Is this bad?
 

Lately every night I've been taking the Boxster out just to drive it really hard. Like every U Turn I'm kicking the back end out so the car is basically sideways. I've seen 120 every single trip in it on the freeway. First time I've damn near red lined it last night. Just for fun.

The car isn't acting up or anything. Should the only thing that can come from this wearing of the tires or is there much worse that I can be wearing down by driving it so hard?

Oh man,hearing my little brother yell 'holy ****************' in the middle of a u-turn then seeing his face get pale was totally worth it.

Probably not the best idea you ever had Blink. Sounds like you are overdue for some track days. :)

Sounds like you need more power... Until you scare yourself you won't be happy.
(I'll bet he never has an IMS failure!)

Tell me about it man. Thankfully the big wide streets of Elk Grove are empty at night and the freeway to get there from my house is 8 miles in a straight line! It's a good spot to stretch your cars legs.

Just got really really pissed about a 6 hour long spark plug change...damn coil pak came loose after I changed the plugs,I started up the car...it rumbled...15 seconds later a flashing CEL(P0301- Misfire Cylinder 1 damage to cat.) ...then to top it off once I got it all squared away the car had a pingy sound that I spent another hour trying to figure out what it was. I think it was just extra gas being burnt off in the combustion chamber of cylinder 1 cause it slowly went away. At least anything related to the spark plug,coil pak and stuff looks really clean now. :D

I wouldn't mind it,but my college budget does. :(

Blinkwatt,
You are an idiot. You give all Porsche drivers a bad name. Forget the fact you don't have the skills of Michael Schumacher in the event of an emergency, you don't have the right to put the lives of others in danger. Grow up, or stay home.

Thank you for that informative post.

Well, you did crash your first Boxster.

Oh man,the only regret I had about that car was not driving it hard enough and not crashing it doing something fun. I was driving like a grandma switching freeways in rain. LAME.

not at all, as long as no one is in danger. What's the point of having a sports car and driving it around like a 80yr old. I can't count the number of Z06's (just an example) and other exotic cars that I've glanced over to see some 70 to 80 year old driving. knowing the car has never seen 100 mph. What a waste.

Boxster101, personally I think he doesnt give Porsche drivers a bad name, we ALL do it and those that say they dont/never have are ignorant... as they say: Ignorance is Bliss.

On the matter of putting lives in danger, you do it every time you step in any car under any conditions. The most dangerous thing a normal person can do is get in a car... but we all do it anyways. Im not saying there is no logic in bringing up a skill level and what to do in an emergency at a high speed or hard turn, but when there's no one around i feel its perfectly fine because the results of your actions would be your own.

Ohh btw, Germany is doing just fine with the Autobahn.
:D :cheers:

2K3_Boxster_S have you researched
 

the law in VA for exceeding the speed limit by over 20MPH or driving more than 80. I suggest you do it soon.

A VA Reckless driving conviction will result in being convicted of a class 1 misdemeanor pursuant to Virginia Code Section 18.2-11. The maximum statutory penalty for a class one misdemeanor is twelve (12) months in jail, six months suspension of your Virginia driver's license for six months plus a fine of $2,500.

Congratulations on learning how to CUT and PASTE. or did you get help with that?

Whats the penalty for going 0 to 45 mph in 4.7 seconds in a 45 mph zone?

Well some states like Illinois have whats called an "Engine Braking" Law which means flooring it from 0-45 will result in a ticket if caught. :D (The law was derived to catch "Street Racers" who had radar guns and wouldnt finish their stoplight grand prix because the detector went off.. so the cop could still put 2 and 2 together to ticket them anyways for the loud engine/exhaust noise.)

Its a bs law, but it's still there... Where did our freedom go? :confused:



In all honesty though, this is a peaceful forum 2K3.. please don't make attacks, snipes, or rude/ignorant comments to other members of this forum whether it is justified or not. Two wrongs do not make a right, and treat others as you would have then treat you. Please keep that in mind for future reference because this forum was created for everyone's (including yours) benefit.

Must be nice to be where you guys are at, allowed to speed, gun the engine, hard braking.

Not in Ohio... we be in a Pole Leese State. Cross into the Buckeye and a State Boy will be there to check your ticket.

It's not that were allowed to do it. There are just certain areas and certain times that no one is around.

