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View Poll Results: What type of oil filter do you use
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Factory - No Autocross or track use
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55.93% |
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Factory - Autocross use
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1.69% |
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Factory - Track use
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3.39% |
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Factory - Both Autocross and track use
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3.39% |
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Spinon w/ adaptor - No Autocross or track use
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27.12% |
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Spinon w/ adaptor - Autocross use
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3.39% |
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Spinon w/ adaptor - Track use
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1.69% |
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Spinon w/ adaptor - Both Autocross and track use
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12-14-2015, 11:24 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Since I have a Flat-6 Innovations IMS Solution (which uses a spin on filter adapter)...
I use a Flat-6 recommended NAPA Gold filter.
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12-14-2015, 01:12 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: St. Petersburg, Florida
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Wow, 50/50 so far...I'm also highly considering the LN spin-on adapter, but my only concern is the lack of a safety/by-pass mechanism...
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12-15-2015, 12:27 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: LB, Germany
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Hi,
i use the factory system. Replaced the OEM filter housing last year and allways use the OEM MANN oil filter.
Do not track the car on race tracks, but i think some windy black forest or alps roads will be more stressing for engine and brakes than Autocross.
Regards from Germany
Markus
Last edited by Smallblock454; 12-15-2015 at 12:32 AM.
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12-15-2015, 06:50 AM
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2003 S, Arctic Silver, M6
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Winnipeg, MB, Canada
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I use the stock oil filter set up with Mahle filters. The car has an IMS Guardian installed, I change my oil at 5K km and cut/inspect the filter each time as well as check the magnets on the Guardian for anything.
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12-15-2015, 07:27 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Seadweller
Wow, 50/50 so far...I'm also highly considering the LN spin-on adapter, but my only concern is the lack of a safety/by-pass mechanism...
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I am NO expert, but I'm pretty sure standard, spin-on filters have bypass capability by design.
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12-15-2015, 07:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pnut
I am NO expert, but I'm pretty sure standard, spin-on filters have bypass capability by design.
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No, not all have them, and quite plainly, they are not always either needed or useful.
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12-15-2015, 08:28 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2014
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OK, but I didn't learn anything.  When I look at my hot water tank, it's designed to let water escape the tank to relieve pressure. I'm pretty sure an oil filter bypass (whatever the design) just bypasses the filter material, correct? So, while it's not ideal to circulate unfiltered oil, it's better than starvation by blockage or loss of oil if it were to somehow escape the sealed system.
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12-15-2015, 08:28 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Between Kingston and Toronto
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Just for interest, what was the purpose of the oil by-pass on the flat 6?
I have the LN kit on my 99'.
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12-15-2015, 08:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pnut
OK, but I didn't learn anything. When I look at my hot water tank, it's designed to let water escape the tank to relieve pressure. I'm pretty sure an oil filter bypass (whatever the design) just bypasses the filter material, correct? So, while it's not ideal to circulate unfiltered oil, it's better than starvation by blockage or loss of oil if it were to somehow escape the sealed system. |
The problem is that allowing unfiltered contaminated oil to circulate is just going to make an already very bad problem even worse. If your oil filter is so plugged with metal that the bypass opens, your engine is already gone and will have to come out and apart. Continuing to circulate contaminated oil is just going to tear it up more.
By far, the largest negative to bypass systems, and to the M96/97 engine in particular is that the bypass fails and none of the oil is ever filtered. And if you think this is a remote chance thing, do a search on the subject; it happens a lot with the OEM filter set up.
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Last edited by JFP in PA; 12-15-2015 at 08:43 AM.
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12-15-2015, 09:21 AM
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I first heard about the LN spin-on adapter on this forum. The reasoning, as you stated, seems sound... it's a cheap safety precaution as far as I'm concerned, so I got one. I'm more curious to know about the bypass function (or lack thereof) on spin-on filters and if not having that functionality on a 986 could be considered risky practice?
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12-15-2015, 10:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pnut
I first heard about the LN spin-on adapter on this forum. The reasoning, as you stated, seems sound... it's a cheap safety precaution as far as I'm concerned, so I got one. I'm more curious to know about the bypass function (or lack thereof) on spin-on filters and if not having that functionality on a 986 could be considered risky practice?
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The use of oil bypass systems are a hold over from when the only oils you could buy were conventional straight weight oils, which could demonstrate high viscosity/poor flow characteristics under cold conditions. To make the engine's easier to spin over and prevent oil starvation or filter damage on cold start, OEM's used bypass valves in the oil systems. With modern multi weight full synthetic oils and pressure regulation built into oil pumps, these situations simply do not occur, making the bypass system unnecessary.
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12-15-2015, 11:02 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2014
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ahhhh... NOW I've been school'd.
Thank you, good Sir.
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12-15-2015, 11:39 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Between Kingston and Toronto
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Thanks JFP! That is what I wanted to know so I can understand.
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12-15-2015, 11:42 AM
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On the slippery slope
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Austin and Palm Springs
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once again, great info from JFP
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12-15-2015, 12:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GaryMulcahey
Thanks JFP! That is what I wanted to know so I can understand.
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Which is always a good thing.
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12-16-2015, 07:34 AM
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Location: Austin, TX
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Hengst. No spin on here.
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12-16-2015, 11:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelbster
Try a filter magnet hack by re-purposing old neodymium hard drive magnets ? Lots if you Google it.
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Anything to reduce the amount of microscopic metal suspended in your oil is a good thing and cheap proactive maintenance.
DIY Magnetic Oil Filtering
The engine is a multitude of moving part rubbing against each other so there is bound to be some metal now and then, but if there is nothing to catch it and remove it from the oil, it will erode metal to metal parts, cause blockages and reduced oil feeding and worst case cause major failures.
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