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usna_porsche 11-09-2010 09:29 PM

Eliminated the mufflers on the boxster S
 
Hey guys, I recently purchased my first red porsche boxster S 3 days ago. My first porsche i've owned...but not first to owning a german vehicle. Previously owned a cl55 amg, but sold it because it wasn't agile enough for me.

At first I was going to do the pedro exhaust but the exhaust shop told me it was going to be too much work. They lifted up the car and upon that I realized the boxster already had an aftermarket exhaust. The sound was not doing the beautiful porsche any justice so I decided to eliminate the mufflers. They did a beautiful job with really nice clean bends. The owner was even nice enough to throw in 2 shiny chrome tips.

During the wait me and my brother decided to walk to get some food, I was a bit nervous at first because I was afraid it was going to be too obnoxiously loud... As I was walking back I watched a youtube video of a boxster...I was praying it was not going to sound like that. Once I got there they were putting back on my tires because I was changing the brakes as well...Lowered it...I was allowed to start it...and behold the most beautiful, clean, and high reving engine i've ever heard. It sounded like the gt3 N/A motors. Very quiet during the normal Idles but when I step on it especially coming out of a tunnel it sounds like an F1 ferrari. I kid you not, i'm extremely happy with results. Does not have the droning and annoying sound but a very pitchy REV!!!! Now in the process of getting a gt2 front bumper, Techart sides, and diffuser from precision porsche...Anyone buy from them before?

harryrcb 11-10-2010 04:07 AM

So how about a sound clip from your new Boxster? Would love to hear it.

kabel 11-10-2010 04:31 AM

Agreed, a boxster with no muffler is really sweet sounding and not nearly as harsh as one might expect. Gurgles at idle and has that really nice flat 6 roar when you get on it. :cheers:

Brucelee 11-10-2010 05:03 AM

I am puzzled. Are you saying that you are running straight pipes, no mufflers, no cats?

jmatta 11-10-2010 05:50 AM

I agree; I think that's what he's saying (straight pipes). I had a friend that was building a spec Boxster 2.5 and left the exhaust straight...the car was extremely loud at the track...can't imagine it on the street. He eventually fitted a muffler, since it was causing db issues wherever he took it.

JTP 11-10-2010 06:56 AM

This guy is in San Jose, CA. Don't you get shot there for running no cats and no muffler?

Brucelee 11-10-2010 07:02 AM

If it is SP, then, no he cannot get the car past emissions. Clearly, that would be a no-no in CA.

I smell potential BS here.

Perhaps.

:)

jwade 11-10-2010 07:11 AM

I am running completely catless with stuff in my sig below, but have oem PSE muffler with butterfly valves in the open position.

Car sounds amazing and when you hammer the throttle and get it in the 5000+rpm range!

A friend of mine heard me coming down the hill towards my neighborhood the other day and made the comment to me that it sounded like a race car... He owns an '89 911 coupe and is a porscheophile to the hilt.

usna_porsche 11-10-2010 09:51 AM

I only took off the mufflers, as for the sound I will get on that asap, weather here in CA is not as sunny and beautiful as it use to be!

tawheed 11-10-2010 04:02 PM

Would love to hear what this sounds like.. Maybe I'll have them take the mufflers out of my Borla.

Pat 11-10-2010 04:42 PM

It sounds like an F1 Ferrari, huh? :rolleyes:
Glad you're happy with it, though. :cheers:

harryrcb 11-10-2010 05:38 PM

I almost forgot, when I ran with Chin Motorsport in August, a friend of mine showed up with his 03 Boxster S with straight pipes. Is it loud? Well, yah!! if you want I have a utube vid following him for the warm up and first lap. I could only hear his exhaust, I have headers and no cats with a loud borla on mine, but his exhaust definately occupied my ears. lol Here is the link if you want to hear straight pipes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSaz17vWKTk :D

CVstarBoxster 11-10-2010 06:01 PM

What?
 
can someone please explain how this modificaition works? How much would it cost?

harryrcb 11-11-2010 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CVstarBoxster
can someone please explain how this modificaition works? How much would it cost?

you can make it as cheap as you want or if you have the money buy the "brand" name products available, the cheap way - get on Ebay and purchase a set of headers for you car around 110 with shipping, go to your local muffler shop and have them duplicate your mid pipes (without the cats) and then fabricate the pipes to replace muffler to come out at the same location. I have a local shope bend up pipes, without the end plate for 50 so if you want them to weld those on they might charge you around a 100 and maybe another 100 for the muffler replacement. check with your local shops. the key is chop around.

Overdrive 11-12-2010 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by harryrcb
I almost forgot, when I ran with Chin Motorsport in August, a friend of mine showed up with his 03 Boxster S with straight pipes. Is it loud? Well, yah!! if you want I have a utube vid following him for the warm up and first lap. I could only hear his exhaust, I have headers and no cats with a loud borla on mine, but his exhaust definately occupied my ears. lol Here is the link if you want to hear straight pipes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSaz17vWKTk :D

Dude, you weren't kidding! Sounds great, but wow, drowns your car out big time.