Laws are pretty tough in Calif. too. If caught for excessive speed, wreckless, or street racing, the car may be impounded at the officers discretion. Blink is playing a little Russian roulette here with his car. But... let those of us who have never done this sort of thing in our youth cast the first stone. (I paraphrase) :)

Blink, aside from a little extra wear and tear on the equipment it's not bad at all. It's a sports car and a Porsche one at that. It's designed to be braked hard, turned hard, accelerated hard. I like to go out for fun drives to, but I always have a fear of the man lurking (for good reason) so going all out on a public road isn't the best idea. Have you considered autocross or track days? So much more fun because you don't have to worry about the things you do on a public road. Plus, it feeds my need to compete against others.

When is a question, not a question? When it is phrased like the one that started this thread.

So, you KNOW that if you hammer the car, it will shorten its life. That is simply a law of physics. You know the brakes and tires will wear out faster, erc. That is why they are called "wear items" in the warranty.

That is your issue of course; if your engine grenades or you drope a grand on tires, it is between you and you.

If you plow your silly a** into someone else, that is where the issue changes quite a bit.

And, if the CHP gets you on your little 120 joy ride, well, the tires will seem like a cheap deal.

So, lets end this little thread right here. If you want to take your car to the track and run it above red line, be my guest. That is what the track is for; speed and testing your skill, if you have any.

If you want to drive it into me and mine, we have another conversation, right?

Be very careful how your respond.

:)

haha I wasiting for Bruce! You've gotten soft my man! This should have been locked awhile ago....

I'm like Ricky Bobby...I like to go fast....but talking about it on the board is a big no no....and 120 on the highway is a mistake....whether you think you are alone or not...

I would hate to see you filp that car and see a complete different expression on your bro's face....just a side note

I love driving fast and the Box is one of the best cars on earth for doing it in.

On the track, I think it is one of life's great experiences.

Out there, generally, you are the only one you can maim or kill.

The Autobahn vs U.S. Highways
 

I drove the autobahn every day for ten years and there are three reasons why it is relatively safe: (1) German drivers spend months, sometimes years learning to drive before they are issued a driver's license. (2) Germans are the most disciplined drivers in the world. They always signal their intentions and they understand lane discipline. It's a driving violation to not get over for a faster car. (3) Most (not all) of their cars are designed to run safely on the autobahn.
Having said that, they also have some of the most horrendous crashes in the world with dozens of cars and dozens of fatalities in a single incident. The most frequent cause of these accidents is fog. Drivers often don't slow down enough and since you can't see enough to gauge your speed, drivers often speed on into the fog and then into each other.
Giving a 15 or 16 year old a driver's license after they pass a simple written test and drive around the block is ridiculous at best and criminal at worst. Just look at the statistics.

Just my 2 cents!

"would hate to see you filp that car and see a complete different expression on your bro's face....just a side note!"

You got that right!

This was just posted in another thread.

Imagine the chances?????

See below

Thank you everyone.

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I haven't really made any posts here, but I wanted to thank everyone for their knowledge, and the sharing of experience. I totaled my box yesterday after a very brief ownership. Although I walked away completely unharmed, I thought I would share the video I shot after the crash. Be careful out there! Hopefully, one day I will rejoin you all on the forum with another Porsche. It truly was a great car to drive....

Just to give you the brief rendition of what happened, I lost control on a curve, hit the retaining wall, and spun into the Mercedes you see in the video. Nobody was injured.

After the crash.

Let's see the video please. what thread was it in?

Must be nice living in your own world, where you only worry about you, and not your brother, or the other people on the road.

At 120 mph, you do not have the skills to recover from even slightest distraction...deer pops out, minivan changes lanes, tire blows, etc, etc - YOU'RE DEAD...which is really just natures way of weeding out the weak. The problem is, you're very likely to kill someone else - someone with kids, someone with a family that loves and needs them.

Civic kid
 

This dude could end up like "Civic kid" on Jalopnik.com

http://jalopnik.com/5342864/enter-civic-kid-like-slr-guy-only-nerdy

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/image...ivic_Kid_1.jpg

Grandmother Stunt Driver
 

Here in Toronto, we had a 63 year old lady pulled over for "street racing".
Here car was impounded and she was given a big ticket. She was also
left on the side of the street. She fought that she was not street racing,
and that she has a very good driving record. She was disturbed by the
fact that they would leave her on the corner of the road, for driving too fast.


Apparently, she was driving in a 80 zone and pulled over at 130kmh. She says
that she only over took a slow moving truck. She was at 130 for only 30seconds.
Okay I agree, that you don't have to hit 130 to over take a truck lol.... that's
sketchy for sure. But street racing for driving too fast. 60 year lady!

