What Exhaust do you like?
 

I know this has been kicked around quite a bit from reading through the forums, but I would like some opinions as to what is the best aftermarket exhaust company to go with.

I just purchased a 2001 S and would like to upgrade it with a nice sounding exhaust kit.

This car will be used as a toy and will be babied to death. I actually found a 1 owner California car with 13'000 miles on her. Literally has never been in rain and garaged all her life. Perfect color combination too. Guards Red with Savannah Full leather interior. Paint is flawless and optioned to the hilt.

Was thinking of doing the full scope Fabspeed headers and exhaust kit along with the powerchip mod, but would really appreciate any professional comments on this.

Thanks, Jon

dansk headers, high flow cats, and the dansk sausage on my S.

i think the sausage is a lil restrictive though. i will be changing mine out this summer.

adding the evo intake made the whole thing sound LOTS better : )

Benny, did you install the Evo yourself? Do you think it was worth it and have you had any CEL's with anything? Seems like headers make a huge diffrence on these cars, expecially after I watched the Fabspeed comparison video.

yeah, i installed it. honestly, the hardest part was putting 1 last bolt in to secure the heat shield.

the whole thing is tedious, but its not hard by any means. i didn't have to break the OE intake box, well at least not much, i could still put it all back in, and no one would know the difference.

was it worth it? if you are looking for sound, then yeah. if you are looking for just a lil more umph, then sure. but this is no magic pill. it will not transform your car into a beast.

combined with my other mods, it works well.

no cels. (knocks on wood. but I do have a pre-existing slow to read o2 sensor. I had that prior to this install. its still there.)

headers are good, as are the cats, and a chip, if you can run higher octane once ina while. I have the revo program, that allows me to switch between 100octane and 93 and 91 and stock programs. the 100oct program is pretty fun : )

Jwade, I would vote for the Porsche Sport Exhaust. No resonance issues.

I say straight pipes!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1VI-rTaUmU

or you can do the Pedro exhaust hack. This muffler is an OEM muffler with a bypass pipe going around the muffler. Ignore my ugly tips, it was a temporary muffler.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEPv_l6GBfw

bmussatti,

Any advice on where to pick one of these PSE's up that is relatively economical?

Jwade, try here:

http://e-partssales.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=P&Product_Code =00004420012&Category_Code=986exhaust

And try www.sunsetporsche too for better pricing.

I like my stock '00 S exhaust that has been modified to sound like the PSE. Mostly because it was free and doesn't add any weight, unlike the PSE.

I agree with you john, i have had straight pipes the PSE hack and now maxspeed, of them all I liked the PSE hack the most.

I am now considering a PSE hack on my maxspeed muffler

Jwade,
You are in luck! I was just browsing thru Ebay and i came across:
Item number: 180216228576. This is a direct bolt on fit on your 01 S. It is extremely rare to find a used PSE out there.
I have the same identical PSE and i love it a LOT. I didnt bother installing the
vacuum/electronic switches since the sound is very subtle with no resonance.

I saw it. Thx.

Quick question? Does this exhasut sound alot different than the stock version?

Have you ever posted up a video? Would love to hear what it soundslike on the S version engine. Jon

Jwade, do a search on You Tube.

I did, and the only one I could find was the PSE on a 2.7 standard Boxster.

Is there a version out there for the 3.2 S w/ PSE or does it really matter?

As for an aftermarket exhaust. I think you need to decide what's more important to you, loud sound or no resonance. It's hard to have a loud exhaust without also having resonance. The only resonance-free options I know of are PSE, Gemballa, Pedro mod, and I believe Dansk.

After considerable research, it seems like I am basically torn between the PSE (added weight, but OEM Porsche, but no extra power) and the Fabspeed full system that includes both the exhaust and header / sport cat option (more power, but at a significant cost.

Is there anything else out there I should consider??? Please speak up as I will listen...I'm not a hardhead by any means and want to do this the RIGHT WAY.

I can get the PSE for well under @2000 shipped to my door. The Fabspeed is a whole diffrent story, especially considering the header option. If you know what I'm talking about, then you know how much....

I will use this car as a toy and no daily driving whatsoever. With that being said, should I say the hell with it and spend the money on the Fabspeed full system approach or deal with stock cats and headers for the PSE?

