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Strawfordt 08-04-2006 02:54 PM

Fuel Gauge Reading
 
Everyone's been very helpful here....Thank you.

Has any one had a problem with their fuel gauge? After filling I'm getting a tank reading of about 3/4 full. Maybe i"m getting an early shut off and leaving the tank empty.

Please share your experiences.

All the best

Strawfordt 08-10-2006 12:23 PM

No one has had a fuel tank reading concern???? Bummer.

70Sixter 08-10-2006 12:29 PM

This is all I found in one search:

http://986forum.com/forums/performance-technical-chat/4435-3-4-full-gets.html?highlight=fuel+guage

Strawfordt 08-10-2006 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70Sixter

Thanks Mike.

Not worth the hassle. I guess i'll be leaving it then.

Sammy 08-10-2006 01:10 PM

I can't say that I have had fuel reading concerns but what I can say is that I had trouble with my fuel gauge. The fuel gauge would take 10 miles after I left a gas station to finally read full. The needle moved that slow! The dealer replaced the sending unit and that did not fix it. They finally replaced the gauge cluster and all is well now. Can't help with your concern but can confirm issues with the gauge.

derb 08-10-2006 02:44 PM

Strawfordt,
Once again I have the same problem going on. My fuel gauge will read just under 2/4 after a fill-up. It will go to 4/4 once in a while. Once the fuel level drops past the stuck position of the gauge needle the needle follows the tank level. Right now I just fill-up after about 250 miles and it only takes about 10 gallons.
Once or twice I have been able to get the guage to read correctly by just turning the key on and off several times.
It's annoying as RandallNeighbour has posted. I also have never had a fuel gauge problem with any vehicle I've ever owned.
I'll get it fixed eventually but it's not at the top of the 'things to fix' list for my '99. The list is quite long so I put this near the bottom.
Sorry I have no solution but I feel your pain- along with Randall's pain.

Regards,

derb

Strawfordt 08-17-2006 09:35 PM

Derb

Quote:

Originally Posted by derb
I'll get it fixed eventually but it's not at the top of the 'things to fix' list for my '99. The list is quite long so I put this near the bottom.

What else is on your list. I'm finding new opportunities (read problems) all the time.

My nightmare is the RMS leak. Downright infuriating. Dealer says he can replace the RMS but he cannot guarantee that it will not leak again. Even with the Cayenne RMS. Dealer said that if you're not a daily driver then the seals dry out a little and then tend to leak. At the same time the dealer said "he wouldn't be too concerned until the vehicle strated spraying out oil"

Scary advice, don't you think?

Padawan 10-21-2007 03:15 PM

I have this exact same problem, where the gauge will only show 3/4 full when I've "filled" the tank. I can't tell whether the tank is actually completely filling, or whether the gas pump is somehow tripping too early and not giving a complete fill. It's a bit annoying, and I'm curious if this is a common issue, and/or if there's a simple fix?

Cloudsurfer 10-23-2007 06:59 AM

I have the opposite problem, which only occurred since I swapped clusters for a 996 cluster. Mine consistently reads optimistic, which I have concluded I need to go through the calibration process and that should cure my situation.

In yours, I would first pull out the sender, look at it, clean it, test the voltage it puts out, and see if that doesn't help. If the sender appears to be working properly, you may need a recalibration.

Patrick

Strawfordt 10-29-2007 06:58 PM

Recalibration????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bmwm750
I have the opposite problem, which only occurred since I swapped clusters for a 996 cluster. Mine consistently reads optimistic, which I have concluded I need to go through the calibration process and that should cure my situation.

In yours, I would first pull out the sender, look at it, clean it, test the voltage it puts out, and see if that doesn't help. If the sender appears to be working properly, you may need a recalibration.

Patrick

Okay, that is interesting. How does one perform a recalibration of the fuel gauge?

I might just go for this one.

Tom

Cloudsurfer 10-30-2007 02:37 AM

Ask your dealer, its a very specific process that involves draining the tank, adding a specified level of fuel, and calibrating with the PST.

