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clickman 05-31-2020 09:28 AM

Misfires and tapping
 
2001 Boxster, 2.7L, 90,000 miles. Owned since 2006.
Drive about 5000 miles per year. No winter driving.

I put the car to bed for winter in October. Changed oil, added fuel stabilizer, hooked up battery maintainer.

Early May: first start of year, moved vehicle in garage. Had the normal short-term chain rattle on startup, but then all normal.

Mid May: disconnected battery to replace headlight/wiper/turnsignal switch behind steering wheel. Started engine afterwards; seemed to run rough but attributed this to needing to relearn. No CEL.

May 30 (yesterday): At startup notice tapping from engine. Then noticed solid CEL. Ran engine for about a minute while moving car in garage. Shut down and dumped codes:

P0300 Random/multiple cylinder misfire detected
P0301 Cylinder 1 - misfire detected
P0303 (pd) Cylinder 3 - misfire detected

IMS Guardian not alarming (metal in oil pan).
Spark plugs last changed 2014 (15k miles ago). Replaced tubes same time.
AOS replaced 2014 (15k miles ago).
MAF sensor replaced 2017 (8k miles ago).
Replace fuel filter 2011 (33k miles ago).

Cam deviation (with Durametric and engine hot):
Date Bank 1 Bank 2
April 2015 7.3 2.8
July 2017 6.67 2.50

Research shows it could be as simple as bad gas to as catastrophic as IMS.

I have a Durametric but concerned about running the car any more.

Advice?

husker boxster 06-01-2020 07:33 AM

How old are the coils?

clickman 06-01-2020 08:12 AM

Thanks for responding husker

They are original...

But 2 going at the same time?

BYprodriver 06-01-2020 08:48 AM

I would 1st make sure all the wires are properly attached to the coils, it's easy to not fully connect them. If all is tight there, pull out the whole coil pack & remove & inspect the spark plugs. Should be able to see which are dirty or wearing.

clickman 06-01-2020 10:45 AM

Thanks for the suggestion BYPro. Checking the wires was already on my list for this weekend.
Again, though, two at the same time?

clickman 06-19-2020 09:45 AM

To close the circle:

Checked the wires and coils. Nothing loose.
Cleared the codes and started up.
Codes didn't come back (have been thru a few drive cycles since.). No feel of misfires.
Tapping was still there. Went for a gentle drive for about 10 miles and it went away. Hasn't come back (knock on wood.)

Thanks again for the responses.

BYprodriver 06-20-2020 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickman (Post 618044)
Thanks for the suggestion BYPro. Checking the wires was already on my list for this weekend.
Again, though, two at the same time?

A misfire in one cylinder can setup a misfire in the next cylinder. Just look at the spark plugs in each to see how they are firing.

I see you are in Canada, if the coil "boot" allows water/rain to get past the coil boot it can misfire.


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