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BoxsterSteve 11-18-2012 10:15 AM

How much debris is too much?
 
I did a rather long roadtrip this summer, so I wonder if I just really coaxed this goo out of the motor by running it on a 9 hour drive one way. Car has 83,000 km; a little over 50,000 miles.
Udo had the IMSB changed last May, and this is the 2nd oil change since then. Indie dropped sump plate and cleaned it out at the time, so what you see is post-IMS swap material.
The LN magnetic drain plug had the slightest black film on it each time. Can't say if the previous filter had metallic debris at all.
What you see is fairly representative of what I found in my oil filter while doing the pre-hibernation oil change today, roughly 30 flakes this size.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1353265226.jpg

Nearly all ferrous, no big chunks, just minute flakes.
Should I be concerned with engine health here, or just monitor?

milliemax 11-18-2012 12:59 PM

if all of those flakes came from the same ball in a bearing,,,, I would be changing filters every 1K and inspecting. What did you find after the first oil change ?? Post IMS I hope the flakes stop.

san rensho 11-18-2012 01:11 PM

Nothing to worry about. A few flakes of ferrous metal is completely normal. And so is a film of "sludge" on the magnetic drain plug. Just pull the filter halfway tjrough your oil change interval to check for metal.

Kenny Boxster 11-18-2012 03:19 PM

Nothing to be concerned about, rest assured. Metal bits here and there are normal. This, however isn't:

http://www.volkswagenspares.com/User...isinfilter.jpg

milliemax 11-21-2012 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenny Boxster (Post 313196)
Nothing to be concerned about, rest assured. Metal bits here and there are normal. This, however isn't:

http://www.volkswagenspares.com/User...isinfilter.jpg

Was that "Steve's" first oil filter after the IMS change out ???

BoxsterSteve 11-21-2012 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milliemax (Post 313885)
Was that "Steve's" first oil filter after the IMS change out ???

Actually never got to check the first filter... it sat on the workbench in my garage for a week or so, then Mama threw it out 'cause she was sick if looking at it.

Kenny,
I've seen that pic before, I think it's in the 101 projects book, right?

Kenny Boxster 11-21-2012 09:18 PM

Yes indeed if I recall correctly. Steve, I just changed my oil for winter, and I had just about the same amount of debris on my filter (5k miles). I also run a magnetic drain plug, and it barely picked up anything. My box has 82k miles on her.

milliemax 11-22-2012 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoxsterSteve (Post 313890)
Actually never got to check the first filter... it sat on the workbench in my garage for a week or so, then Mama threw it out 'cause she was sick if looking at it.

Kenny,
I've seen that pic before, I think it's in the 101 projects book, right?

I know the feeling as my wife throws everything out also.


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