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Hi Tom,
thanks for the feedback. Because the engine was cold i the values are OK – engine should run with this values on all 6 cylinders. Could you please check these things:
Hope that helps or maybe get's you another idea what you still can test. Regards and fingers crossed Markus PS: it's always a bit tricky for me to describe these things in english, because i don't always know the correct technical terms. If something is misleading, please ask. |
I know it's 5 pages long and a lot to read, but a lot of your questions have already been answered by the OP.
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Bought a non-running 1998 Base Boxster with 96000 miles. stored in a barn in the desert south of Sierra Vista, AZ about 10 miles from Mexico. I could find no one in Phoenix or Tucson to go there and do a PPI. Replaced: Spark plugs Spark plug tubes Fuel filter Fuel pump Fuel sender unit Fuel pressure regulator AOS and J-tube Fuel pressure test is 3.8 bars, no real leak down Compression test numbers are above Have spark at all spark plugs Noid light shows all injectors firing Corrected the vacuum leak at the intake manifold Cleaned the MAF. Car will not start if MAF is disconnected So at this point, I should have fuel, air, and spark. I have not tested the O2 sensors. No CEL is being thrown. Durametric shows no codes being thrown. I also have not cleaned the IACV or the throttle body. I think that's about it. At this point, I'll install the new spark plugs I have and give it a go. |
Tom; I think your compression numbers are way low. Even cold you should see 145 psi or more. Hot compression should be 180+ psi. Since plugs are out a simple test might be to get a helper and some chopsticks then with chopstick on top of piston mark chopstick at TDC then roll engine by hand and get BDC measurement all cylinders. Then compare to each cylinder.
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What is the compression specification for the 2.5 liter engine? I've searched and searched. I see a post by Jake Raby that says it should be over 200. I see others by JFP that says around 145 and that the results should be within 15 percent of each other.
911monty. I like your suggestion. It's a test for a bent rod. I will have to find a patient helper. My wife doesn't mind cranking it over, but to get her to actually turn an engine by hand is a definite NO. |
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I believe 200+ is for the 3.2.
The 2.5 should see 140's cold. Your #'s are a bit low, but not too bad for a 2.5 with higher miles. What's important is the variation from one cylinder to the next (you want them within about 10% of each other). I think your compression #'s look fine. Leak down? |
Compression ratio on a 2.5 is 11.1. AT sea level this would be approx. 165 psi.
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On a new engine. ;)
As sleeves, rings and valve seals wear, that number drops. A leak down test would probably support this. |
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Still the question if the exhaust system is free - no clogged cats. Sorry, but this is a very important questions and i'm sorry if i overread that. Don't wan't to bore anybody.
Also the 2.5 has a variable valve system. So compression rate can vary. Even if they are lower / low on the left bank it should run on all cylinders. But if you listen to tada's video it only runs on 3 cylinders. Regards, Markus |
Thanks for all of the input. I ordered a exhaust pressure tester and will check for a clogged catalytic converter tomorrow. I will play around with finding TDC and BDC tonight. Thanks again, Tom
And by the way Markus, your English is excellent. Far better than my German could ever be. |
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Have you checked the cam timing? My engine sounded just like your video when my bank 2 timing was off.
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I had similar symptoms but not exactly. I got engine check light and it started dying whilst I was sat in traffic. I could rev it but as soon as I let off the gas it would either die or seems like its about to die. Problem turned out to be one of the solenoids, and fyi, it is quite expensive. I would try to check them out, although I'm not quite sure how.
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Just read an article on cam timing. Can this be done without dropping the engine?
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I can tell you from past experience that it is possible to check the cam timing without dropping the engine. Checking the timing only requires being able to rotate the engine to TDC and removing the 6 green plugs. I used the camera on my phone to take pictures of the cam notches so it was easier to see. This post had some good information that might be useful: http://986forum.com/forums/performance-technical-chat/26418-diy-setting-cam-timing-m96.html |
Yes -pin TDC @ the crank pulley, remove blue camshaft plug (you will need new one) on offending cylinders and check slots on end of camshaft lines up with marks as per article.
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Before I got the chopsticks out and started measuring cylinder stroke to check for a bent rod, I popped the camshaft plug on bank 2 and looked at the timing. A couple of pics are shown below of the crank at TDC and the position of the camshaft. The phone camera was as level and as close as I could get. Imagine taking these with a 35mm camera? So, what do you all think? Pretty close.
https://flic.kr/p/GkziwW https://flic.kr/p/FysP4r |
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