got my ecu tuned by powerchip - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

dcporsche99 · 03-28-2007, 10:35 AM

"FINAL CONCLUSION

My now good friend, arenared, PMed me and brought light to my predicament.

If you notice my descriptions...Loss in 1st and 2nd gear, torquey in 5th gear, fast in 3rd gear, it leads to one conclusion: There is a loss at high RPM.

I would have never considered this. I always assumed that the high end yielded the most gains.

I am going to return this product A.S.A.P.

Meeting a girl Thursday night and have an auto-x Sunday but Monday I am going to...immediately.

Thanks to everyone for your insight and thanks especially to arenared for showing me what was right under my nose.

I no longer recommend this product for a 987 if it is your only mod."

Hey Bav,

Just wondering what made you change your mind?? I thought you were going to return it ASAP?? Customer service is one thing, but actually getting what you wanted is another.

Anyway, looks like you've made your decision to keep it. But, do keep us posted!

Thanks again for sharing your experience!

super66 · 03-28-2007, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by dcporsche99

Hey Bav,

Just wondering what made you change your mind?? I thought you were going to return it ASAP?? Customer service is one thing, but actually getting what you wanted is another.

Anyway, looks like you've made your decision to keep it. But, do keep us posted!

Thanks again for sharing your experience!

I kind of had the same take especially with the money where your mouth is...I mean money where your mouth is send it back here is your 600, not discounting a product....ummm....I'm staying away fo now but thanks for the info you've passed along on this chip......keep us posted for sure

SD987 · 03-28-2007, 12:55 PM

If a chip gave me the improvement in fuel economy that you originally noted, I'd keep it for that reason alone.

jinijazz · 03-28-2007, 01:09 PM

Bav, you said the throttle response was improved.
How do you compare it with sport mode(Sport Chrono)?

eslai · 03-29-2007, 12:20 AM

If it was significant horsepower, you'd feel it without question. The fact that you're thinking a PSE would make any difference also indicates that you're the type of guy that would be easy to sell parts to.

Skepticism will keep your pocket fat, especially in the aftermarket parts arena where everyone and their brother is selling snake oil.

And, the thing I always ask is, "if all it took was this one little part to give me "X" amount of improvement, why wasn't it done this way at the factory?"

If this thing is really generating better fuel economy, what negative effect is it having that was tuned out at the factory? Everything's a compromise.

To get better fuel economy, you could be running leaner at idle or low throttle. Great, except for the increased emissions. As long as you're not hugging trees or give a crap about children, that's fine.

Bavarian Motorist · 03-29-2007, 04:03 AM

The gas mileage is definitely improved. There's no question about that. By how much? I can't really say, but it's steadily improved from 19.9 to 21, and this is including an auto-cross and some high performance "testing" of this chip.

The throttle I cannot compare to the sport mode because I don't have that

Eslai: Are you kidding? I've spent months and months trying to find a single product that guaranteed themselves so I would not have to waste $$.

I don't know if you remember when I joined but that was the first thing I asked about; Mods.

I am a very skeptical person but I also realized that spending months & months debating on whether or not I want to spend a few hundred dollars doesn't make any sense either, so I decided to take the bait and see what's up.

Sometimes that's the only way to really know...

Anyways, I think that instead of a PSE, I am going to buy a 1st gen. Miata for track driving and auto-crossing. My car keeps getting all dinged up.

Bavarian Motorist · 03-29-2007, 04:11 AM

Btw, I just want to say that I think it's faster.

The debates going on in my head were really as to how much faster it is, if it's a lot faster and if it's faster ALL AROUND, but over-all I think it pulls harder.

Anyways, my offer still stands. Anyone who wants to drive my car can and perhaps they can do a comparison themselves. That might solve all of this, or at least help.

edevlin · 03-29-2007, 04:53 AM

"Anyways, my offer still stands. Anyone who wants to drive my car can and perhaps they can do a comparison themselves. That might solve all of this, or at least help."

First let me say that I am quite pleased with the Autothority chip in my 2.7L Boxster, not that much increase in peak HP, but very responsive. That being said, I dont know how useful having someone drive your car will be to demonstrate how well your chip works.

Here is my reasoning, I recently testdrove drove a 2001 2.7L Boxster with 63K and a 2000 2.7L with 43K. There seemed to be a very noticable difference in responsiveness and power in the 2001 car, even though it is supposed to have the same engine and HP. The other example I have experienced is my car and a almost identically setup 2000 2.7L Boxster.

Same chip, exhaust, intake, just different wheels. The other Boxster was much, much more responsive (could break the tires loose pretty easily in first gear). So I may be hard to tell how much of the difference in drivability is just inherent in your car,

Cheers,

Ed

porsche986spyder · 03-29-2007, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Bavarian Motorist

Btw, I just want to say that I think it's faster.

The debates going on in my head were really as to how much faster it is, if it's a lot faster and if it's faster ALL AROUND, but over-all I think it pulls harder.

Anyways, my offer still stands. Anyone who wants to drive my car can and perhaps they can do a comparison themselves. That might solve all of this, or at least help.

If your going to continue auto-cross racing I would definately keep the modified ECU. You stated that it had more low end torque and not much top end. That's perfect for auto-cross racing since you realy don't use 4th and 5th gear. All of the driving at those type of events only use gears 1-3.

eslai · 03-29-2007, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bavarian Motorist

Eslai: Are you kidding? I've spent months and months trying to find a single product that guaranteed themselves so I would not have to waste $$.

I don't know if you remember when I joined but that was the first thing I asked about; Mods.

Yeah, and even then we all said the same thing--no such thing as a cheap, worthwhile power mod.

Bavarian Motorist · 03-29-2007, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by eslai

Yeah, and even then we all said the same thing--no such thing as a cheap, worthwhile power mod.

Don't take this offensively, but I found many of your (not you in particular) definitions of "worthwhile" to be strange. Many of you believe that $1000 for 10hp is a rip-off, whereas I would jump all over something like that.

Which is why I didn't take many of you seriously and still don't sometimes, because it seems as if a mod doesn't yield substantial gains, you (again, not you in particular) deem it not worthwhile.

Not that some mods aren't total crap because I know many are, but you get my point. It's a difference in opinion.