Never had a rotor phase issue.. Can't say that for transmission issues, flight control issues, hydraulic issues or engine flameouts. Nothing like having to beat on a flight control at 5,000' to get the damn engine to light off again :-)

that's ok, I would still rather go with Reid Vann, at least they picked out the engine and put it in, because if I bring in some engine it doesn't matter where I say it came from, if there's problems they're going to look at me and say "should have taken the engine we offered". I haven't met a mechanic yet that liked their customers turning down the parts they offered and buying it cheaper from somewhere else

that said.... it does seem like it'll be cheaper to just keep the boxster, buy another vehicle, and put some money away for either a new engine or S if it comes along. $7,000 could go a long way towards buying a S.

Reason I went with a base 986 in the first place was because I wasn't sure if this is what I wanted, I'd never had a convertible, much less a Porsche, and only 2 seats? But it was everything I thought it would be and more, completely exceeded my expectations :)

I'll just have it towed home and put in the garage and buy a beater in the meantime.... at least I will still be a porsche owner :o :ah:

I agree with that leverage from working local. What can break, will break.

I kind of like Bruce Wayne's idea, pick up a beater pick-up truck and used trailer. You can have someone drive the pick up while you sit in the Box on the trailer and zip around town with the top down. You get the best of both worlds!

On a serious note, hope things work out for ya.

No, I've half-assed it this long and look where it got me. From here on its all professionals for the Porsche, tow trucks and Reid Vann. Because if something bad happens again, at least I won't look back and say "I should have called XYZ!"

Are you a member of your local PCA region? I'd be willing to bet that if you are active there is someone thats able and has a lift to do the swap with you helping. We do it all of the time in my shop. You buy the beer and lunch/dinner. It will take 2-3 guys about 10 hours to do the swap. You then leave the shop owner with a bunch of extra beer and perhaps a nice donation of a Porsche specialty tool and everyone is happy. Get the engine from Jake with the IMS, water pump/tstat, and RMS upgraded. This is not brain surgery, thses cars were designed with manufacturing and assembly in mind, the magic is inside the engines where Jake plays.

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My engine sold today.

Given that your mobile phone bill will show calls to the mechanic over several days (corroborating your story), I don't understand why you're not calling your lawyer.

^^^Squozen has a good point there. You may want to get your hands on that. Even if you don't have a record of the conversation, you do have a record of the calls leading up to the car's failure.

This was also someone at the guy's wedding. He may not want to press the matter further if they're old friends

I understand that, but someone you know personally who ends up costing you several thousand dollars in damaged car should do what's right to make good on it instead of dodging the responsibility, especially if that person was someone worthy of being in your wedding.

I am a member, I contacted the local chapter president about a week ago, haven't heard back

and.... what, exactly? "Your Honor, clearly the cellphone records show I called him, so we can just assume I was asking him about the engine, so obviously he owes me $7,000 for a new engine because he gave me bad advice."

sorry that was snippy, but i'm not paying a lawyer a few grand just to lose in court too

you would think.... :rolleyes:

phone calls are not proof of what the conversation was about. I'm sure I could call an attorney tomorrow and they'd say "Oh yes Sir you have a TERRIFIC case here! Guaranteed winner it is! Here just give me a $500 retainer and we'll get started... ok thank you for that, alright now I need another $200 for court fees or some nonsense.... alright that's good.... Oh they asked for a continuance, new court date, I'm gonna need another $500 if you want to continue this... what, you don't want to? But you've already paid $XXX, don't stop now! You're sooooo close to winning! (5 grand later) Oh shucks we lost, wanna appeal? That's gonna cost 10 grand, but you have a great case, I'm sure you'll win!"

Yeah.... no. I was landlord, rented out houses, spent my fair share of time chasing down renters, paying lawyers.... it's not as much fun as it sounds. Lawyers lie. A lot.

Actually, if I sued, his insurance might just settle, I'd get.... probably not 100%, but something worthy of my time.

i'm considering it. It's been a week. I'm still hoping he'll come to his senses and realize he's responsible for this...

