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RavenFan_94 03-13-2005 08:27 PM

What other performance cars do you own?
 
After dabbling the last few years in the world of Vipers, I have finally gone back to my first 'love' and sports car ~ you guessed it ~ the Boxster. My S should be here in a couple of days.

I have reasonable expectations for the car and will never expect it to compete with my 500hp SRT. I have learned from reading this board, that the 986 does not take well to mods.

My question, is what other performance cars do you own and are there any mods that I can do, in an effort to bridge the delta between the two cars? Again, expectations are reasonable. I'll save you some typing, as I have not enjoyed the looks of the 996/7.

Thanks in advance.

Lux 03-13-2005 09:20 PM

Bridge the gap between the 2 cars??? You're joking right? :D

Nothing short of putting in a motor from the 911 Turbo would even begin to bridge the gap. I'm being serious. A good friend of mine use to own the 1st gen Viper (a lot less power than the SRT-10). I've driven it quite a few times and there's nothing that will make the Box S feel the same as far as accelaration is concerned. The Viper has so much torque that it feels like taking off in a jet.

Handling, braking and driving feel is where the Box shines. I don't know about the SRT but the 1st gen Vipers handled like ****************, had no ABS, and was generally a rough car. I love Vipers but it's just too much for street use. So in my mind, the 2 cars are very different. Enjoy them for what they are. :cheers:

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Morelli 03-13-2005 10:08 PM

Not a car, but I own a 2004 Suzuki GSX-R 600...and if I want acceleration kicks, I get it from there.

Brucelee 03-14-2005 05:37 AM

Yes, since most competent motorcycles run in the 10s and 11s, that is the way to go really really fast in a short time frame.

Love my Buell for that purpose.

I just sold a ZR-1 that was very quick indeed. 185 MPH plus.

Modded to 400 plus HP.

Nice! :cheers:

Adam 03-14-2005 06:41 AM

You want to bridge the pefermance between the viper and the bosx S? there are two ways to do this. One is to drop in the 3.8L 350hp engine from the 987 S or if you want to retain the stock engine this will give you max gains. Not for the faint of heart. 390 hp on stock internals or 450hp if you want to go all the way.
http://www.t-t-p.de/english/986.php

Subanez 03-14-2005 08:22 AM

I believe you meant the 3.8 L from the new Carrera S (997 S) not the 987 S.

Just clarifying! :) Not sure the 3.8 would fit in there, though I've seen a couple of 3.6 liter conversions in the boxster.

Good luck!

Automon 03-14-2005 08:36 AM

One word HAYABUSA!!! I would get rid of the Porsche before that bike.

ntmatter 03-14-2005 08:49 AM

I sold my Viper GTS and bought a 01 Boxster last weekend, and I have a Kawasaki 636 sport bike. The Viper was built, around 500 HP and 650 torque at the wheels. You're never going to bridge that much grunt to a 220 HP Boxster, but almost nothing will, really. The Boxster isn't, and never will be, a muscle car.

Adam 03-14-2005 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subanez
I believe you meant the 3.8 L from the new Carrera S (997 S) not the 987 S.

Just clarifying! :) Not sure the 3.8 would fit in there, though I've seen a couple of 3.6 liter conversions in the boxster.

Good luck!


opps, ya meant 997 S. I don't see why the 3.8L wouldn't fit. It just a 3.6L bored out to 3.8L.

RavenFan_94 03-14-2005 11:25 AM

Thanks for the great responses
 
I appreciate the feedback. No, I don't expect to get SRT performance from a boxster. Just wanted to help the S car a bit.

clubhead 03-15-2005 01:32 AM

Liberate the ECU I say and post a dyno report! :) But I know you're not going to try that on your BRAND new car :(

clubhead 03-15-2005 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam
...if you want to retain the stock engine this will give you max gains. Not for the faint of heart. 390 hp on stock internals or 450hp if you want to go all the way.
http://www.t-t-p.de/english/986.php

Anyone knows anyone who has gone down the ttp route? Cost of the 450bhp upgrade is almost like buying another Boxster though....

