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jheli85 12-11-2013 09:04 PM

Not a Lot of Bang For The Buck
 
I know Porsche is known for being more expensive, but $4,600 seems like a lot for 25WHP.

2003 Porsche 986 Boxster S with Fabspeed's Performance Package on Dyno - YouTube

Any thoughts?

particlewave 12-11-2013 09:10 PM

Yeah: get used to it ;)

A set of Litronic headlights can run 2k+...for headlights!!! :eek:
Gotta watch those indy mechanics and things like paint shops, too. Once they see that it is a Porsche they will try to jack up the prices on labor.

evomind 12-11-2013 09:15 PM

I think its awfully pricey and that's not even labor in there.
You will notice a difference though.

edc 12-12-2013 01:11 AM

Excluding labour you can get exhaust, manifolds, tb, intake, remap from circa £1,000 which is roughly USD$1,600 which gets you circa 25whp. That's what I did and most of my kit came off ebay.

JAAY 12-12-2013 03:36 AM

If you want sound than any eBay exhaust will do. Best bang for the buck is a set of 150 dollar eBay headers with no cats and set of good high flow cats with stock exhaust.

thstone 12-12-2013 12:08 PM

If you think that is expensive, check this out:

2013 991 Turbo 520hp $148,300
2013 991 Turbo S 560hp $181,100

That's $32,800 for 40hp! (plus an S badge)

Topless 12-12-2013 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jheli85 (Post 376200)
I know Porsche is known for being more expensive, but $4,600 seems like a lot for 25WHP.

2003 Porsche 986 Boxster S with Fabspeed's Performance Package on Dyno - YouTube

Any thoughts?


No interest. There are a lot of things I have done/would do to my car but this is not one of them.

evomind 12-12-2013 04:21 PM

Id like to add some power, some responsiveness, but 4600 bucks is more than a third of what I paid for the car.
Someone should remind these tuners that most of these cars aren't 70k anymore.

The French Dude 12-12-2013 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edc (Post 376221)
Excluding labour you can get exhaust, manifolds, tb, intake, remap from circa £1,000 which is roughly USD$1,600 which gets you circa 25whp. That's what I did and most of my kit came off ebay.

Seems nice !
Could you explain what you did and which parts you used ?

Thank you

san rensho 12-12-2013 05:22 PM

27 hp will barely register on the butt dyno. Why the obsession with increasing hp on Boxsters, where the cost per hp is so high? It will never beat anything ina drag race.

The Box is best in the corners. And even out of the box, the handling and brakes are so good that you really have to go to the track to to experience the Boxsters advantage, going fast around corners.

rp17 12-12-2013 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 376203)
Yeah: get used to it ;)

A set of Litronic headlights can run 2k+...for headlights!!! :eek:
Gotta watch those indy mechanics and things like paint shops, too. Once they see that it is a Porsche they will try to jack up the prices on labor.

+1 on this. You want HP, buy the newest Boxster. Seems like they give you just enough HP on the latest version, to edge by the competition. So a 7-10 year old boxster falls way short. Enjoy the car for what it is, fast in the corners like mentioned or open up your wallet. Intake and mufflers does nothing unless you change the trottle body. And that does little unless you flash the ecu. It just keeps going but that is a great mod.

edc 12-13-2013 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The French Dude (Post 376318)
Seems nice !
Could you explain what you did and which parts you used ?

Thank you

Summary here http://986forum.com/forums/performance-technical-chat/47555-tuned-modified-2000-boxster-s.html with a link to a more detailed thread in the first post.

I am doing the same again this time with a 550 Anniversary and the addition of replacement sports cats and perhaps a different silencer.

Aside from a bit more go the other benefit to me is a better sounding Boxster that sounds more like a sports car should.

Jake Raby 12-13-2013 03:26 AM

The sad part is most of these tunes reduce throttle response and torque as their tuners only look for peak HP gains, for advertisement.

We very seldom, if ever find any gains from any of this stuff on our engines, even the Stage I and most Stage II. In fact until we build one of our3.2 based 3.8L engines I don't even consider using any of these goods.

95% of what we build leaves here with stock intake, stock exhaust and a minimum of 40HP more output than stock, with even more torque, more throttle response with a broader power band.

Pretty much unless a car arrives with these "tuned" items, we don't use them. We don't need them and true development and application has proven this.

coreseller 12-13-2013 04:14 AM

The words "Porsche" and "Cheap" or "Reasonable" never seem to appear together very often. One of the options to have on a 993 are "Sport Seats" which have hardbacks, they command $5k to $10k a pair here, a well known vendor in Europe has some new OEM's for sale, only $20k:

Factory Sport Seats - Carnewal

If you want "Cheap" power, buy anything with a GM LS motor in it.

BYprodriver 12-13-2013 08:09 AM

[QUOTE=san rensho;376319]27 hp will barely register on the butt dyno. Why the obsession with increasing hp on Boxsters, where the cost per hp is so high? It will never beat anything ina drag race.

21 ft/lb is very obvious in a 2800 lb car!


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