Because I was just thinking about it today: he works on coolant system and within 50 miles engine blows from coolant system issues. And he doesn't think he's responsible at all. Really?

____here's what happened________
Me: Hi Mechanic please work on coolant system, there is a flashing light and it's scary :confused:
Mechanic: *tinkers* ok coolant good to go!
Me: (25 miles later) Um.... light's still on, it's getting hotter :confused:
Mechanic: Keep driving
Me: (5 miles later) Uhhhhhhh.... ok now it's at max :confused::confused:
Mechanic: Keep driving
Me: (20 miles later) Engine's blown :barf:
Mechanic: WHY DID YOU KEEP DRIVING?!?
Me: :eek:

:ah:

Before you initiate your lawsuit, may I suggest that you review your posts on this board? Post #15 in the thread below may give the defense attorney a lot to play with:

http://986forum.com/forums/boxster-racing-forum/36092-killed-modified-evo-x.html

It's not your only racing post.....just sayin.......................

"Before you initiate your lawsuit, may I suggest that you review your posts on this board? Post #15 in the thread below may give the defense attorney a lot to play with:

http://986forum.com/forums/boxster-racing-forum/36092-killed-modified-evo-x.html

It's not your only racing post.....just sayin....................... "

come on; if you haven't figured out how this guy rolls yet, it is obviously not his fault he was racing. he should sue the owner of the evo x for making him race and potentially endangering his life. we're not responsible for our own actions, are we?

Racing? What racing? I never exceeded the posted speed limit

First, never exceeded posted speed limit. Read my posts.


Second, there is no legal excuse for negligence. Even when people sign waivers the companies can still be held liable for gross neligence. Waivers are not a license to kill people or due harm, and I didn't even sign a waiver.

You can always try small claims court. Very low costs and no attorney required. Just filing might jolt your mechanic to make some amends.

OK. Disregard my post if you didn't exceed the speed limit in keeping up with those cars you listed. If that's the case, my Prius could keep up with the cars you listed...... at the legal speed limit.

Dude..............you screwed up by not stopping when the car heated up and the engine light came on! It's as much your fault! Man up and stop whining!

I apologize to the board for being blunt but it is my non-sugar coated opinion.

This would be the route I would probably take if the mechanic doesn't make amends

I hate court, but at some point it's required. I once sued a chinese buffet because they changed the prices while we were eating. When I asked why, they said they had "ran out of (the correct) number for the sign" so the put up a post-it note with the higher price. When I said I shouldn't have to pay the higher price they called the police. Police looked at post-it note and said I had to pay whatever they said or I would be arrested. I paid and left while the police stayed and ate

Judge asked why and they said customers "feel the love" on Sunday's so they just want to pay more. They lost. All I got was the price difference (few bucks) and ~$80 in court fees. They lost time: employee, manager and owner sat in court for 6 hrs over a few dollars

I did stop, and called the mechanic that had just looked at the car 20 miles earlier. He said the gauge must be wrong, and seeing how he just looked at the coolant system the day before I believed him, why wouldn't I? He had just inspected the coolant system.

When it continued to overheat I stopped again and called and again he said gauges must not be accurate but I could drive it in later to have it checked out again. Car never made it there.


Didnt you read any of the posts? You might want to read the posts before commenting, all of this has been covered

Still, the cars were built and intended to be driven hard. There are racers here who spend most of their time at red line with heavy braking, and you don't see their boxsters blowing up.

As to where racing is concerned, Boxsters are not straight line cars and we all know that. Unless you're Ghostrider and own a Spyder, or have some aftermarket tuning, your stock Boxster (even a stock S) is going to lose to most of the machines out there. Unless you're on a mountain pass delivering Tofu, you're most probably going to lose on the straights...