Mark_T 11-12-2010 06:06 AM

Great video Harry. I'm envious - the closest I'll ever get to driving Sebring is Forza 3

JTP 11-12-2010 06:13 AM

I don't think the OP has straight pipes all the way like the guy in that video, he says he kept the cats, just eliminated the muffler. I'm sure it's still very loud, but if he has all four cats they will reduce the sound somewhat.
Usna, any progress on that sound clip?

wmtee 01-15-2011 02:45 AM

muffler delete
 
I did this mod last week and I thought I would give the results. I had the local muffler shop remove my stock muffler and make the new pipes. He used 2.25 dia. pipe. My cost was 160.00 total. I left the shop and it was a bit loud. Also there was an irritating drone from about 2K to 3.5K. I was expecting this but had never experienced it. I ordered some baffles from the net and installed them. They were cheap, about 15.00 shipped, they bolt in. They were 2" x 8" and worked nicely. I had to get the muffler shop to weld a spacer on the end for a nice tight fit, $5.00. The baffles seemed to eliminate some of the drone. I also ordered some heat proof fiberglass wrap from the net, 15.00 shipped, but did not like the result. I am presently using just the plain baffle, no wrap. I had it out last night and it is coming along. I might try using a small amount of wrap just to see about the results. I do think the baffles will allow me to get it inspected for the street. My main reason for the mod was to loose the weight more than make it louder. I haven't weighed the muffler yet but I would think I lost about 30 lbs. I might get chrome tips, they are on the net for $25.00, but I haven't finished tinkering with the setup yet. Total cost about $200.00. If anyone wants any pics I will try to accomodate, just send me your email address. Bill, Pgh, Pa. 99 Box.

tawheed 01-15-2011 10:15 AM

Forget pics, post a video! :)

BYprodriver 01-15-2011 12:54 PM

:dance: :chicken:

Johnny Danger 01-15-2011 01:41 PM

Its astonishing to see how some members take a "bubblegum and chicken wire" approach
to modifying (or should I say destroying) their exhaust . In view of the fact that Porsche spent considerable time designing their system, by the same token it requires a methodical approach to changing or modifying it . The irony in most of these cases is, that not only has power probably been lost, but engine reliability has likely been compromised as well.

wmtee 01-16-2011 01:49 AM

With all due respect I think you missed the point of my post. I was trying to lose as much weight as possible and I think that was accomplished. Since the first post I weighed in the exhaust components and they weighed 38 lbs. The new piping can't be anymore than 5/6 lbs. I will gladly take the 32 lb difference and see how the car performs. My goal for this season is to drop 150 lbs. for track purposes and I think I will be there. Muffler delete, spare tire removal, seat switch, battery switch, coilover install, sway bar switch and engine cover pad and carpet (14 lbs) should do it. As far as your "chicken wire comment" I guess I should have spent $2000 on a custom exhaust in order to get a heavier system with questionable performance. We all have different goals with our cars, my research has pointed me towards lightening the car as much as possible and that is the path I have chosen. It would be easy to follow with a few more comments, but I will take the high road with the hopes of meeting up with you at a track somewhere and getting an opprotunity to see whose car performs better. Bill, Pgh, Pa.

Johnny Danger 01-16-2011 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by wmtee
With all due respect I think you missed the point of my post. I was trying to lose as much weight as possible and I think that was accomplished. Since the first post I weighed in the exhaust components and they weighed 38 lbs. The new piping can't be anymore than 5/6 lbs. I will gladly take the 32 lb difference and see how the car performs. My goal for this season is to drop 150 lbs. for track purposes and I think I will be there. Muffler delete, spare tire removal, seat switch, battery switch, coilover install, sway bar switch and engine cover pad and carpet (14 lbs) should do it. As far as your "chicken wire comment" I guess I should have spent $2000 on a custom exhaust in order to get a heavier system with questionable performance. We all have different goals with our cars, my research has pointed me towards lightening the car as much as possible and that is the path I have chosen. It would be easy to follow with a few more comments, but I will take the high road with the hopes of meeting up with you at a track somewhere and getting an opprotunity to see whose car performs better. Bill, Pgh, Pa.

With all due respect right back at you, please go back and re-read your post . At no time did you explain that the premise of your "modification" was to reduce weight purely for the purpose of tracking your vehicle. Rather, it reads like someone who has set out aimlessly to adulterate their vehicle with no real goal or objective in mind . As far as meeting up at the track and comparing vehicles is concerned, I suggest that you bring plenty of bubblegum for yourself ! Good luck with your project.

Brucelee 01-16-2011 05:59 AM

No need to get testy here.

:)

wmtee 01-16-2011 06:36 AM

After noticing where you are from I guess I should have cut you some slack, obviously you a physically ill over realizing that your beloved Patriots will have to
beat the Steelers next week in order to make the big show. Good luck with that. Bill, Pgh. Pa.

Brucelee 01-16-2011 06:58 AM

The Cardinal rule here at the forum is that we do NOT allow any negative posts about the Patriots.

I am sorry but as owner and moderator. that is grounds for termination.

A word to the wise ....

Yes, I do get to make the rules! :D

JTP 01-16-2011 07:09 AM

It has been observed by many experts that the stock exhaust system yields the best performance overall. Very few people have considered shedding weight by the driver going on a diet.

Johnny Danger 01-16-2011 07:36 AM

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After noticing where you are from I guess I should have cut you some slack, obviously you a physically ill over realizing that your beloved Patriots will have to
beat the Steelers next week in order to make the big show. Good luck with that. Bill, Pgh. Pa.


Actually, growing up I was a big Steelers fan. Especially, the 1970-71 team ( Bradshaw, Harris, Greene, Stallworth, Ham, Blount, Swan ect...). However, nowadays my favorite spectator sport is Lingerie Football.

harryrcb 01-16-2011 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Danger
Actually, growing up I was a big Steelers fan. Especially, the 1970-71 team ( Bradshaw, Harris, Greene, Stallworth, Ham, Blount, Swan ect...). However, nowadays my favorite spectator sport is Lingerie Football.

I'm with you on that one. lol ( the last part )(as if that need explaining)


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