She got off! http://www.thestar.com/news/ontario/article/693457

Ummm, no. She was doing 80 mph in a 50 mph zone. Metric system. Sounds like the cop was a jack a_ _.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5717OddVxM&NR=1

another vid from the owner. he sounds really intelligent. :rolleyes:

This is how it's done at Watkins Glen: Leh Keen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyM-egecTlw

Yup, look at the video at the accident scene. Clear day, dry road, wide road, nicely paved.... it wasn't the road or conditions. He had to simply be driving too fast for his abilities or for the car.

As for Blink driving fast late at night on a straight, vacant highway.... my advice would be to get a good radar detector. I recommend the Valentine 1. A lot of CHP in Cali just leave their radar on and the V1 will let you know two miles before you can even see them! If you want to drive fast without anyone else around, at least don't get caught doing it. :p

As for Ohio police - I hear ya vath2001! I grew up in Ohio and the state police situation disgusts me every time I go back to visit. Try crossing from Indiana to Ohio on I-70. 95% of the time there's a couple troopers sitting there just waiting to pick off people not adjusting for the speed limit change. :mad: Too many highway patrol just trying to pull in revenue in that state.

Kirk

amazing video - wish I could drive like that - Keen is the best of the best

Don't take me wrong as I certainly wish I was wrong, but Ohio State Patrol are born without a soul!! In my 2400 mile trip from Cali to columbus, I saw more cops from the indiana/ohio line to dayton than I did my whole trip, with the exception of Iowa(but there was a 3 car pile up). The bastards have even taken flight. Toledo, columbus, dayton and I am sure most big cities have adopted the bear in the air. I am still trying to develope true stealth technology!!

Ohio patrol's new motto is "we stopped the quota system years ago, so we can now write more tickets!!"

Only they won't be just your own expenses
 

Someone else is either paying your medical expenses or sharing in them through the rise in medical insurance premiums.

Someone else is paying to dig you out of your car and your car out of the woods.

And the taxpayers pay the police expenses of the required investigation.

And if the car is hurt, I'm sure you'll be wanting to collect on insurance.

This of course assumes that there is no one else involved.

The Fast and The Reckless
 

I'm 62, just bought my first Porsche, a new to me 1999 Boxster, and immediately took it out on the most winding mountainous road I could find and pushed it to my limits. The car is so deceptively fast that I've found myself at over 100 mph on several occasions thinking I was only going 65. I've tried, unsuccessfully, to break the rear end loose by going 65 through a notoriously hairy 20mph turn at Point Reyes and the car never even squeeled the tires. Sobering reality came to me a couple of weeks ago when I was coming home from a docent party at PR, had the top down on a warm starry night, with the moon rising, and was cruising at 65 on a long, open stretch of road by Nicasio Dam. I was just ready to put my foot into it and open it up when two full grown deer jumped in front of me. I can't begin to tell you all the things that went through my mind at light speed including the memory of a high school friend who hit a donkey at night in Mexico in his 914 and it decapitated his girlfriend in the passenger seat. I braced for impact and put the binders on and was just ready to duck down so the deer would hopefully slide over the top of me when the car stopped so fast and so straight my teeth almost came out. The deer hadn't moved and were so close to the front that I could see their eyes. They strolled off into the brush and the story has a happy ending due to the incredible design of the Porsche breaking system. Point is no matter how familiar, deserted or safe you think you are we live in a populated world of humans and animals and any one of them can come out of nowhere and change the course of lives. Do I still want to take my car to the limit of my ability? Every time I get in it but I will do my radical driving at the track from now on and enjoy the performance of my car on the street within the limits that are required for safety of myself and others. My opinion and not posted to criticize or influence the opinion of others.

I have to agree with you. Even on closed race course you are taking a risk, but that risk is Greatly reduced by the fact that it is being done in a controlled environment. Therefore making it a bit safer. It really is dumb to go flying 133mph down a public road regardless of the time of day or congestion. Not to say that I havn't done it. I have turned towards AutoX and Closed Circuit Courses for pushing the Boxster past legal freeway speed zones.

Also, back to your comment "I've tried, unsuccessfully, to break the rear end loose by going 65 ............"

I am assuming you have PSM turned on when you tried this? It is fairly easy to get the back out with PSM turned off. I would not suggest trying at speed of 65 mph. I keep it off for lower speed autocross.

My Box doesn't have PSM so I've been attributing it's traction to the PZero tires that are on it. The turn I mentioned also has a very wide hard packed dirt ramp next to where the car would slide into and not impact anything if it did break loose. I'm going to the SR Autocross this Saturday for the first time and expect it to be challenging enough to give the car, and more importantly myself, a test. I want to come away with a better idea of how to drive this great piece of machinery.