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Old 06-08-2009, 08:38 AM   #1
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$1000 to spend on suspension

what would u get? i autox my 03 boxster tiptronic every week during the season...

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Old 06-08-2009, 09:11 AM   #2
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$1000 is a bit tight, if that includes the cost of alignment.

If you can't stretch to $1500-$2000, then about the only thing you can do for <$1000 is top-flight sways and drop-links. They will make a big difference, so don't discount this as a good starting point.

If you can stretch the budget a bit, then I'd recommend RoW M030 suspension kit + aftermarket drop links. This will cost you closer to $1500 all-in if you do your own wrenching but pay for an alignment.

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Old 06-08-2009, 09:56 AM   #3
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1000 bucks to spend

I would get the GT3 front sway bar, a H&R rear sway and Tarrett adjustable drop links front and rear.
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Old 06-08-2009, 10:03 AM   #4
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This is the setup I am planning on & best prices I have found:

-GT3 Front Swaybar: http://www.pcars.com/porsche_parts/shop.php/porsche/carrera-2/4/turbo-996-/suspension-steering-system/stabilizer/p_137032.html

-ROW M030 Rear Swaybar: http://e-partssales.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=P&Product_Code=M030RearSway&Category_Code=986sus

(the word is that the rear bar doesn't have nearly the impact as the front bar)

-DesignTek Droplinks F&R: http://www.design911.co.uk/fu/pt65_910_-cma81-cmo82-ct287/Porsche/Boxster/Boxster-986-2-5L-1997-99/Performance-Suspension/Alloy-Drop-Links---Control-Arms/

(There hasn't been much mileage on these, but they are comparatively inexpensive and the initial results are good: Upgrading your sway bar drop links )

-Rear Subframe reinforcement (TechnoBrace): http://www.pedrosgarage.com/Site/Performance%20Products.html

-Alignment

What tires are you running?
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Old 06-08-2009, 12:21 PM   #5
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thanx for the inputs Stroked & Blown

im running 245 all around right now on re01-r ....got them cheap when they were on sale....after that im getting kumho xs the new tire...245 front 275 rear

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Old 06-09-2009, 07:05 AM   #6
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how about strut tower bar? r they worth getting??
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how about strut tower bar? r they worth getting??
Nope. They do look neato...

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I guess I should explain a bit more:

There's no harm to adding them, but they don't really do anything unless you have upgraded the rest of the suspension and track/autox the car a lot... then the added strength and stiffness is nice to have.

On an otherwise stock suspension, the "improvement" made by a strut tower brace will be in your imagination...
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Old 06-09-2009, 11:15 AM   #8
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A couple of monts ago I picked up a complete MO30 ROW kit ( shocks, springs and sway bars and bushings ) for $1K delivered. Got them from the west cost supplier and they are wonderful. If you do the work yourself all you need is extra money for a good alignment. Not all that hard , just long for all four corners ( for me about 6 hours ). Made a big difference. Ed
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Old 06-09-2009, 11:53 AM   #9
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Seriously..

I'm working with a guy right now on the handling of his TIP.. Somebody suggested the H&R rear bar.. too stiff. It likes to lift the inside rear wheel..


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comon brad ....i know any track school will improve my driving skill....i am looking upgrade for the car....but thanx for the head up on h&r rear sway bar is too stiff.. im going with m30 rear sway bar

Stroked & Blown...damn that gt3 front sway bar is outta stock...thats a damn good deal too....grr
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comon brad ....i know any track school will improve my driving skill....i am looking upgrade for the car....but thanx for the head up on h&r rear sway bar is too stiff.. im going with m30 rear sway bar

Stroked & Blown...damn that gt3 front sway bar is outta stock...thats a damn good deal too....grr
That stinks....Just saw it on design911.co.uk for $225. Just search the site for 99634370190
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Do a solid search before buying a rear bar for your car. From just my prelim looking around.. the MO30 is nothing more than a stock S rear bar..


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Retail on the 99634370190 GT3 bar is $408 from Porsche.


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As you are already finding out, there is a lot of steer manure on the internet posing as "Boxster Performance Upgrades". Take your money they will, make your car measurably faster... not so much. I appreciate your enthusiasm. Choose wisely.

If you are running 245/40/17 RE01Rs x 4 you are on very competitive tires for street stock. If you are not already outrunning all of the stock 996s and most of the stock 997s in Auto-X... it ain't the car.

With $1000 to spend to get the most real performance gains I would:
Lower the car 1", get a performance alignment, and remove 100lbs of weight. Maybe you will still have a little left over to take honey out to dinner.
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Old 06-09-2009, 02:27 PM   #15
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My favorites are the front and rear strut tower braces..
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My favorites are the front and rear strut tower braces..
Rear tower brace? Are you serious? I've always thought the rear would be stiff enough with the roll bar...

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No no.. they are a JOKE. The Boxster (compared to the CaymanS) has a huge STEEL bridge between the rear shock towers!!! The Cayman has nothing. In the front of a Boxster, it has two FACTORY braces in place.. and Porsche thought they were good enough for the GT3 CUP CARS!! and yet I still see people selling strut tower braces (WTF??) Most people never pull back the front plastic and SEE the damn things!! LOL They instead bolt a new shock tower brace OVER them.. LOL


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on my 2000 Boxster S that I use for daily driver and track days (DE), Should I go with ROW M030 or Bilstein PSS9?

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Old 06-09-2009, 03:11 PM   #19
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Go with the Bilsteins. I see you have a 914, so this means you have been driving a mid-engine car for awhile I run the Bilsteins with 450 and 500 rate springs with GT3 bar and Tarett 4 way rear bar on a lot of Boxster's. This REALLY balances the car out nicely. It is the same setup we ended up with on the BoxsterSpec cars.

Saying that.. I also have Boxster's with 700 and 800 rate springs under them, but not on PSS9's.


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Brad, I got my hands on a front S bar, so we'll see how that does on the track. We're doing one little change at a time to see how that affects the car's performance.

There are a few more autocrosses this year - I think I'm going to request another number for the car so that I can run too.

Although it hasn't been mentioned (unless I missed it), GT3 control arms and Brad's recommended alignment settings totally transformed our Tip Boxster.

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