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Old 12-16-2006, 09:52 AM   #1
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I do think you get a couple of HP out of it. I'm planning to do it next year. Letting the car suck in more air can't be bad.
Mods are always a tradeoff. We just don't always look down the road to see what the side effects will be. It has been tested and proven that the K&N/EVO oiled type air filters do let in a little more air, especially at high revs. They also often foul the Porsche MAF sensor causing a check engine light. We also know through testing that they let a little more grit in which will shorten engine life.

In a racing application you are not worried much about engine life. Performance is everything. In the Baja 1000 you build it to last 2000 miles just to be safe. Often it doesn't make it to the finish. You plan on rebuilding after every race. Track racing is the same. You plan to rebuild often. Performance is everything. K&N is your friend.

A street car is a little different. I want it to be reliable. I don't plan to rebuild often... if ever. A new Porsche motor is expensive... about the same price as a Corvette 6.0L crate motor. In this case I am very interested in engine life so I want the best protection from grit I can get. I really don't care about intake noise. I choose to keep my excellent Porsche air intake and paper element. I gladly give up a few ponies at rev limit in trade for 20-30K longer life on my motor, abscence of CEL issues and general peace of mind. It's always a tradeoff.
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Old 12-17-2006, 04:08 PM   #2
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I want to be somewhere in the middle. This car is a lease for 3 years and I am protected under warranty for four (granted I can get mods that comply with warranty)

Engine life is not a priority for me because I don't keep my cars for very long.

You could make the argument that driving your car hard shortens engine life and causes things to wear as well, but I still want to drive her hard. This is no different in the sense that it will put extra wear in all likelihood, but it fits in more with my purposes.

I want to make my car perform to my liking without completely compromising reliability. This is very doable and this is the middle-ground which I am looking for.

10hp would make enough difference for me to be happy. Since this is a lightweight car, it is very elastic to those power increases.


I don't want a 400hp drag car, nor do I want to keep the status quo necessarily.


If I could have gotten the S I would have, but I couldn't. I don't wanna get into personal reasons as to why.


I have been checking out the ImagineAuto stage 2 performance upgrade which includes intake an ECU "flash", but I'm not sure if it's worth 1400 bucks for a CLAIMED 15-18hp (15-18 is worth it, but it's claimed, and that makes it questionable)

Some friends told me I could get a custom muffler made for only a few hundred bucks but I can't find any places that do it.


I'm just looking for a small bit of added performance. No more than 20hp.


Then again I am sure when I get that 20hp, I will want more lol. But I will try control myself
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Old 12-18-2006, 12:07 PM   #3
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I want to be somewhere in the middle. This car is a lease for 3 years and I am protected under warranty for four (granted I can get mods that comply with warranty)

Engine life is not a priority for me because I don't keep my cars for very long.

You could make the argument that driving your car hard shortens engine life and causes things to wear as well, but I still want to drive her hard. This is no different in the sense that it will put extra wear in all likelihood, but it fits in more with my purposes.

I want to make my car perform to my liking without completely compromising reliability. This is very doable and this is the middle-ground which I am looking for.

10hp would make enough difference for me to be happy. Since this is a lightweight car, it is very elastic to those power increases.

I don't want a 400hp drag car, nor do I want to keep the status quo necessarily.

If I could have gotten the S I would have, but I couldn't. I don't wanna get into personal reasons as to why.

I have been checking out the ImagineAuto stage 2 performance upgrade which includes intake an ECU "flash", but I'm not sure if it's worth 1400 bucks for a CLAIMED 15-18hp (15-18 is worth it, but it's claimed, and that makes it questionable)

Some friends told me I could get a custom muffler made for only a few hundred bucks but I can't find any places that do it.

I'm just looking for a small bit of added performance. No more than 20hp.

Then again I am sure when I get that 20hp, I will want more lol. But I will try control myself
Bavarian Motorist,

I am also considering the Imagine Auto Stage 2 next year.

$2200 for 25 HP.

I think the car will sound great and probably be a lot more responsive, but I do wonder how much of a difference an additional 25 HP will make

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Old 12-22-2006, 05:24 PM   #4
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ESLAI: Easy for you to say, you have an S!!!


NICKCATS: If I actually believed whatever their hp gains supposedly are, this would be a no-brainer!

The problem is, I don't believe it. They always over-exaggerate, so I am trying to decide what is a credible product that will even give me half of what they claim it does.

I was stupid one time, when I owned a BMW, and bought something called a turbonator from www.turbonator.com. I didn't realize what it was till I got it, but it claimed to give "up to 35hp" with a 30 day money back guarantee.

Now basically, I got a piece of metal that you are supposed to shove into your air feed pipe, and I'm like, "wow what the hell is this piece of crap going to do except BLOCK air?"

Sure enough, my 0-60 time after the installation was dropped by .5 seconds. Got my $$ back.


So yeah, I learned from my mistakes.
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