Thanks. Jon

I have to agree with Kirk on this.

I personally can describe the PSE sound on a 986 much like a stock 996 - absolutely NO resonance across all rev. bands. That is why i have my PSE on default (always ON) mode.

I just had a local Porsche shop put in the exhaust and headers from Maxspeed-Motorsports. I am picking it up tonight and will let you know. The EVO intake is going in this weekend.
Chris

I have the FabSpeed exhaust on my 02 S and I am looking to get rid of it. PM me if interested.

Patrick

Please let me know what differences you experience (ie noise, more power, etc...) Looks like you went with the entire system.

I put a Billy Boat exhuast on my 1999 2.5L last year. The first time my wife road it in it after it was installed she said "Sounds like you need a new muffler". It"s loud but cool. Makes the car sound a hell of a lot faster than it is and sounds great at the track. I 'd recommend it to anyone. Seems to be a little quicker than it was.

I finally have the Maxspeed headers and exhaust installed. It sure is loud especially at 2500 rpm. I don't mind it though as I try not to leave it there. :) For not having a ton of money to throw at it I am quite happy. There are others with this same setup here too.
Chris

Do you think it added some power or just a louder sound? Also, how much did it set you back for parts and installation? Thx, Jon

Check this video out, This 986 is got a RUF exhaust system, Sounds great!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wMrXv1lvYs

That sounded pretty nice. RUF makes great parts.

There website says it costs $2999.00 :eek:

Great news - I just bought the PSE for my S. Now I can tell the better half I didn't buy the most expensive exhaust I could find! Honey - look at all the money I saved! :D
Kevin

Can you explain the hack? Got pix?

I have a factory muffler that I'd like to try this on because the muffler I got from Che is giving me headaches with all the drone/cabin resonance between 2-3k rpm.

Wow, yeah, that RUF exhaust Does sound really really good!

I would throw a $100 bill on the table and bet that RUF system has the most annoying, migraine-producing cabin resonance one could imagine.

I would agree with that!!!

This is a great little hack.

I ran a pipe I think 1 inch, that bypassed the muffler.
So some of the exhaust gasses ran around the muffler and where un muffled. SO the sound is louder.

This is my video of the PSE on an unmodified 2.5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEPv_l6GBfw

Here is a link showing the directions for this hack:
http://www.ppbb.com/boards/ppbbphp/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=ARCHIVES&Number=1067764&Fo rum=ARCHIVES&Words=pedro%20sport%20exhaust&Match=E ntire%20Phrase&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=1year&Mai n=1067764&Search=true#Post1067764

Out of all of the muffler systems for the 2.5 I have heard the Pedro SE is my favorite. The only reason I removed it is that I placed the tips from my straight pipes on my oem muffler and the tips looked like ass. I came across a great deal on a maxspeed muffler and jumped on it.

The maxspeed muffler is too quiet for me....I guess something about have turboes inline makes the exhaust quieter. Since its quiet for my taste I will work on a new muffler hack.

Back to the question at hand. The PSE is a great simple $100 hack. I would try it before spending any money on a muffler.

Power gains...possible but do it for the sound.

I think the hack idea is worth trying. However, I got the Dansk and am pretty happy with it. Not as loud as some of the others out there. Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't Porsche use Dansk as a supplier? The exhaust almost looks like the PSE but without the funky tips. Dansk also offers the PSE OEM tips on their exhausts as well.

Having said that, I still think there is "some" resonance on my exhaust at the lower RPM levels. Especially when I compare it to my friends factory PSE on his 02 Carrera.

The headers are what added the power, the exhaust maybe a little. The resonance is right up there. After the EVO install the intake is very aggressive sounding too and actually helped cut some of the muffler resonance a tiny bit (noticed it right away).

The Maxspeed muffler is going to give you a resonance sound like some of the more expensive mufflers so it is a good way to see if you can tolerate it without breaking the bank. However, I spent a lot on having Musante Motorsports put it back together because I ran into sheered off bolts in the block, broken taps and some other nightmare problems. They ended up putting studs into the block, attached the headers, fixed up the reset of the exhaust and put the car back together. After all was said and done it set me back $1300. Those guys build Porsche race cars so I didn't mind spending money with them. Great folks.
Chris

How would you PSE hack the Maxspeed?