where can I buy a water pump + engine mount
 

I need a motor mount for my 2000 boxster. I figured since I'm in that area to replace the water pump. I got about 86000 miles. Since I'm there should I change the belt out? I saw Pedro had an under pulley kit that's worth a few hp. Has anybody installed his kit? Lastly, can you point me to a motor mount and water pump. Ebay has water pumps going from 80 to 800 bucks. Thanks ahead.

Water pump

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/porsche-engine-water-pump-911-boxster-11243008314

Engine mount

Genuine Porsche Boxster Cayman Engine Mount Bracket | eBay

Try Pelican -great videos to help you too.

Best water pump deal here. I just got one. Factory original. My apology to Pelican in advance.

https://www.porschepartshub.com/index.php?p=login

I suppose you meant this as the link?

WATER PUMP | Genuine Porsche | 996-106-011-56

That's not the best deal. Pierburg is the OEM supplier to Porsche and the link I gave is cheaper with free shipping.

As far as the UPD. This is your best deal.

New Porsche 986 Boxster 4" Under Drive Pulley Kit with AC Tuners Motorsports | eBay

Actually, No. I gave the link to the site so he could pick his own part. As far as the part, Critical parts I will replace with factory. I'm not interested in stories like the expansion tank saga to save a few dollars... But that's me. Choices are up to the individual. Options though are fine. Guess I should have prefaced with best price on factory part.

I'm not so wild about FCP parts after installing some of their parts on BMWs and having them fail less than a year later. :mad:

I installed the kit from Pelican consisting of water pump, gasket, and low temp thermostat. Not the cheapest, not the most expensive. Works great.

2000 Porsche Boxster - Water Pump

I guess you're not understanding. Pierburg is a supplier of Porsche's water pumps. Just because it says genuine Porsche does not mean it's made by Porsche. Jake Raby stated that he only buys water pumps directly from Porsche and that he has seen them use 3 different suppliers.

http://986forum.com/forums/352848-post40.html

The pump is made by Pierburg, not FCP lol.

and that kit uses a Pierburg water pump.

I stay away from FCP because of the inferior products they sold me in the past, it cost me more than the cost of the parts. I installed their parts in for people because I believed in the products they sold. There is no need for them to profit from any future sales from me.

That sucks that you have had bad experiences with them. When I buy my next water pump, it will be a Pierburg water pump and if they are selling them cheaper then any other place, I'm buying it from them.

Just installed the "Pierburg" pump, purchased from FCP. Best price I could find for the Pierburg. $231.00 or thereabouts. Bought the "Lemfoerder" insert bushing only for the engine mount from Auto Parts Warehouse for about $40. incl. shipping. The guy at my local Carquest, who runs a machine shop next to the store, changed out the engine mount bushing on his press for 15 bucks. Total $65.
Not realizing that I had my new serpentine belt one groove off line on the crank shaft pulley, I shredded the inside edge of my new belt and had to get another one at the local NAPA, which I installed carefully with success. Belt at local NAPA, $28.

I Guess I'm Really not understanding.....
 

Kram
I appreciate the reply. I am confused by the referenced Jake quote which as I read it says he buys factory because, there are 3 different suppliers but the pumps are different. What I believe he is saying that OEM suppliers are typically prevented by their contract from using identical components as the "factory" piece and are usually inferior in quality. My concern on this particular component, which from reading this forum, is "critical" in that if it fails it can lose impeller fragments in cooling passages causing the heads/engine to fail. This is not where I choose to save money. In fact much the same as the infamous IMS bearing, (and this is only imaginary and not a real part..) if a manufacturer said " we have eliminated impeller failure by using ceramic bearing in a delrin race " I would probably pay twice as much for the part. Saving a few dollars while gambling a $10k failure is not in my opinion a good bet. Happy Bolstering!!

KRAM points out a fact far more useful than the OEM branded vs OEM supplier issue - and from an impeccable source.Too many sad M96 stories associated with w/p failures to just blow past this info.

The Porsche branded (obviously not made by Porsche) pump has been changed substantially 3 times - so we need to specifically identify the latest part number. If they have not changed the part number to denote an upgrade, we need to know how to identify the latest version. Until we do that, all the chattering about Pierburg/Geba vs plastic impellers vs metal is trivial.

*So can anyone tell us all what are the critical features of the latest w/p ? I ask because I am sure all the old versions will be discounted on EBay and with unwitting vendors .And fellow Forum members will fit them rejoicing at having 'saved'(??) a few bucks.
Is it 99610601156 +?

Monty said; "we have eliminated .. failure by using ceramic bearing in a...."
Oh no ,this is looking like an IMSB thread :-).
But you make a very useful point. Got DOF to go with that?

Gelbster; I was thinking more along the splash lubrication...by having the bearing inboard of the seal, and lubricated by the antifreeze mixture. No bearing failure, no impeller contact to block, no vanes break. When seal goes replace both.....WOW you're right!!! IMSB w/p!!! :cheers:

Bummer - so no opportunity for DOF ?

Sorry.....Too many years of the KISS principal.;)

More then likely you have a Pierburg made water pump in your car right now.

^^^ That could well be true ^^^ BUT which Pierburg version of the pump have you got in the car ??

As Gelbster says, there has been 3 substantial revisions to the Porsche branded water pump....
Pierburg could well be marketing the Mk I or MKII versions under their own banner and the latest MKIII is sold only in the Porsche packaging.....

Well that website he bought his from only gives you one option for a Boxster 986 water pump. For $255 which one do you think he got?

PUMP & HOSES for 2003 Porsche Boxster

EDIT: Can you give me a link on the MKIII water pump for a 986 Boxster. Only thing I can find pertaining to a Porsche MKIII water pump is for 2007-10 Cayennes.