Patrick

j.fro 10-30-2007 04:31 PM

Porsche TSB for this
 
I've got the same problem on my 2000 S. The fuel gauge reads 3/4 after a fill up, sometimes goes up after a while, sometimes not. It seems to be accurate from 1/2 on down. Porsche has issued a Technical Service bulletin for this. It involves untangling some of the wires, hoses, and fuel gauge float in the fuel tank. It doesn't look to be too much trouble. I'll have a go at it Saturday and let you all know how it goes.

Padawan 10-30-2007 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j.fro
I'll have a go at it Saturday and let you all know how it goes.

Please do! :cheers:

j.fro 11-04-2007 01:43 PM

Ugh!
 
Well, most of the job was very straight forward. I pulled the sender unit per the TSB instructions. The fuel lines tied together with the cable ties were off a bit. I cut the ties and freed everything up per the TSB. However, after I had just about everything back together, I needed to disconnect a fuel line from the top of the sender again...and the plastic fitting broke. :mad: Looks like I'll be buying a whole new sending unit. Damn.

Padawan 11-04-2007 07:20 PM

Man, that stinks. :(

Where were you able to access the TSB and instructions? My fuel gauge is getting to the point where it's no longer "quirky" to me, just plain annoying.

j.fro 11-05-2007 01:37 AM

try renntech.org
You'll need to contribute $25, but it's worth it.

j.fro 11-20-2007 02:28 PM

update on fuel gauge
 
After my mistake (breaking my original fuel sending unit) and the salvage yard's mistake (shipping the wrong sending unit), I've finally got my car back together. The good news is that the fuel gauge reads perfectly now! The Porsche TSB for 2001 and earlier 986/996 says that the cause of an erroneous fuel gauge reading is the way the two fuel hoses are zip tied together. They advise removing the old ties and retying the hoses so that they are perfectly parallel. I simply removed the ties and made sure that they are out of the way of the float (they weren't before). Unfortunately, I can't tell you that this will do the trick, because I ended up having to replace the entire sending unit. What I can tell you is that I got a used sending unit from DC auto for $75. I figure that I'm still ahead vs taking it to someone else. Here's a bit of wisdom that I gained from this: First, be very careful with the plastic fittings on your sending unit. Age, heat, and gasoline will make them brittle. Second, in 2002, Porsche changed the sending unit. The later ones are waaay different. And finally, be absolutely certain you hear a click when reattaching those quick-disconnect fuel lines, then, give it a tug straight back to make sure it is secure.

Padawan 11-20-2007 03:05 PM

Thank you for this insight. I probably won't get to this until after the winter, but could you rate the difficult of the entire job? I tried checking out Renntech, but didn't turn up much helpful information.

porsche986spyder 11-21-2007 07:14 AM

Easy fix but not a cure!
 
Okay, there is an easy way to get the correct fuel reading. I have this same problem with my car. I found this out just by chance. This is for anyone getting slow fuel readings after fill up when you know you have a full tank or have just added more gas but it doesn't show it at first and then shows it slowly rise up after driving it for a while. The easiest way to get a correct reading is to turn your ignition key to the on position, all the way to the right, but without starting the vehicle up. Leave it in this position and then begin filling your gas tank up. While it is filling you can even sit in the drivers seat and watch the fuel needle go up along with the digital reading. Works every time and you will never have to guess if your car has a full tank of gas or not. After you start your car the levels WILL stay at the last reading. This works on partial fill ups as well. It's not a perm. fix, but it sure saves you money instead of having the fuel sensor/sendor unit replaced which is the main cause of this problem. Or paying the dealership to have it re-calibrated, which also seems to fix the problem. I would rather just sit and wait instead of spending a small fortune to get a correct gas reading. :D

Padawan 11-21-2007 12:46 PM

Thanks, but the problem I'm experiencing, and the one that j.fro was discussing is an actual issue with the fuel level reading itself. Regardless of how full my tank is, it will never register more than 5/8 - 3/4 or so. The problem appears to be with the float getting caught or stuck somehow inside the tank, which is what the TSB seems to address.

j.fro 11-21-2007 03:29 PM

Given that I had the Bentley manual and the TSB, it was a very easy job; maybe a 2 on a scale of 1-10. The manual and the TSB told me everything that I needed to disconnect and how to disconnect those things. The toughest bit is unscrewing the ring that holds the sending unit in the fuel tank. It takes a special tool, so you'll either have to get the tool or get creative.

trunkmonkey 01-09-2008 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Padawan
I have this exact same problem, where the gauge will only show 3/4 full when I've "filled" the tank. I can't tell whether the tank is actually completely filling, or whether the gas pump is somehow tripping too early and not giving a complete fill. It's a bit annoying, and I'm curious if this is a common issue, and/or if there's a simple fix?