Adam 03-15-2005 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clubhead
Anyone knows anyone who has gone down the ttp route? Cost of the 450bhp upgrade is almost like buying another Boxster though....

lol, yeah I know, but a 450hp boxster would be so money. Think of it this way, it has performance on par with a 180k Gt2 so it's a bargin!

Perfectlap 03-15-2005 09:25 AM

Mazda Miata: the ultimate Chick Car!

that car is the best car to learn peformance driving with. If I did even even 1/4 of the things that I tried with the Miata in car with some real power, I would be dead. Lowered and tighlty dampened, nothing but the elise can corner like that at 50mph withou spending a guy's annual salary.

oh wait...the Lotus Elise is a guy's annual salary! 1.8 engine for 50K? forget it...

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member.../789415_25.jpg http://memimage.cardomain.net/member.../789415_13.jpg

WoBoxster 08-10-2005 09:59 AM

1998 Porsche Boxster
1984 911 Carrera
2000 Mercedes SLK 230 Kompressor
2005 BMW 745 Li

RandallNeighbour 08-10-2005 10:49 AM

That's an impressive list of cars. How do you figure out which one to drive? Number of passengers? Weather? Color-coded calendar? :)

I drove my Lexus LS400 (MY95) today and really enjoyed the near-silent operation of the car, engine, tires on rough pavement and blocking of outside sounds. A completely different driving experience versus my top-down boxster. It's like driving your easy chair to work or something along those lines. No effort at all. After 10 years on the road, this car still works the way it should work.

I bet you feel that way about your 745Li... I've driven one and absolutely loved it. The wife thought it was too big though and wants a 545 or 530... no complaints from me if we really get a BMW. Good driving machine for a sedan.

JP-s-in st. louis 08-10-2005 12:06 PM

The new C6 would be right in the middle. With great acceleration and braking power.... Now if the interiors looked good.:(

My next might just be the new Z06 C6 best bang for the buck there is.

Till then I am working on a project of making the 2000 S I have meet or exceed 400+WHP.

Good Luck
:cheers:

civic 08-10-2005 05:22 PM

Well iv'e got a 2001 S meridian silver. I had to lower it cause i also have a WRX thats been lowered,chipped,exhaust, shocks and it kills the boxster. Also have an Yamaha R1 and it kills the wrx. But there all fun in different ways. However there is currently a Gemballa Boxster for sale in australia for $185k thats got 375kw ( 3.6Ltr bi-turbo ) i want it !!!!!!!!!!!

JP-s-in st. louis 08-10-2005 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by civic
Well iv'e got a 2001 S meridian silver. I had to lower it cause i also have a WRX thats been lowered,chipped,exhaust, shocks and it kills the boxster. Also have an Yamaha R1 and it kills the wrx. But there all fun in different ways. However there is currently a Gemballa Boxster for sale in australia for $185k thats got 375kw ( 3.6Ltr bi-turbo ) i want it !!!!!!!!!!!

Normal WRK or STI? and when you say kill is that from dig, corners, etc.? I have raced both and can stay with the STI (w/exhaust) from a 30-40mph roll.

civic 08-11-2005 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JP-s-in st. louis
Normal WRK or STI? and when you say kill is that from dig, corners, etc.? I have raced both and can stay with the STI (w/exhaust) from a 30-40mph roll.

The WRX has 170kw at all wheels. i have to say i was really disapointed with the boxster handling. every review said how great is was and i was expecting it to feel better than the wrx. The wrx is not standard so? however the wrx costs 50k with mods and the boxster new would be 145k. i put H&R springs in boxy to lower him 3cm and its better. just scrape on everything!!!! Porsche mechanic said the boxsters wallow a bit as there is some flex with no roof? To keep up with the wrx in a straight line you need to reallllly flog the porsche and as its my new baby it aint happening yet. Can't be roof down driving though so i forgive it...oh yeah porsches look better!!

