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442nd986s 09-06-2011 08:37 AM

To Brake or Not to Brake......that is the Question
 
So, I've started to notice a small 1/8" shake on my steering wheel ONLY WHEN I brake. It's more noticeable at +30 MPH. All new tires and balance about 5 months ago.
The wired thing about it is that it mostly happends in the mornings and after work (10 hr shift). This makes me to think it's a warped rotor (since it tends to go away after heating up/ 20 mins of use).
The rotors and pads seem to be nice and thick, but I don't know what the minimum thinkness is allowed. Any advise would be appreciated.
3rd owner, no service records, '01 986S with 90k miles.

ppbon 09-06-2011 08:55 AM

If the rotor was warped ...
 
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Originally Posted by 442nd986s
So, I've started to notice a small 1/8" shake on my steering wheel ONLY WHEN I brake. It's more noticeable at +30 MPH. All new tires and balance about 5 months ago.
The wired thing about it is that it mostly happends in the mornings and after work (10 hr shift). This makes me to think it's a warped rotor (since it tends to go away after heating up/ 20 mins of use).
The rotors and pads seem to be nice and thick, but I don't know what the minimum thinkness is allowed. Any advise would be appreciated.
3rd owner, no service records, '01 986S with 90k miles.

... it wouldn't un-warp itself when hot.
It's practically impossible to warp a Porsche rotor. I've never seen one.
These rotors are internally vented and are extremely solid structurally.
What people generally refer to as a warped rotor are pad deposits on the rotor's surface.
If you use pads that are not the correct match to the rotor and its use, or if you apply the brakes to a complete stop and hold them when the rotors are overly hot such as after a track session, a small amount of pad material will be transferred over to the rotor.
When you brake, every time that patch passes under your pads it offers a bit more grab and therefore you get the steering shimmy.
The cure is to eliminate this transfer. You can do so by repeatedly breaking hard (even with ABS kicking in) from say 75 mph until the car slows down to 20 mph. Let the rotors cool down a mile or two and repeat.

To know if your rotors are worn to the point that they need replacing, if the wear lip on the edge of the rotor is 1 mm or more they need to be replaced.

Happy Boxstering,
Pedro

jaykay 09-06-2011 09:20 AM

Are there problems with setting the hand brake in a Boxster after coming off the track?

Gilles 09-06-2011 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jaykay
Are there problems with setting the hand brake in a Boxster after coming off the track?

... you should NEVER use the hand brake when the brakes are hot...

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jaykay 09-06-2011 11:40 AM

Yes I realize but the Boxster brake appears to be some sort of crazy remote drum system no where near the rotors......

944boy 09-06-2011 12:11 PM

It's actually a vestigial drum. The hand brake applies to the inside of the rear rotors. So if you apply it after a track session you are applying cold pads against a hot rotor.

Good idea to leave it in gear and bring wheel chocks or a block of wood to a track day.

:cheers:

jaykay 09-06-2011 12:35 PM

Ahhhh that what I was afraid of..... Thanks

....and it doesn't look like it can take hand brake turns!

thstone 09-06-2011 03:41 PM

What Pedro said. Good advice.

And never touch the hand brake on a track day when the brakes are hot. When stopped, just leave it in gear and unless the paddock is on the side of a hill, you should be fine.


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