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njbray 01-16-2017 09:32 AM

Battery problem?
 
Lately I have been having problems with my battery running down after leaving the car idle for 4 or 5 days.
The nearly new battery has tested good and the nearly new alternator has tested good.
So I decided to do a parasitic draw test. I had a draw of 2.6 to 3 amps. which turned out to be the radio/cd unit.
Anyone know if this is normal? The radio does have a small flashing led but not sure if this is the draw.
I also did an overnight battery test. I disconnected it, it tested 12.4v at 8pm and the next morning at 8am it was 12.0v. I'm not sure if that is a normal drop for 12 hours.

Any ideas appreciated.

alm001 01-16-2017 09:44 AM

2.6 - 3a is way high. Your battery probably has 120aH of capacity so in about 40hrs, you'll have a dead battery

Start unplugging stuff... I would start with the easy stuff - disconnect cd changer, check current draw, then move on to the amp (assuming you have the factory amp)

particlewave 01-16-2017 09:49 AM

Check the stereo to make sure that the memory and power wires aren't reversed.

mikefocke 01-16-2017 11:35 AM

That is not a normal overnight drop. The 24 hours drop should be almost unmeasurable.

And the starting point should be in the 12.6 to 12.8 (conventional - AGM) range

The draw on the battery in circuit after 60 some minutes should be 30/1000 of an amp.

You have checked the grounding strap and all the connections I suppose. Measured the charging voltage at 3k RPM.

Boxtaboy 01-16-2017 11:49 AM

I turned off the flashing LED of the radio (thru the settings). There's really no need for it.

njbray 01-16-2017 12:36 PM

[QUOTE=mikefocke;522996]That is not a normal overnight drop. The 24 hours drop should be almost unmeasurable.

That drop was the battery disconnected - I am starting to think my battery may be the problem. I have charged it for 7 hours and it is at 12.4v. It never seems to get any higher.

I'm gonna try and charge it up (disconnected from car) to 12.6 and leave it overnight again to see if it drops again.

Steve Tinker 01-16-2017 12:47 PM

If the battery voltage is only 12.4v maximum after a 7 hour charge, then the battery is faulty.
As Mike indicated, 12.6v is the norm for a fully charged battery, while 12.4v is a ~70% charge.

njbray 01-16-2017 01:15 PM

Just to check that i am using my new multimeter correctly I'm enclosing 2 pics of how I set it up and the reading - it fluctuates between 0.25 and 0.1.
If I do not have it on the correct setting please let me know.

Thanks for all the help.http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1484604887.jpg
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Gelbster 01-16-2017 03:04 PM

You need to be more precise. Read the specs. The draw on the battery after you turn the car off will change over time as the systems take their time shutting down and eventually go into sleep mode. Someone may have those specs or Search.

mikefocke 01-16-2017 04:10 PM

[QUOTE=njbray;523006]
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikefocke (Post 522996)
That is not a normal overnight drop. The 24 hours drop should be almost unmeasurable.

That drop was the battery disconnected - I am starting to think my battery may be the problem. I have charged it for 7 hours and it is at 12.4v. It never seems to get any higher.

I'm gonna try and charge it up (disconnected from car) to 12.6 and leave it overnight again to see if it drops again.

Sorry I wasn't clear. The 24 hours disconnected drop on the battery should be to no lower than 12.8 for a normal battery and 12.6 for AGM.

I presume you can get to a battery shop which should be able to both test the alternator output voltage and load test the battery. Or even just take the battery fully charged to the shop out of the car.

If not, buy or borrow a load testing battery tester.

Ah the problem with written communication, You can't tell when the person doesn't understand and you have to wait for a written query when a furrowed brow would have given you the clue.

mikefocke 01-16-2017 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gelbster (Post 523036)
You need to be more precise. Read the specs. The draw on the battery after you turn the car off will change over time as the systems take their time shutting down and eventually go into sleep mode. Someone may have those specs or Search.

Sure we do here.

jcslocum 01-16-2017 04:32 PM

Looks like you need a new battery. Get the bigger option for your Box if you have the regular sized battery.

I just fought something like this on an eleven month old battery. Solved a few different issues once a new one was installed.

Gelbster 01-16-2017 04:54 PM

How would a bigger battery be better - in Santa Barabara? In a cold area ,perhaps.

Lew 01-16-2017 08:24 PM

Check out https://www.batteriesplus.com Stores in many areas around the US....You can locate a store nearest you using your zip code on the site....

jcslocum 01-17-2017 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gelbster (Post 523045)
How would a bigger battery be better - in Santa Barabara? In a cold area ,perhaps.

Why not? More Amps, more of everything a battery does. More weight too :-( . But more battery is probably better.

mikefocke 01-17-2017 07:43 AM

Larger battery is typically for auto trans cars, in the 986's case, a TIP.

Gelbster 01-17-2017 07:45 AM

In a mild climate like the OP has, there is no advantage to an oversize battery.
Hence the choice made by Porsche. An oversize battery is just more expensive and more weight - two things an engineer tries to avoid.It is different in a cold climate - hence the space for a larger battery.
For local reference a 700cca battery(regular size/capacity for a Boxster) easily starts my 6 Liter Cummins turbo diesel on the coldest days in S.California. It uses the same size as the Boxster. And that is one heluva lot more compression and mass to rotate and power glow plugs and a pre-heater - compared to an M96

Gelbster 01-17-2017 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikefocke (Post 523087)
Larger battery is typically for auto trans cars, in the 986's case, a TIP.

Yup. To be specific the specification is a 94R (TIP) vs a 48R(manual trans).

njbray 01-17-2017 11:31 AM

UPDATE:
Sooo... I charged up battery yesterday (still in car but disconnected) to 12.8 at 4pm Monday. Just tested it at 12 midday today and it is 12.1
Makes me thinK it's a dud cell.
I think it's back to Costco to replace with another Interstate 700cca battery.

jcslocum 01-17-2017 07:03 PM

The car could be in Devon, UK...


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