Rail26 08-11-2005 05:07 AM

I think my 2002 Toyota 4 Runner would bridge that gap nicely! It has 225 HP (so you know it screams down the road), it can pick up A LOT of groceries, and any turn over 45 mph it will tip over and do an awesome power slide on the respective door! I love it! My favorite characteristic is it's aerodynamics...I think the drag coefficient approaches a highway billboard. I will post pics of it at the drag strip as soon as I get them..... :eek:

Carl AMG 08-11-2005 05:14 AM

My cars
 
2002 Mercedes C32 AMG - RENNTech Lowering Springs. I have autocrossed and tracked the car at MB Club events.

2003 Subaru WRX - Pretty heavily modified. Chip, exhaust, bigger intercooler, cold air intake, suspension work, stoptech brakes. 245 hp at the wheels. Track and autocross car.

2006 Boxster S - Less than 2 weeks old.

S_PILOT 10-24-2005 07:45 PM

2004 Corvette Z06. This is "my" car. I track it quite often at several road courses in the midwest. it's got everything. incredible high speed, low end torque that cannot be believed, and sticks to the track like glue(evidenced by it's 1G+ skidpad capability) :D

the Boxster S is primarily my wife's car, though it is a ball to toss around on the twisties here is cowtown country...

MNBoxster 10-24-2005 09:20 PM

HI,

In addition to my Boxster, I own an '85 Lotus Turbo Esprit (85 -90 pts. Car - 31k mi. - 2nd. Owner), a '71 Datsun 240Z (90-95 Pts. Car - 21k mi. - Original Owner) and a '90 Protoform Formula Vee maybe 4000 miles - Original Owner. Pretty happy with my little group...

Happy Motoring!...Jim'99

KShep 10-25-2005 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MNBoxster
HI,

In addition to my Boxster, I own an '85 Lotus Turbo Esprit (85 -90 pts. Car - 31k mi. - 2nd. Owner), a '71 Datsun 240Z (90-95 Pts. Car - 21k mi. - Original Owner) and a '90 Protoform Formula Vee maybe 4000 miles - Original Owner. Pretty happy with my little group...

Happy Motoring!...Jim'99

That IS a nice group. I would love to see a pic of the Z.

My g/f drives the Boxster. My daily driver is an F150. My thrid Z car is a heavily modified, 400whp twin turbo 350Z that is a blast to drive but a headache to maintain. Waiting for the Cayman with the DSG tranny...I miss having a warranty.

MNBoxster 10-25-2005 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KShep
That IS a nice group. I would love to see a pic of the Z...

Hi,

Here you go...

BoxsterSbob 10-25-2005 06:34 AM

Hi, I've owned:

Cars
'87 Alfa Milano 2.5
'88 Alfa Spider
'96 Corvette LT4
'01 Miata LS
and currently the '04 986S.

Outside of K&N air filters I didn't do any mods.

Bikes
'72 Honda CB 450 -no mods
'75 Honda CB 500T - exhaust system
'79 Honda GL 1000 -suspension
'99 HD Sportster- exhaust, carb, ignition, suspension, seat and tires
'80 HD Sturgis - restoration, stock
'05 Buell XB12scg- nothing yet.


Thinking about an exhaust system for the box...just a bit confused as to which one.

tmc 10-25-2005 07:30 AM

I've owned:

BMW '02 330CiC
BMW '04 M3 convertible

my wife drives a BMW 325iT, manual transmission

Porsche and BMW have different personalities. I honestly feel that BMWs are better "finished off" The M3 didn't handle as well as my 987S, not even close. That being said, it was a helluva car.

tmc

KShep 10-25-2005 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MNBoxster
Hi,

Here you go...

Very clean looking Z. Nice to see one that has been taken care of. If you ever get the urge for a trip...we have an event each Spring in NC at The Tail of the Dragon.

http://www.zdayzevents.com/index.htm

Pic of 150+ Z's lining up for group shot.
Would like to get more 1st generation Z's to attend. Two fellows drove over 1K miles in a 1st gen and a Z32...both won their class.


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