consider such reports as truly reliable.

But, on point, as the power and torque curves change through the RPM range from the upgrade, the shift points can change (early or late) as a result. Hope this helps...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99
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Old 02-19-2007, 08:00 PM   #10
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Can idle rpm change?


I think that would affect engaging 1st gear from a stop.
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Old 02-19-2007, 08:21 PM   #11
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MNBoxster thanks for better explaining the shift points that I was referencing on being smoother.
You said it best, but, on point, as the power and torque curves change through the RPM range from the upgrade, the shift points can change (early or late)
On the reliable comment, just posted what the vehicle seems to do in comparison from when I drove it of the dealer lot and the past eight months.
Dyno meter is the best way to go but for the price I paid felt it should be done once the headers are in and it has been re-flashed.
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Old 02-19-2007, 10:02 PM   #12
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Believe or not, hp is not what I primarily want from REVO.
I was planning to get Sport Chrono. Some people call Sport Chrono a gimmik, but I liked it. (Not the watch on the dashboard though).

Well not after I had a chance to drive REVO'ed 986 for a day. I have to admit I was very impressed with REVO. With added hp if any, I call it Sport Chrono with steroid for the same price or less (and no watch). No I don't buy "Less PSM" argument.

I'm still on the fence because of lack of information on warranty and emission issue. If somebody have experience or more insight on that, I'd appreciate any comment.

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