Raced a 330I

[porscheguy]

I just raced a 2003 bmw 330I we went from 20 mph to 110mph and then let off. the whole race we were side by side. Does this sound right for a 1999 box tiptronic or should i have beat him? The whole race i just left it in drive i did not manual shift.

[MNBoxster]

Originally Posted by porscheguy

I just raced a 2003 bmw 330I we went from 20 mph to 110mph and then let off. the whole race we were side by side. Does this sound right for a 1999 box tiptronic or should i have beat him? The whole race i just left it in drive i did not manual shift.

Hi,

In a straight line... that's about what I would imagine. Shifting Manually might have given you a slight edge, although the Peak HP on a '99 comes at 6k RPM, so maybe not. But then again, there may be things he could have done to improve his run as well. The Boxster, in any form really, is not a racer despite what some may think...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

[markk]

He was holding back ;-)

I raced a e46 330i (218bhp or so) with my manual BoxsterS and it was close.

Mark.

[porscheguy]

Originally Posted by markk

He was holding back ;-)

I raced a e46 330i (218bhp or so) with my manual BoxsterS and it was close.

Mark.

he wasnt holding back because i talked to him after and he told me that it was WOT. and his car only has about 35,000 miles on it. I dont know but it was head to head so it could be that you just didnt shift right. if i was head to head you should have beat him because you have an S and its manual.

[Perfectlap]

He may be quicker in a straightline (not the real measure of a sports car) but over a hot lap he's not even in your class!


Here's my local Autocross clubs' classifications. this is one of the more competitive clubs where some events have the first 6 places in a class seperated by less than .4's over a 60 second course. That's tight.


Class B
Car HP to Weight Ratio

M3 (E46) 333/3415=0.098
v.
Boxter S (up to '04 include) 250/3145=0.079
Boxter '05 240/2850=0.084
997 325/3200=0.102
996 320/3200=0.100
911 Carrera Coupe'02 320/2965=0.107


Class C
Boxster (’02 and older) 217/2779=0.078
928 S4 320/3505=0.091
vs.
M5(E39) 394/4024=0.098
M3 Lightweight (E36) '95 240/2700=0.088
545i (E60)'04 325/3415=0.095
645Ci (E63), 645Conv (E64) '04,'05 325/3300=0.098


Class D
330i (E90) '06 255/3190=0.080
330i PP (Performance Pack) E46 235/3190=0.074

Class E
330Xi (E46) 225/3483=0.064
330Ci, (E46) 225/3285=0.068

[natecooper]

My boss has an 2002 Z3 3.0i and we race all the time (I have an 01 Boxster 2.7). He consistently beats the pants off of me in a strait line. Dending on the year of the 330 it's probably the same engine. Factor in that the 330 has more weight than the Z3, and the 99' has less HP than the 01' and that sounds about right.

However, when he borrows my car and comes back he's always pissed off that he didn't get a boxster because of how it handles.

[TriGem2k]

Originally Posted by natecooper

My boss has an 2002 Z3 3.0i and we race all the time (I have an 01 Boxster 2.7). He consistently beats the pants off of me in a strait line. Dending on the year of the 330 it's probably the same engine. Factor in that the 330 has more weight than the Z3, and the 99' has less HP than the 01' and that sounds about right.

However, when he borrows my car and comes back he's always pissed off that he didn't get a boxster because of how it handles.

Im suprised....Ive gone up against a Z4 3.0 and didnt have a problem with it. It was close to about 50mph then i started to pull...

[blinkwatt]

What type of transmissions are you guys using?

[natecooper]

We both have 5 speed manuals. His is 225HP, I believe, and mine is 217HP. Truth be told, "beats the pants off of me" is a bit of an exageration, but he does consistenty get about half a car lenth ahead of me when we go 0-70. I've driven both cars many times and his does have some very peppy low end torque that the 01' Boxster doesn't have. And although it is NOT an M series Z3 (which has a 3.2 liter 333HP tear your head off engine), I do wonder if it was some sort of 'special edition' with maybe an extra 15HP or something for a couple of reasons:

1. It has an M logo on the steering wheel and on the shifter.
2. It was the last production year for the Z3 and I wonder if they spiced it up a bit to keep them selling when people knew the Z4 was around the corner.
3. I've also driven a few 3.0i Z4's and they were not as fast off of a straitline as his 02' Z3.

Either way, they are both great cars.

[MNBoxster]

Hi,

No Offense, but when two Cars are That evenly matched, it often comes down to the Drivers. In '04 Shuey wasn't just driving the Fastest Car . Someone is getting just a little more from their machine. Your Car's HP peaks at 6k RPM, if you are shifting Early or Late, you're giving something up to him. Either that, or he has a little Tweak which he's just forgotten to mention ...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99