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Boxy_02 06-11-2015 04:06 PM

Building a 3.2L
 
Hi There!

I am a new owner of a 2002 base Boxster with 103,000 miles, but in great condition.
I am looking at building up a 3.2L Engine to replace the 2.7. The car is an automatic transmission - my question is: Does the donor Engine I am going to start with have to come from original Automatic Car? or does it not matter if it was a Manual transmission car? Are the blocks the same?

Thanks!

Dlirium 06-11-2015 04:22 PM

build a v8!

78F350 06-11-2015 04:44 PM

The engine itself, does not need to be an automatic. There are some peripheral items that you can swap, such as the wiring harness and the plumbing. Some minor vacuum hose changes. Flywheel will need to be from (or new for) a 3.2 automatic

There are other considerations regarding year for the sensors, DME/ECU, throttle, etc.

Read this yet?
Porsche Boxster Engine Conversion Project - 986 / 987 (1997-08) - Pelican Parts Technical Article

Buy the 101 projects book to get started.

KRAM36 06-11-2015 06:23 PM

I would sell it and buy one with a 3.2l engine in it.

JAAY 06-11-2015 06:33 PM

3.8. Done.

KRAM36 06-11-2015 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAAY (Post 453459)
3.8. Done.

Even doing this I would start out with an S model. There is more to the S then just a 3.2l engine.

mikefocke 06-12-2015 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRAM36 (Post 453462)
Even doing this I would start out with an S model. There is more to the S then just a 3.2l engine.

Yes, the brakes and suspension are "better".

But I had more legal fun in my 2.5 than my 3.2.

Jake Raby 06-12-2015 08:00 AM

Or just build a 3.6/3.8/4.0/4.2 from your OEM 2.7 core

Yes, I can.

Dlirium 06-12-2015 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikefocke (Post 453503)
Yes, the brakes and suspension are "better".

But I had more legal fun in my 2.5 than my 3.2.

Huh? You're not making any sense at all...

Porsche9 06-12-2015 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake Raby (Post 453523)
Or just build a 3.6/3.8/4.0/4.2 from your OEM 2.7 core

Yes, I can.

What can you build from a 3.2?

mikefocke 06-12-2015 03:48 PM

Well if you measure fun by how hard your right foot presses for how long and how you have to drive the car and not just get tugged along by a big displacement, then my 2.5 was more fun than my 3.2 even though, by measurements, the 3.2 was better.

My 3 prior roadsters were all less than 100HP (1.3, 1.6, 1.6) cars so my 2.5's 200HP felt more than adequate. I drove the Alfas/914 harder than any of my Boxsters.

The Spec Boxster race cars are only 2.5s, BTW.

Just a different way of looking at things.

Boxy_02 06-12-2015 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 78F350 (Post 453445)
The engine itself, does not need to be an automatic. There are some peripheral items that you can swap, such as the wiring harness and the plumbing. Some minor vacuum hose changes. Flywheel will need to be from (or new for) a 3.2 automatic

There are other considerations regarding year for the sensors, DME/ECU, throttle, etc.

Read this yet?
Porsche Boxster Engine Conversion Project - 986 / 987 (1997-08) - Pelican Parts Technical Article

Buy the 101 projects book to get started.

Yes! I did pick up the book, just didn't get the chance to go thru it yet.

Gilles 06-12-2015 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikefocke (Post 453608)
My 3 prior roadsters were all less than 100HP (1.3, 1.6, 1.6) cars so my 2.5's 200HP felt more than adequate.

I drove the Alfas/914 harder than any of my Boxsters.

.

Alfa's.. :-)
Care to elaborate..?

.

Jake Raby 06-12-2015 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche9 (Post 453583)
what can you build from a 3.2?

3.5, 3.6, 3.8, 3.9, 4.0, 4.1...

KRAM36 06-13-2015 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikefocke (Post 453503)
Yes, the brakes and suspension are "better".

But I had more legal fun in my 2.5 than my 3.2.

We already know the S has better cooling too and according to Renegade Hybrids it has a better drivetrain.

https://youtu.be/P67OSN2DqAE?t=409

mikefocke 06-13-2015 12:43 PM

Giulietta Veloce Spyder 1.3 1960 bought used 1965, blew head gasket in 1967 and was essentially destroyed by a dishonest mechanic who took my money to rebuild it and then abandoned it out in the open with the top open when I was deployed. Floor rusted through. Waved to go faster at 100MPH in Indianapolis after the 500 race by a city cop directing traffic out of the city.

Giulia Spyder 1.6 1966 bought used in 1968, sold to buy the 914. I actually used it sometimes to tow a 18 foot I/O boat from DC to Annapolis with this one.

914 1970 bought new, sold a week before the warranty ran out because of the incompetence of the parts and service dealer organizations in that era. The joke around work was it had a reserved spot at the dealer's waiting for repairs and parts. But when it ran, up to the hills of PA to skiing, it was my first taste of mid engine handling. I was still young and immortal. Replaced with BMW 2002 1970

Got married, had kids, drove to work in a series of just issued cars like the Plymouth Horizon, Nissan Sentra and such.

Once I had the kids mostly off the payroll and retirement money well in hand, then Boxsters ('99, '01S).

BYprodriver 06-14-2015 01:20 PM

Best thread in 3 years, somebody has to hijack it! :mad:

jsceash 06-14-2015 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boxy_02 (Post 453439)
Hi There!

I am a new owner of a 2002 base Boxster with 103,000 miles, but in great condition.
I am looking at building up a 3.2L Engine to replace the 2.7. The car is an automatic transmission - my question is: Does the donor Engine I am going to start with have to come from original Automatic Car? or does it not matter if it was a Manual transmission car? Are the blocks the same?

Thanks!

The harness from your motor will work with a 3.2 motor just swap it.
The vacuum system tubing can be moved to the donor engine as well.
Any similar year 3.2 motor will swap into a 2.7 car.

I have a 3.2 block from a tip running in a 2.7 manual chassis. You can pick up front S brake calipers on Ebay for cheap and replace the rotor for about the same price as new non-S rotors and brakes. Rear brake let alone same pads S or non-S.

Good luck have fun.

Boxy_02 06-14-2015 05:00 PM

Jake - sent you a PM.

Qmulus 06-14-2015 07:42 PM

I want to hear the reaction when he sees Jake's cost to make a 3.6...


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