... and personally, I think drag racing is the stupidest thing anyways. Any monkey can shift, and there's no driver skill behind driving in a straight line. If you can HT and double clutch, that says magnitudes more than being able to "pull off a quarter mile under 11 seconds"

You should've pulled over and left it to cool down, regardless of what anybody says. That's like looking down the barrel of a gun, even when a certified shooting instructor tells you to do so. You just... don't do it.

And why would you ever go to court over a few dollars? Sense of self-righteousness?

I agree 100% with your post but...................a monkey CAN miss a shift and blow up his engine! He can't sue the EVO driver because the judge wont allow monkeys in his court room.

In this case......a hatred of ricers? Just kidding!!!!!

..... what's with the sudden trolling?:troll:

You mean like this: "I once sued a chinese buffet because they changed the prices while we were eating."

It's getting to the point that I can't post anything here without being attacked, even just repair questions

Guess I'll post more on rennlist instead, think I have an old account over there too, hopefully moderators there are more pro-active against trolling? It's just a surprise to see it on a Porsche forum, I'd expect it from a Civic or Camaro forum, but Porsche? You'd think it would attract a more mature crowd but maybe trolls are everywhere

Apologies if what I'm doing is trolling. I'm merely sharing what I think.

I don't believe that Boxsters should explode, despite how hard you drive it (save for negligence... or stupidity)
Personally, I would've let my car cool regardless of what anybody said.
And lastly, I was questioning why you would go to court over a few dollars.

And as a side interjection, I dislike drag racing... which is why I tend to not like American cars so much. Straight line racing is boring.

Much love to you, 986_Inquiry, I am saddened by the loss of your engine, and meant no offense.
But I also personally think you're being very prejudice towards Civic, Camaro, and other car owners. I've noticed it almost as a trend around here, which I guess can't be helped since it is a Porsche forum after all. Maybe you can attribute it off to me still being young, but I have a certain respects for all cars, regardless of make and model. I may not ever buy them or like driving them, but I see their draw and their demo graph.

but why?
 

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Wow.

Dude, you'll get killed over there faster then your engine blew up. Now, go clean your room.

Lets tone it down boys. Disagree but no insults, OK?

Who is this BruceLee guy?? :o

Long time no hear from, all good with you?

:cheers:

Going back to your original post...you had an overheating engine and lots of warnings and didn't immediately cure the problem. You let a flashing light go for the "last few months". You consistently used only your mechanic when your engine was giving you repeated signs of distress and his approach wasn't solving the problem? When the engine's sensors were contradicting the mechanic, did you ever think that the mechanic just might not be the most experienced Porsche mechanic and might not be giving you the right advice? Or that your description of the symptoms was perhaps the reason why he gave you the advice?

I don't ever like to see an engine lost as that just makes fewer of them around for those that need one. But I think your approach to this scenario is as much the cause of the end result as anything anyone else did. And I'm sorry the lesson is going to cost you so much.

I feel for you, I lost my first aluminum-engined sports car's engine the same way (Alfa). But I never blamed anyone else. Truth be told I was trying to drive 50 miles in August to meet my girlfriend at the time and just kept pouring water into the expansion tank when I should have gotten the head gasket replaced. I was wrong and learned my lesson the hard way.

"I hate court, but at some point it's required. I once sued a chinese buffet because they changed the prices while we were eating. When I asked why, they said they had "ran out of (the correct) number for the sign" so the put up a post-it note with the higher price. When I said I shouldn't have to pay the higher price they called the police. Police looked at post-it note and said I had to pay whatever they said or I would be arrested. I paid and left while the police stayed and ate

Judge asked why and they said customers "feel the love" on Sunday's so they just want to pay more. They lost. All I got was the price difference (few bucks) and ~$80 in court fees. They lost time: employee, manager and owner sat in court for 6 hrs over a few dollars"

wow, i think i just threw up a little bit. now i gotta find somebody to sue for my drycleaning bill.

but did you get any for your effort ?

I am great thanks. I read a lot of posts but don't comment as much.

How are you doing?

:)