The best performance modification that I have made to my Boxster-S to date!
I was researching the web and read the write up on Pedro’s garage about his Techno Torque2. I recall another article that I read earlier this year in one of the European Automobile magazines about the Cayman-S with IPD plenum and sport exhaust upgrade. So after Googling a bit more I found several IPD plenum kits for the 911’s, Boxster (3.4L), and Caymans but not for Boxster 3.2L. So I found the phone number for Mike at IPD, he is the designer/developer and had a good conversation about his 3.2L solution. He eMailed me back with his new 3.2L setup that he recently developed for a customer in England for his 2001 Boxster-S.
This setup includes an upgraded throttle body from 75mm to 80mm and a 3.4L Cayman-S IPD plenum with huge silicon hoses to replace the restricted factory intake hose. I believe it is all about the science of air flow, the bigger throttle body and the large silicon hoses get more air in and then through a larger plenum with Mike’s patented design to get the air flow distributed evenly and quicker to each bank. The result is lots of torque, and you can feel it more than any other modification that you may have made to your car (of course except for putting turbo or super charger kit). Here are my existing modifications before IPD upgrade:
I have some great pictures for you to see the difference between standard equipment and the IPD setup for 3.2L. If you are interested let me know and I hook you up with Mike at IPD. I am not sure if he has the 3.2L kit distributed to his dealer network yet. There are several distributors that sell IPD gear. You can contact me at kias@tampabay.rr.com. |
Great info. How much did the kit cost? How long did it take to install?
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Very interesting write-up. Seems providing more air could be a good thing, as long as the ECU knows what to do with it and you have an exhaust that lets the air flow through the system.
Any experts out there that wish to comment? Has Jake Raby tried the larger plenum on his engines? |
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I am certainly no expert. Just an old hot-rodder who has tuned a lot of cars and bikes. In my experience tuning an intake is a balance between air volume, air velocity, and intake resonant frequency. If you get these things right you are rewarded with faster lap times. Also you need to consider your goals. A 1/4 mile car may want to maximize hp near redline to improve top speed through the trap. A road race car may choose to maximize a wide torque curve for better corner exit speed. These two intakes would probably look very different. Bigger isn't always better depending on your end goals. The IPD plenum and the Pedro Techno-torque are interesting because they appear to improve intake velocity. Any time you can reduce or eliminate flat surfaces or right angles tends to improve velocity. The proof is found in measurable results. Improved dyno curves are good, faster lap times are better. Would I use one on my car ? Nope. I compete in a spec class which requires stock intakes. But I do find these designs interesting. |
The stock ECU will adjust for the changes within the first 50 miles or so. No need to remap the ECU for this modification.
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If you guys interested, just eMail: sales@roadsportsupply.com
He has 2.7L and 3.2L kits for Boxster. |
Strange how the exact same post (verbatim) appears on several websites on the same day..........
Under different names, but same post with the same pictures..............all promoting the same product...................and suggesting you contact the same email address for more info…………..and yet forgets to mention this plenum costs $900…………. |
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Good eye JFP :cheers: |
Other boards have already deleted the thread for obvious reasons.............
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I didn't take it as spam, just a member sharing an update that he found interesting...and it is. I'm a fairly good track driver (and instructor), but I don't have great knowledge of how to improve upon the application Porsche has given us...I rely upon the "techies" that post on this board; JFP being one of them.
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thats interesting I always looked at an engine like a breathing person. The more Air you can get the better. (IE for runners the better their body can get the air to the blood stream etc the better) I didnt know there was more to it than just volume available to the engine.
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First, let me be direct about this plenum: I have no personal experience with it. The concept of creating a smoother flow path often has merit; but not always. That said, before I would even remotely consider popping nearly a grand for it, I would need to see some unbiased performance data.
Intake or cylinder head “improvements” are typically developed on a flow bench, which reproduces the flow under vacuum conditions that occur in an engine. A flow bench can accurately reproduce and quantify the slightest increase in flow. These are the devices used to develop the concept of canting the intake valves slightly (literally a couple of degrees off axis) on race engines to improve cylinder filling and flow. Flow benches can be used to detect the changes brought on by just altering the finish on and an intake’s interior; they are that sensitive. http://www.swri.org/3pubs/brochure/d...benc/flow1.gif http://www.swri.org/3pubs/brochure/d...benc/flow2.gif Once optimized on a flow bench, the plenum should be subjected to extensive dyno pulls. Anyone that has been seriously involved in the development of racing components will tell you that improving flow does not always translate into more usable power; in fact, sometimes really high flowing intakes do not make more power, or at least not in a usable RPM range. And sometimes what seemed like a good idea actually makes things worse………. Once the developer has “paid their dues” and come up with a proven concept, the next step would be to get some units into the hands of what marketer’s call “early adopters”, those that are willing to take a chance on a new technology, but are independent of the product’s developer(s) and have some level of credibility in the community. These early adopters then beat the Hell out of the component to either prove or disprove its relative merit. So far, all I have seen for this component are shaky and undocumented tests done by anonymous individuals of unknown relationship to the developer posted on the net. That really does not “cut the mustard” on proving the component does anything positive……………….. |
This was a plenum that was manufactured in Spain. It was called the "Techno Toro". Unfortunately, early dyno testing proved it to be very restrictive. :)
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It is made in the USA (California) and has a patent pending on it with stamp "Made in USA" on the die cast. The diameter of this plenum is 0.5" larger than stock plenum on each side. Go to utube and there are several dynos on the Porsches with this pelnum. You can even see how big this plenum is compare to stock. Pedro's Torque2 has identical design inside except with plastic glued to the stock pelnum. There is even patent pending on the design submitted by the IPD which is U.S. company.
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I thought Pedro's was glued and screwed?
Wouldn't it only make sense to increase the diameter of the plenum if the intakes,throttle body and air filter system were increased as well? |
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On this test of a Cayman S published in European Car, they measured: Baseline Peak wheel-horsepower: 260 @ 6200 rpm Peak wheel torque: 223 lb-ft @ 4400 rpm Maximum power gain: 13 whp @ 5900 rpm Maximum torque gain: 13 lb-ft @ 5900 rpm http://www.europeancarweb.com/features/epcp_0808_porsche_cayman_s_proven_power_adders/index.html Can one feel this ~5% peak gain "seat of the pants"? Very likely. Is this going to produce dramatic real world performance improvements for a street car to justify the cost? Doubtful, but let's see some objective tests. |
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Why does it vary so much from what they claim?! http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/boxster-cayman/83635-new-ipd-cayman-s-plenum-rss.html They also don't list the variables;gas,,if the car's ECU was reset,other mods and such.(on the 6speedonline) :confused: |
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