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NewArt 08-16-2014 01:40 PM

Uh, maybe it IS the O2 sensor...
 
Thought I'd swap over my O2 sensors to check if there was a problem with one. Pulled off first post cat. Hmm, think I found the problem. 😏http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1408225066.jpg

jb92563 08-16-2014 08:18 PM

wow looks like the shield was burned/melted right off.

What symptoms were you seeing? O2 codes? Rough running?

I think I need to pull mine and check that as well.

NewArt 08-17-2014 04:30 AM

Actually, it ran just fine. Had a CEL and the code was a p0430, which signals a bad cat ( or maybe a sensor that is toast). Also the Durametric readings for pre and post cat were both in roller coaster mode.

Jager 08-17-2014 08:39 AM

How many miles on this O2 sensor?

NewArt 08-17-2014 08:45 AM

Don't know really. The car has 85k miles on it but I've only had it for a year or so. The O2 on bank 1 is clean.

thstone 08-17-2014 12:57 PM

Congrat's! Its always nice to find the exact cause of the problem on the first try!

I usually employ the "replaced-345-parts-and-its-still-not-fixed" approach. :)

nicecar 08-17-2014 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by thstone (Post 414967)
Congrat's! Its always nice to find the exact cause of the problem on the first try!

I usually employ the "replaced-345-parts-and-its-still-not-fixed" approach. :)

Too funny. Sounds like someone I know!

Topless 08-18-2014 06:07 AM

Yep, sometimes they do get fouled. Now for the next big question: Why did that bank get so fouled with oil??

NewArt 08-18-2014 08:39 AM

Actually, it is not really fouled with oil. The outer shell is broken/corroded/missing and is coated with carbon deposits. The inner sensor is faking off as well. Could be the result of the massive air leak due to a broken oil filler tube and the resulting backfiring and other small explosions that I heard. All fixed now. We'll see...

Topless 08-18-2014 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by NewArt (Post 415072)
Actually, it is not really fouled with oil. The outer shell is broken/corroded/missing and is coated with carbon deposits. The inner sensor is faking off as well. Could be the result of the massive air leak due to a broken oil filler tube and the resulting backfiring and other small explosions that I heard. All fixed now. We'll see...

Those heavy carbon deposits look like excess burned oil in the exhaust to me... but I could be wrong.

BYprodriver 08-18-2014 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by NewArt (Post 414929)
Actually, it ran just fine. Had a CEL and the code was a p0430, which signals a bad cat ( or maybe a sensor that is toast). Also the Durametric readings for pre and post cat were both in roller coaster mode.

Is that a oem or Bosche O2 ?

BYprodriver 08-18-2014 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thstone (Post 414967)
Congrat's! Its always nice to find the exact cause of the problem on the first try!

I usually employ the "replaced-345-parts-and-its-still-not-fixed" approach. :)

Not to mention a guaranteed performance improvement for your money spent!

NewArt 08-20-2014 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Topless (Post 415074)
Those heavy carbon deposits look like excess burned oil in the exhaust to me... but I could be wrong.

Yes, you are probably right. I have replaced the sensor but the readings still indicate a cat problem. Marbe I'll try a smoke test on the exhaust to check for leaks. I changed the AOS in the spring and the MAF is fairly new as well. Hopefully it's not really the cat. Major $ !

Wilson01S 08-20-2014 09:10 AM

If you end up needing a cat or cats I happen to know a guy that has both cats from my donor engine ;)

NewArt 08-20-2014 02:07 PM

Hopefully I won't need them ( it ). All 4 cats ?


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Topless 08-20-2014 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NewArt (Post 415302)
Yes, you are probably right. I have replaced the sensor but the readings still indicate a cat problem. Marbe I'll try a smoke test on the exhaust to check for leaks. I changed the AOS in the spring and the MAF is fairly new as well. Hopefully it's not really the cat. Major $ !

Maybe pull and compare spark plugs on both banks. If one side is heavily carboned, you know there is oil in the combustion chamber.

NewArt 09-20-2014 06:01 PM

so I bought a used cat on eBay for 120 bucks. Install no sweat. Running for a week and no codes yet. Probably too early to tell (touch wood) but my SAI codes haven't come back either. Wouldn't that be lovely! :)

guesswecan777 09-21-2014 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NewArt (Post 418920)
so I bought a used cat on eBay for 120 bucks. Install no sweat. Running for a week and no codes yet. Probably too early to tell (touch wood) but my SAI codes haven't come back either. Wouldn't that be lovely! :)

Congrats:cheers:


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