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dixbu 09-12-2013 08:29 PM

996 turbo/ C4S wheel fitment
 
Thinking of putting these rims on my '01 boxster but not sure if they will fit.
Rims are from the 996 C4S wide body 18".
Tires are
Front 225/40 ZR 18
Rear 295/30 ZR 18

Thanks

mump 09-12-2013 11:37 PM

need the size/width of rim and offset to tell you...

dixbu 09-13-2013 12:11 AM

front 18x8 50mm
rear 18x11 45mm

BruceH 09-13-2013 02:23 PM

I really don't think the 11" rears will fit. I bought some 10" wheels with a 65 offset that were on a 911. I got 20mm spacers to bring them down to 45. With that, they clear the shock tower by less than an inch. The fronts will fit.

Johnny Danger 09-13-2013 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dixbu (Post 363032)
front 18x8 50mm
rear 18x11 45mm

Ah, another 11 inch wheel query ! Sorry, but no way, no how will they fit, let alone with a 295 tire.

BruceH 09-13-2013 02:39 PM

I was waiting for you to chime in JD:cheers:

trimer 09-13-2013 02:52 PM

Is there a thread that we can put up that just say biggest tire you can run on back is...

dixbu 09-13-2013 07:25 PM

So 11's are a no go? What tire set up should work?
The tires are worn i can still figure out fitments that may work.

Johnny Danger 09-14-2013 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dixbu (Post 363172)
So 11's are a no go? What tire set up should work?
The tires are worn i can still figure out fitments that may work.

Depending upon how aggressive you want your fitment to be, as well as what your suspension set-up is, here's a basic outline to follow:

Fronts:

8 inches wide = offsets ranging beginning with +40 to +35

8.5 inches wide = offsets ranging from +45 to +40 or so.

* tires 225 to 235 (some like to run 245 - I don't)

Rears:

9.5 inches wide = offsets ranging from +40 to +35

10 inches wide = offsets ranging from +45 to +40 or so.

* tires 265 to 285 (I prefer 275)

Again, these are based on a number of fitments that I have experiment with personally, and fitment between vehicles can vary based on suspension set-up, tire size and application of use.

LAP1DOUG 09-14-2013 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Danger (Post 363185)
Depending upon how aggressive you want your fitment to be, as well as what your suspension set-up is, here's a basic outline to follow:

Fronts:

8 inches wide = offsets ranging beginning with +40 to +35

8.5 inches wide = offsets ranging from +45 to +40 or so.

* tires 225 to 235 (some like to run 245 - I don't)

Rears:

9.5 inches wide = offsets ranging from +40 to +35

10 inches wide = offsets ranging from +45 to +40 or so.

* tires 265 to 285 (I prefer 275)

Again, these are based on a number of fitments that I have experiment with personally, and fitment between vehicles can vary based on suspension set-up, tire size and application of use.

Just as another data point:

A 255 with an 8.5" wheel having proper offset will fit on the front (barely). A 245 on a 9" wheel again with proper offset will also fit. I am not sure if the 255 on a 9" wheel would work though.

The front to rear stagger needs to be adjusted based on how much front camber you can run. Otherwise you will have too much understeer or oversteer. The OP's 225 / 295 combo even if it would fit, would probably result in gross understeer even with lots of front negative camber.

heliguy 09-14-2013 05:59 AM

Can't the moderator just put a header at the top of this forum that says "An 11 inch wheel will not fit on the rear of a Boxster!"

Johnny Danger 09-14-2013 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LAP1DOUG (Post 363190)
Just as another data point:

A 255 with an 8.5" wheel having proper offset will fit on the front (barely). A 245 on a 9" wheel again with proper offset will also fit. I am not sure if the 255 on a 9" wheel would work though.

The front to rear stagger needs to be adjusted based on how much front camber you can run. Otherwise you will have too much understeer or oversteer. The OP's 225 / 295 combo even if it would fit, would probably result in gross understeer even with lots of front negative camber.

Wow, who runs a 255 up front. AutoX ?

LAP1DOUG 09-14-2013 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Danger (Post 363193)
Wow, who runs a 255 up front. AutoX ?

Yes.

It works pretty well on track days too, but you have to balance it with the maximum rear tire possible, or it can bite you.

Trey T 09-14-2013 12:31 PM

That will stick out too much if you have a spacer on there.

Your limit is 996 10" (265mm or 285mm width tires) width wheel with a minimum with 23mm spacer. That's pushing it!

If you have 11" with 295mm width rear tires, you might need a spacer that's beyond 40mm spacer.

dixbu 09-14-2013 03:03 PM

Thanks all 986 forums members are the best!

Johnny Danger 09-14-2013 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trey T (Post 363233)
That will stick out too much if you have a spacer on there.

Your limit is 996 10" (265mm or 285mm width tires) width wheel with a minimum with 23mm spacer. That's pushing it!

If you have 11" with 295mm width rear tires, you might need a spacer that's beyond 40mm spacer.

There's no practical way to fit an 11 inch on the 986 boxster period ! Let alone with a 295 tire.

mump 09-15-2013 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Danger (Post 363185)
Rears:

9.5 inches wide = offsets ranging from +40 to +35

10 inches wide = offsets ranging from +45 to +40 or so.

* tires 265 to 285 (I prefer 275)

you can get a 18x10 +47 on the rear but no more.. you can't even get a finger between the rim and the stock shock.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...00626624_n.jpg

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Johnny Danger 09-15-2013 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mump (Post 363294)
you can get a 18x10 +47 on the rear but no more.. you can't even get a finger between the rim and the stock shock.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...00626624_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...12994757_n.jpg

BS... I run 19 x10 +31 on the rear with a 275 tire with plenty of inner clearance.

Trey T 09-15-2013 07:29 AM

It maybe not practical but It's easier to convince ppl when you provide them with solid technical description: that's what I did.

Have you tried a 10" width on your 986?
Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Danger (Post 363245)
There's no practical way to fit an 11 inch on the 986 boxster period ! Let alone with a 295 tire.


Johnny Danger 09-15-2013 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trey T (Post 363324)
It maybe not practical but It's easier to convince ppl when you provide them with solid technical description: that's what I did.

Have you tried a 10" width on your 986?

I been running a set of 19 x 10 +31 wheels with 275 tires for years. What's your point ?


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