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For what it's worth, when the AOS on my mom's '06 987 failed it wouldn't allow a restart, and also had oil in the intake, exhaust, and cylinders. That's been three years ago now, and aside from a thorough cleaning and a new AOS, it's been fine.
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All the liquid I'm seeing come out of the motor is oil. I've seen no indication of coolant in the oil. Peering into the expansion tank, I see no indication of oil in the coolant. The couple of specs found in the oil filter are probably not horrible, given the nearly 150k miles on the motor. ?? I'm really hopeful I've dodged the big bullet here. But the are enough things concerning me that I'm probably going to take it slow over the winter. Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk |
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Couple questions: 1. is the green cam plug the same plug used on the OTHER end of the intake cam? The missing plug is the one above the scavenge pump on the left side. I don't see more than one cam plug listed on pelican. 2. Are you suggesting that this is a wet plug? That if it's removed there would be oil leaking? Because there is no sign of oil around the crooked plugs, nor is there any sign of it around the hole that seems to be missing the plug altogether. Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk |
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So, help?
What should be plugging this? (This is the front end of the left side intake cam.) And what would cause it to go missing? https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...6a0ed53064.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ac8067cebe.jpg Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk |
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Hopefully someone can share some light on this (JFP perhaps?) |
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Put the cam plugs back in, and if your missing a cam plug, it’s probably at the track somewhere.. Once all of the cam plugs are back in, in theory you shouldn’t have any more big air leaks into the crankcase. Once you put in the new AOS, the car should run better (probably runs rough right now because it’s sucking way more crankcase air than it should due to: 1) the diaphram in the AOS is probably punctured or ripped, which means it won’t be able to regulate the vacuuum it’s supposed to maintain in the crankcase. The diaphram uses differential air pressure (vacuums, in this case), to function, and with a punctured diaphram, the diaphram will leak pressure to the other side. 2) cam plugs not being in - which will leak lots of air into the crankcase, just like opening the oil cap when the car is running, it will make the engine run poorly.. the AOS’s regulator would open up as much as it can to try to achieve a low vacuum level inside the crankcase, but it won’t be able to achieve it - because too much air is leaking into the engine from the hole (cam plug missing or not seated, or if the oil cap is off). With the regulator fully open, a very large amount of air will be flowing from the crankcase, through the AOS, and into the intake manifold. It enters the engine after the mass air flow sensor, so the engine won’t know about how large the vacuum leak is. It would try to adjust using feedback from o2 sensors (but only once they are fully warmed up), otherwise they’ll be ignored when the engine is cold, and the computer will have no idea it’s sucking in way too much air for the amount of fuel it knows it should have to put in. |
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Sounds nice.... but probably i'll do exactly as the rest of you do.... haha. Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk |
I wish the carrera’s AOS was as easy to replace as it is for the Boxsters..
In my Canadian province, emission tests consists of just plugging into the OBDII port, and looking at warnings and how many of the sensors are at their ready state. I highly doubt an oil catch can will caught. Besides, it could be designed to be easily removable. I think it’s good “insurance” , to at least reduce the amount of oil ingested and mitigate damage. There is currently no backup in our AOS system, as it stands now. It would have to be checked regularly though, because if it’s ignored and there’s an issue, it won’t help if it’s basically full of oil already. If I create a kickstarter campaign, would there be serious interest? I’m a mechanical engineer (for better or worse), and have access to CFD software, if it’s needed. If so, PM me, with your email address, and your car year and model. If I get enough interest I’ll put a kit together. Alternatively, if you are going to seriously fit one, please say so, actually follow through, and follow up with photos and test results. I don’t want to do it if you are going to do it. I’m sick of not having a solution for this. |
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Check this out: https://www.ecstuning.com/b-turner-motorsport-parts/complete-turner-baffled-oil-catch-can-kit-standard-flow-6oz/022798tms01-09kt/#tabProductDetails https://www.ecstuning.com/b-turner-motorsport-parts/complete-turner-baffled-oil-catch-can-kit-standard-flow-6oz/022798tms01-09kt/#tabProductDetails |
Hmm, that's interesting. I wonder if anyone has tried it on their Boxster yet. For years these kind of catch cans were used in racing cars, but I don't know how they would work with an engine like our flat-6s that have more extreme challenges than most engine configurations in regards to venting the crankcase.
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does the crankcase need to be under vacuum or just vented?
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I think the vacuum is important. Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk |
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Can anyone tell me what size (diameter) hose connects the Throttle-Body to the AOS?
I'm going to experiment with a small catch-can plumbed-in there, to catch any/all oil that gets past the AOS, give it a place to condense the vapors and then catch & contain what remains. My hope is that I can end the small smoke-bombs that plague me at the track. Despite how common they are on Boxsters, I keep getting black-flagged for them, and I need them to go away. It seems to me that as long as this added catch-can & associated connections remain air-tight, then the added volume to the system is probably unimportant. (any disagreements?) Any reasons you can think of that this won't work? |
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I replaced them once on my 987 and the by the type of the connectors I don't thing that would be very easy to do unless you modify the way the hoses connect with the entire AOS breather system. Out of curiosity, why don't you just but two new accordion hoses and replace the old ones? You would be back in business in no time (IMHO).. . |
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What I'm trying to do is eliminate the smoke-bombs which plague Boxster owners at the track, by installing a catch-can after the AOS and before the TB. This would (I'm postulating here) catch whatever amount of liquid oil momentarily overwhelms the AOS. |
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