I can't even find anything related to a Boxster 986 water pump using MK references.

Thanks!

KRAM - I was eluding to the number of revisions that Porsche have had on their coolant pumps. For instance I bought a genuine pump from Jake Raby in Sept 2010 with part #999-106-011-55 which has already been superseded by pump suffix#56 - see below for all the revisions.

Genuine Porsche Parts
Manufacturer: Porsche
Part Number: 996-106-011-56
Part: WATER PUMP
Replaces: 996-106-011-51, 996-106-011-53, 996-106-011-54, 996-106-011-55

All I am saying is there is no guarantee that other (cheaper) suppliers are selling you the latest updated pump....
And I'm sure nobody outside of Porsche and the manufacturer knows the difference between the models. Who knows, pumping volume, bearing size, impeller materials etc etc may all have been updated.

Gelbster - you are correct re latest pump # as far as I can find...

So are you suggesting this website is not being truthful on the part they are sending you?

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/porsche-engine-water-pump-911-boxster-11243008314

It specifically says part number 996-106-011-56. That's the latest version.

Not at all, thats the correct number in this instance, but re read what I said "All I am saying is there is no guarantee that other (cheaper) suppliers are selling you the latest updated pump..."
Not all suppliers are equally transparent.

True that. I don't think he got a Genuine Porsche water pump, in the meaning, one straight from Porsche for $255. He more then likely got a Pieburg water pump, which Porsche uses and what Porsche sends out as a Genuine Porsche part. He got a better deal on the same part, just not as cheap as he could have.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1429460846.jpg
Kram; First I am a Newby to water cooled Porsches. I can see that you spend a lot of time updating/improving your car so I am sure you have done a lot of research. The point I was attempting to make (excuse my brevity in previous posts) was that this is not a part to gamble with, since severe damage can result from cheap/inferior parts. The OP was looking on Ebay! Caveat Emptor is not worth saving a few bucks. While the Genuine part I was shipped is indeed made by Pierburg, I can rest assured it is Genuine and a quality part. Remember there are a lot of newby like me that look to this forum for guidance. "Porsche, accept no substitute!" Edit; Unless it is made better! Thanks to LN engineering and Jake .

Monty, what year is your Boxster? I noticed on the sticker of the box you poster it says they sent you an AS Water Pump. Even Pelican sells those for less and list them for only 97 and 98 model years only.

http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/SuperCat/986M/POR_986M_WATPMP_pg1.htm#item1

http://i59.tinypic.com/fm5ct5.jpg

I'm not sure what AS Water Pump means. Maybe Steve knows more about that.


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Good eye! I have a '98. The AS is interesting. Certainly have my curiosity!

Search ebay for the pump. There are new ones from $60 to $470(!). There are even people trying to sell used ones for $150. Unbelievable.

I replaced my water pump last year and compared the one I got to a new Porsche part as the shop I got it from ordered both to check. As far as we could tell, they were identical, including the part number.

If I had to do it over again, I would get that $470 one from ebay. It costs over two times what mine did, so it must be better, right? :rolleyes:

You ever figure out what the difference is with the AS Water Pump and the other Porsche Water Pump that's $63 more at Pelican?

No; What is interesting is it is for '97 and '98 cars exclusively, but the part number indicates it is good up to MY '04. The Pelican site has some interesting info if you click the part then go to the frequently asked section. I'm thinking has something to do with OES vs OEM.

I just sent Pelican a ticket asking what the differences are and why they are for 97 and 98 model years only.

I'm curious too.

I might suspect Aftermarket Supplier if it didn't say OEM. Let me know what you find. You're a bit of a night owl aren't you? Almost 1am there!

I retired from my job on April 10th, 2015. So I can stay up at late as I want too. 47 years old and feel like a teenager on summer break, staying up late, sleeping until 1pm lol.

Most of the time I stay up until my daughter has to get up for work, once she leaves I hit the sack. She has to be out the door by 3:15am and I want to make sure she doesn't oversleep.

I have Pedro's pulley - love it. No problems, been in....like 8 months maybe. Comes with a new belt that is the appropriate size for the new pulley.

Pedro also sells a motor mount - have it in and love it as well. If I remember correctly he gets the rubber directly from the OEM supplier, and it is equivalent to a 2008 Cayman S, which he felt was the best mount. He sells it already pressed, you just unbolt and re-bolt. And, he refunds you $50 for sending in your old core.

I think your on the right track. The reply back said "The only difference is who we buy the part from on 996-106-011-56-OEM ". No explanation on the 97 and 98 model year only part, so I replied back asking again why they are for 97 and 98 model years only.

So if I'm reading this correctly, according to Pelican site, Pierburg must be OES, OEM and AS, but only for 97 to 98. Later years may have different manufacturer?

Response from Pelican is this.

"Both part # 996-106-011-56-OEM and 996-106-011-56-M100 are both genuine Porsche water pumps, these both fit 1997 -2004 Porsche Boxster and the Boxster S. If you would like to place an order for this please let me know.
Regards Kenny "

So I don't know why the have them listed for 97 and 98 model years. You did get a Genuine Porsche at a nice price.

Did yours come with a gasket? They don't have the listing as needing to buy as gasket, which would make it an even better deal.

Did you feel any hp from the butt dyno? Curious if there really is a hp increase.

Wanted to say thanks to everyone for helping, posting info and being awesome guys.

The more I dip into this car, the more I need to replace! That's ok though, Ive always done my own work so I know its getting done right. Question, for the motormount I was thinking of backing up the nuts with another set of locking nuts instead of locktite. The nuts that have the nylon inserts. Good ideal?