I have this problem too but in my case the gas tank is not actually full and the pump is just auto-shutoff. I found this info about it:
http://www.986faq.com/10-0/problems.asp#018

Mine is a 987 2007, the dealer says they can't reproduce the problem so they wont fix it. anyone have this issue with a 987?

porsche986spyder 01-09-2008 12:05 PM

Simple And Easy Fix! Works Every Time.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trunkmonkey
I have this problem too but in my case the gas tank is not actually full and the pump is just auto-shutoff. I found this info about it:
http://www.986faq.com/10-0/problems.asp#018

Mine is a 987 2007, the dealer says they can't reproduce the problem so they wont fix it. anyone have this issue with a 987?

I found the easiest and simplest way to get the correct reading NO MATTER WHAT MODEL BOXSTER you have is to fill your tank up with the key turned to the far right, the "ON" position that will display your readings. Of course do not turn the car on so the engine starts. Simply fill your tank up and you can watch the gas gauge fill while you sit in your car. You will never get a false reading this way and it will "FILL UP" to the full mark on the tank reading this way. :cheers:

Padawan 01-09-2008 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche986spyder
I found the easiest and simplest way to get the correct reading NO MATTER WHAT MODEL BOXSTER you have is to fill your tank up with the key turned to the far right, the "ON" position that will display your readings. Of course do not turn the car on so the engine starts. Simply fill your tank up and you can watch the gas gauge fill while you sit in your car. You will never get a false reading this way and it will "FILL UP" to the full mark on the tank reading this way. :cheers:

You're mistakenly assuming that the fuel sending unit is functioning correctly, which it doesn't seem to be in certain cases, hence the TSB discussed in this thread. Incidentally, mine must have somehow freed itself (temporarily, at least) and finally registered a full tank at my last few fill-ups. I never thought I'd be so pleased to simply have a fuel gauge that works. :D

RandallNeighbour 01-09-2008 12:34 PM

Just to add what I'm learning about this issue, which my car has as well (full = 5/8 reading), I read that there is a fuel tank vent valve can be bad or the fuse for it (E8??) has burned out.

I have also discovered that my tank wasn't totally full when the pump clicked off automatically. I had to dribble in the last gallon or two to get it to fill up and raise the needle to 7/8.

However, I still have a problem with an accurate reading. Just once since I replaced my sending unit and had it calibrated by my mechanic (requires a PST tool) has the car read 4/4 when it was full. Grrr!

One other issue is that when I am at 1/4, the low fuel light comes on brightly. Seems a little premature, even though one should not run to empty in our cars (remaining fuel keeps the fuel pump cool and from overheating).

I have yet to check my fuses, but I just might go home tonight and make a bee-line for the garage to check this out.

This problem has always frustrated me about owning my car!

rdancd816 01-09-2008 12:55 PM

On my Boxster the auto shut-off occurs at approx. 7/8 full. On level ground if I run about two more squeezes into the tank it will actually go past the "full" line. I try to keep the tank over 1/4 full since I don't trust the fuel gage. Recently I did run it down till the near empty light began to glow. When I filled it the car took 13.4 gallons.

vetman 07-26-2021 06:46 PM

Fuel Gauge Reading
 
got delivery of the 98 with 1/2 tank. Driving and gauge steadily going down. When the red light came on, I filled the tank with gas. The gauge never indicated a full tank but read about 1/8 and after 30 miles, red light came back on. I know the gas went into the tank.
With the Durametric, I can get the gauge to read 1/2 and full, so I guess its the sender? Why did it work until I filled the tank. I did swervy thing like warming the tires to see if I could shake it loose, but no.


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