Understanding the Anti-Freeze Rainbow?
Greetings all!
I just picked up my first Porsche, a 2001 Boxster that was gently used, (30K original miles) and seems to be well maintained. In going over the car this past weekend for the first time and detailing it, I noticed the coolant bottle was a little low (below the min mark when cold). After searching here, and reading the potential horror stories, I dropped the $32.00 a gallon the dealer wanted for Porsche coolant (pink stuff.) I mixed it 50/50 with distilled water to top off the tank, and when I went to pour it in, noticed (and confirmed with a sample) that the stuff in there already was actually the orange-ish, "DexCool" looking stuff. Should I, or shouldn't I top it off with Porsche Pink? Eventually I want to flush it, as I don't have any records for that being done, (I can only imagine it was), but in the mean time, will topping the bottle off with a quart of pink mixed 50/50 cause me issues? Thanks! Bill |
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If you are going to flush it, and you want to use the magic Porsche coolant, why not save it for after the flush. In the meantime, just top off with straight distilled H2O and you will avoid any potential problems (i.e., gelling) which MAY come with mixing two types of coolant. Regards, Maurice. |
Link to a coolant flush DIY?
Very little info in the Bentley service manual - esp for a DIY. Just babble about a special Porsche tool that will save the planet and is of course only available at your Porsche dealer.
I need to do it this weekend and was looking for some tips before I started. |
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You will also need at least a second gallon of the Porsche coolant as the system typically holds between 4-5 gallons of mixed coolant. You are also paying way too much for the Porsche anti freeze, we just bought several gallons from Sunset Porsche and paid about $20 per gallon. |
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OK, it doesn't matter whether there is oem or aftermarket coolant in there. It doesn't matter whether there's a mix of proper or improper coolant in there either.
There are two things which dictate the system s/b flushed and the fluid should be changed. First, you have no idea what's in there, that alone dictates a need to service the system. Second, save one (Evans NPG - waterless coolant rated to 500k mi.), no other coolant currently in use is rated at more than 5 yrs./150k mi. (incl. Porsche brand) whichever comes first. Many Boxsters are now coming to the end of this useful life and the coolant in these cars is not running up to spec in either lubrication or corrosion protection. It appears that this is one maintenance item overlooked by many owners and we have seen several reported cooling system failures recently. Is this just coincidence, or is this the result of running 'used up' coolant? The alloy components used in the Boxster (to save weight and improve heat transfer) are in some cases almost paper-thin and require proper lube and corrosion protection much more than the copper/brass components used in the past. It's not a big deal for a DIY, or expensive as Porsche repair goes, so just do it and take your mind off of it. :cheers: |
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If you cannot do it properly your self, or do not know how, take it to someone that does……………. |
Thanks for the info. Leave it up to the Germans to make something like antifreeze a topic of debate. :) I think this weekend I will be flushing it out DIY. Other than the Snap-On kit, anyone know of a good "how to" that's published on doing it right, or tools that can aid in keeping air out? What about pressures? If you pull a vaccuum on the system, is there a chance of pulling too much and collapsing something?
I did talk to the dealer, who gave me a run-down on the fluids. Apparently, the original Porsche fluid is green - somewhat in color to prestone and is the "lifetime" stuff. They actually didn't want to quote me a price on them flushing it, as they said it was "lifetime" rated. (yea right). Then I guess there is an Orange fluid also which appers to be what I'm filled with now, that's a DexCool replacement, and now the new Porsche fluid is pink/red. The pink/orange should be ok together..but I'm not going to take a risk on mixing it into yet another color. :) Why this can't be simple I have no idea, but I'll flush it out and replace it so that I will finally know what the hell is in there. :) BTW - Milwaukee area dealer wants 260.00 labor, plus parts to do a flush. They said their procedure is to let the fluid gravity drain, and then they use a machine to purge it, and then they refill. They budget at least 2 to 4 hours to completely drain it. Thanks again! Bill |
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No disagreement here at all. What I was saying was that the arguement as to whether there was 'mixed' fluid in there or not was moot... it was past it's service life and should be changed. I am fully aware of the problems associated with using non-compatible fluid, such as gelling, which you mentioned, and attacking the cooling system components, which you did not. :cheers: |
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